2022 Official Chargers Season Discussion

[Boltjolt]

Examples?

TT is more respected by his peers than the Charger fan base why is that? There are still plenty out there that still believe we are one of the most talented rosters. Our O line looked great till the injuries piled up. I will say right now the O line will be one of the best in the league next year.

Chefs got lucky and hit pay dirt with Pacheco. They did not get faster at WR. S.F. Ummm McCaffrey was HUGE. They lucked out with Mr. Irrelevant. They also have Aiyuk and Deebo. I have been begging for speed for since seeing JH's arm. We take speed we would be ultra thin at O line.

Injuries and bad coaching are more of a culprit than TT. TT didn't blow the biggest lead in Charger history. Again listen. BEST OFF SEASON in Charger history. That is not even close to debatable.

Do you give TT credit for finding Ek? He did everything that Staley asked of him this last off season. I think TT's hate is unwarranted. I haven't seen any bone headed moves like other franchises.

Zack Wilson #1 pick?
Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson?
Clelin Ferrell #4 overall?
You mentioned S.F.. How about their pick of Solomon Thomas over T.J Watt?
Lastly, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold over Josh Allen...

Those are all recent stupid draft decisions.

I just hope we get an OC that can tap into JH's godlike arm and design and offense for it.

Agree, but this place thinks only TT misses on picks.

55% of first round picks are busts!

I don't mind Telescos drafting, it's his no trades and not being good at getting extra picks I don't like.

I'm not one of those to sign every player that gets cut like some on here but I do think there's one or two that can help us when we are depleted at WR.

Make a trade for a low pick or something.

[CivilBolt]

No need for speed when yer OC is dialing up mostly 5-10-yd routes...now that Lombo is gone, let's see if anything changes...

I feel you. I miss the Steichen version of Herbert.

[ChargersPowderBlue]

You call out TT but he had the biggest FA offseason in Chargers history. That is the very reason why we are not in a good cap space situation currently.

The FA signings were Staley's, he's the one who is hands-on with them. But Telesco does back his goals and vision for the team and roster.

[sonorajim]

The FA signings were Staley's, he's the one who is hands-on with them. But Telesco does back his goals and vision for the team and roster.

Guaranteed cap was in the discussion when we signed them. Telesco & McGuire did the contracts and will dial in '23. How they'll exercise their options? TBD. Again Staley will be in the conversation. TT, McG, some players and their agents will define what is possible.

[Lefty2SLO]

Agree, but this place thinks only TT misses on picks.

55% of first round picks are busts!

I don't mind Telescopes drafting, it's his no trades and not being good at getting extra picks I don't like.

I'm not one of those to sign every player that gets cut like some on here but I do think there's one or two that can help us when we are depleted at WR.

Make a trade for a low pick or something.

IMO Telesco is #3 in the long term crap responsibility matrix;

1. Ownership
2. Coaching
3. GM
4. Players

I think he's done an adequate job, particularly these last 3 years or so, and he did exceptionally as well last offseason in FA; Callahan, Van Noy, Mack, JC. It's too bad Jackson did not work out, but I don't put that on Telesco - we ALL thought it was a great move. I'm OK keeping him on as long as he continues as he has lately.

Gonna be some tough decisions in FA this year though. Staley's 'culture' comments will be put to the test - it will be interesting (and enlightening) to see if our FA's are willing to take team friendly deals. For instance; Bryce Callahan will be in demand after a very good year (and staying mostly healthy) - will he stay with this shit show (with a team friendly contract) or will he move on to a real franchise that has a chance to compete?

I'm not sure BS has thought through the impact of putting himself in the position of being the joke of the NFL. Players do talk to one another.

[SuperCharged]

The FA signings were Staley's, he's the one who is hands-on with them. But Telesco does back his goals and vision for the team and roster.

Actually no. Staley is the HC not the GM. TT and Staley collaborated no doubt. But the negotiation and transaction ultimately is up to the GM not the HC.

HC has coaching personnel under him. They will help him with game planning roster depth chart. Player evaluations. etc etc

GM has business people helping him with Cap and Cap forecasting. Scouts for FA and Drafting.

Again the final decision comes down to TT not Staley.

