2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

[sonorajim]

Allen represents a $21M cap hit. I'm betting he's on the team come September, but not at that salary. In 2024 he's gone. Which means we would do well to start
looking for a replacement now rather than later. I'm sorry to say Palmer isn't it. He makes for a decent backup, but he's not what we need. MW just signed a
big contract last year. So he's got a ways to go. Worried about his propensity to get hurt.

I get the cap. KA was a 3rd. I have no issue with a 3rd rd WR in 2023.
Building for a SB run is tough. We need to take a top 10 O, D & STs into Jan 2024.
Run defense & run offense were 2022's greatest statistical issues. We need to be around avg or better in both. RB, TE, OL - DL, LB are the obvious positions we might take early. Bijan / Kincaid, LB Sanders are my guys.

[Boltnut]

^^^I don’t know what to tell ya if you think we just need “depth” at RB. Smh

And I don't know what to tell you if you believe a 1st round RB is taking you to the Super Bowl.
I see some 1st round WR's, QB's, OT's, DE's, DT's on all of these remaining teams. Not a whole lot of 1st round RB's and TE's...

The 1 first-round RB I find (McCaffrey) is in no way the key to the 49ers success. Hint: It's the defense and the OL/DL.

If the Chargers can get someone to improve the OL's effectiveness... any one of our current 3 RB's can thrive.
The talent is there (both OL and RB). We need a better conductor.
Najee Harris is on line 2... he wants to know what went wrong with McCaffrey extension...

[Boltnut]

I disagree about needs. Look today. Kelce, Kittle, Chase, Higgins, Aiyuk, Deebo, DAvante Smith, AJ Brown. Hell McCaffrey to a degree

Those players are difference makes in the passing game. The Chargers do not have that player that can do something at the highest level

For me, the Chargers need two new WRs. Even if they keep Allen - this is his last year in all likelihood. They need speed and explosive players

You guys understand that Herbert has finished within the Top-2 passing yards these last 2 seasons, right?
I think you guys are vastly under-estimating the WR's.
To review: KA is one of the best route runners in the NFL. I think it was BoltJolt that extrapolated this year's production out to 124 receptions.
I'm not sure there is a better contested ball-catcher than Mike Williams... At times he's under-used. Probably because Allen gets open in 0.4 seconds... and gets first-feed...?
Ekeler has 180 receptions over the last 2 years. He's also scored 38 total TD's in that timespan.
Can any other RB claim either one of those marks...?
We're going to the Super Bowl by taking the ball out of his hands...?

[richpjr]

You guys understand that Herbert has finished within the Top-2 passing yards these last 2 seasons, right?
I think you guys are vastly under-estimating the WR's.
To review: KA is one of the best route runners in the NFL. I think it was BoltJolt that extrapolated this year's production out to 124 receptions.
I'm not sure there is a better contested ball-catcher than Mike Williams... At times he's under-used. Probably because Allen gets open in 0.4 seconds... and gets first-feed...?
Ekeler has 180 receptions over the last 2 years. He's also scored 38 total TD's in that timespan.
Can any other RB claim either one of those marks...?
We're going to the Super Bowl by taking the ball out of his hands...?

I think it is somewhere in between. Allen is probably the best route runner in the league, but is almost always immediately tacked after very catch. Zero threat of YAC from him because of his lack of speed and open field wiggle. But if you need a first down, he is ultra reliable. Williams is great at those downfield spectacular contested catches, but is also not much of a threat for a YAC guy. Nobody on the team is a threat to take it to the house, aside from Ekeler.

[blueman]

You guys understand that Herbert has finished within the Top-2 passing yards these last 2 seasons, right?
I think you guys are vastly under-estimating the WR's.
To review: KA is one of the best route runners in the NFL. I think it was BoltJolt that extrapolated this year's production out to 124 receptions.
I'm not sure there is a better contested ball-catcher than Mike Williams... At times he's under-used. Probably because Allen gets open in 0.4 seconds... and gets first-feed...?
Ekeler has 180 receptions over the last 2 years. He's also scored 38 total TD's in that timespan.
Can any other RB claim either one of those marks...?
We're going to the Super Bowl by taking the ball out of his hands...?

You make it sound like we ran the score up on everybody…

[21&500]

Passing yards mean nothing if we can't score points or if we can get crucial yards/first downs.

[charger1_sj]

You guys understand that Herbert has finished within the Top-2 passing yards these last 2 seasons, right?
I think you guys are vastly under-estimating the WR's.
To review: KA is one of the best route runners in the NFL. I think it was BoltJolt that extrapolated this year's production out to 124 receptions.
I'm not sure there is a better contested ball-catcher than Mike Williams... At times he's under-used. Probably because Allen gets open in 0.4 seconds... and gets first-feed...?
Ekeler has 180 receptions over the last 2 years. He's also scored 38 total TD's in that timespan.
Can any other RB claim either one of those marks...?
We're going to the Super Bowl by taking the ball out of his hands...?

I'm sorry to tell you that 5-6 yards per catch isn't going to cut it.

[jamrock]

And I don't know what to tell you if you believe a 1st round RB is taking you to the Super Bowl.
I see some 1st round WR's, QB's, OT's, DE's, DT's on all of these remaining teams. Not a whole lot of 1st round RB's and TE's...

The 1 first-round RB I find (McCaffrey) is in no way the key to the 49ers success. Hint: It's the defense and the OL/DL.

If the Chargers can get someone to improve the OL's effectiveness... any one of our current 3 RB's can thrive.
The talent is there (both OL and RB). We need a better conductor.
Najee Harris is on line 2... he wants to know what went wrong with McCaffrey extension...

Lol, you realize that we already have a first round qb, wr, de, oT, OG……

[Bolt4Knob]

I think it is somewhere in between. Allen is probably the best route runner in the league, but is almost always immediately tacked after very catch. Zero threat of YAC from him because of his lack of speed and open field wiggle. But if you need a first down, he is ultra reliable. Williams is great at those downfield spectacular contested catches, but is also not much of a threat for a YAC guy. Nobody on the team is a threat to take it to the house, aside from Ekeler.

Thank you!

If I am the Chargers and Allen would be willing to take a pay cut - fine

I am just not kicking 15m of cap space for a guy they are probably going to release in a year. That is bad cap management. That is being sentimental

And right now - he is like you said - he is more of a 3rd down WR. He is not a true #1 WR. The Chargers need a #1 WR

[Boltnut]

I'm sorry to tell you that 5-6 yards per catch isn't going to cut it.

Add 5 and 6 together... tell me what you have...
Last year, MW had more 40+ receptions than anybody.

[Boltnut]

Lol, you realize that we already have a first round qb, wr, de, oT, OG……

Yup. Sounds like it's time to draft an OT/ CB in the 1st.
Along with 1st round QB's, OT's, DE's, and WR's, you'll find a lot of 1st round CB's on good teams. Some teams even get 2 first-round tackles (gasp)...

[Boltnut]

Passing yards mean nothing if we can't score points or if we can get crucial yards/first downs.

2 words... Run, Game.