[Bolt4Knob]

Agree, but this place thinks only TT misses on picks.

55% of first round picks are busts!

I don't mind Telescopes drafting, it's his no trades and not being good at getting extra picks I don't like.

I'm not one of those to sign every player that gets cut like some on here but I do think there's one or two that can help us when we are depleted at WR.

Make a trade for a low pick or something.

All I do is look at his record
three head coaches
three playoffs - all wild card
zero divisions
under .500 overall

Its not about picking a bad pick here or there - its about the entire body of work. And its below average. When they fired Lynn, that was the right time to fire Telesco

That said - he has a draft coming up and I hope he hits it out of the park and does such a good job this year - he gets extended after the 2023 season. I hope he builds a roster that wins the AFCW. I want the guy to succeed

[SuperCharged]

Agree, but this place thinks only TT misses on picks.

55% of first round picks are busts!

I don't mind Telescopes drafting, it's his no trades and not being good at getting extra picks I don't like.

I'm not one of those to sign every player that gets cut like some on here but I do think there's one or two that can help us when we are depleted at WR.

Make a trade for a low pick or something.

But the thing is putting yourself/team in that situation has a feel of desperation. That reverberates throughout the locker room for one and for 2 the other side of the trade they know your are desperate. They are the ones that set the terms of a trade and it will not favor the team needing a trade. All Trades are usually not cap friendly. The ONLY reason why we had FA party last offseason is we had the Cap space due to not making trades.

Anyone that thinks TT misses on picks please post them here, then post a comparison to other teams hit or miss ratio. Every GM has busts. That is just the way the NFL is. We are hyper-focused on our own GM but do these TT hating fans really take a look at the comparables between GM's?

[cmplxgal]

[Bolt4Knob]

But the thing is putting yourself/team in that situation has a feel of desperation. That reverberates throughout the locker room for one and for 2 the other side of the trade they know your are desperate. They are the ones that set the terms of a trade and it will not favor the team needing a trade. All Trades are usually not cap friendly. The ONLY reason why we had FA party last offseason is we had the Cap space due to not making trades.

Anyone that thinks TT misses on picks please post them here, then post a comparison to other teams hit or miss ratio. Every GM has busts. That is just the way the NFL is. We are hyper-focused on our own GM but do these TT hating fans really take a look at the comparables between GM's?

Look at the records of the Chiefs and Chargers since Andy went to KC and Telesco went to the Chargers. The Chiefs are better
look at the sTeelers with TOmlin - never a season under .500
look at the RAvens with Newsome to DeCosta with harbaugh
I don't want to comapre Telesco to Steve Keim as Steve Keim is not good.
Hell the combo in Seattle of John Scheider and Pete Carroll - pretty damn good


Telesco doesn't deserve a pass -he is part of the problem. His drafting in rounds 3-5 is pathetic,
He has traded up four times- do not recall trying to get more picks by trading back - and those four trades ups - not very good. Te'O, Attauocho, Gordon and Murray

This isn't about a bust pick here, a bust pick there. Its about the record - thats all that matters. Look at the record. Its below average.

[Lefty2SLO]

Look at the records of the Chiefs and Chargers since Andy went to KC and Telesco went to the Chargers. The Chiefs are better
look at the sTeelers with TOmlin - never a season under .500
look at the RAvens with Newsome to DeCosta with harbaugh
I don't want to comapre Telesco to Steve Keim as Steve Keim is not good.
Hell the combo in Seattle of John Scheider and Pete Carroll - pretty damn good


Telesco doesn't deserve a pass -he is part of the problem. His drafting in rounds 3-5 is pathetic,
He has traded up four times- do not recall trying to get more picks by trading back - and those four trades ups - not very good. Te'O, Attauocho, Gordon and Murray

This isn't about a bust pick here, a bust pick there. Its about the record - thats all that matters. Look at the record. Its below average.

You know the record is not ALL on TT. Be careful what you wish for, he's been a B- to C+ GM. That's better than 1/2 the league. With the way Ownership handles business frankly I'm scared to give them the opportunity to replace him with someone worse . . . . which I'm sure they would. Better the devil you know . . . . .

[CivilBolt]

Chump change. Sadly he’ll probably get less holding calls because of this.