Former OC Kellen Moore - Discussion

[Lefty2SLO]

I’m excited about Moore and enjoy all of these videos. But I’m reminded they are just like draft pick highlight reels, there are a lot of plays not in the tape. These videos give the false impression that every play Moore calls is a genius strip-down master class out-coaching of the defense. Dallas didn’t score or get 1D every play, after all.

Don’t expect every play to be huge. Defense are professional coaches and players too, they get it right sometimes. And sometimes plays are run early in games knowing they won’t be huge gains just to set up a later play if needed

Yep . . . . . . I'd be willing to bet that a tape such as this showing successful plays by Lombardi could easily be put together (if you looked hard enough). Still think Moore's an improvement though . . . . . . . . we'll see soon

[Bolt4Knob]

Yep . . . . . . I'd be willing to bet that a tape such as this showing successful plays by Lombardi could easily be put together (if you looked hard enough). Still think Moore's an improvement though . . . . . . . . we'll see soon

Depending on field position of course - but all things equal - lets just hope the first play call of the season is not an inside run. Lets be a little more creative and bold than that.

[Lefty2SLO]

Depending on field position of course - but all things equal - lets just hope the first play call of the season is not an inside run. Lets be a little more creative and bold than that.

Setting the bar pretty low aren't you? I'm expecting a fake bubble screen to DD and a bomb to QJ!!

[Bolt4Knob]

Setting the bar pretty low aren't you? I'm expecting a fake bubble screen to DD and a bomb to QJ!!

The Lombardi syndrome

I like your idea of a play call

[Lefty2SLO]

The Lombardi syndrome

I like your idea of a play call

Yeah - I think we're all suffering from some level of this . . . . . . . .

[DerwinBosa]

This is from an article in The Athletic on new play callers. You need to subscribe to The Athletic to read the whole article :


L.A. Chargers: Kellen Moore

How will the former Cowboys coordinator help Justin Herbert reach a new level?

Herbert, the Chargers’ prized quarterback, took a step backward in 2022 after two seasons of growth, and that’s one reason why Brandon Staley fired Joe Lombardi and hired Moore. Moore left Dallas after banging heads repeatedly with McCarthy, but he and Staley share similar philosophies as a pair of young former quarterbacks-turned-coaches.

Staley wants to take better advantage of Herbert’s strong arm and deliver a more potent vertical attack after the Chargers tended to dink and dunk their way downfield, ranking among the worst in air yardage in 2022. Moore is a fan of the big-play passing attack approach.

Moore has said his goal is to help Herbert build on the successes of his first two NFL seasons. The work has begun to help blend the best parts of the Chargers’ previous offense with the best elements of Moore’s.

I always thought Moore was Jerry Jones' guy (for good reason), and Mike McCarthy didn't want him there (out of jealousy), so I wasn't surprised to read that Moore and McCarthy didn't get along. McCarthy's getting what he wants now, so we'll see who does better. The game against the Cowboys is more interesting than it already would have been.

Can McCarthy lead a more effective offense and help Dak Prescott get his groove back?

McCarthy threw Kellen Moore under the bus after the Cowboys fired the former offensive coordinator, saying that Moore’s obsession with scoring points (you do have to score to win, no?) was why the Cowboys lacked balance and why their defense was never rested.

The head coach vowed to run an offense that relies heavily on a physical ground game, saying that would help cut down on Prescott’s career-high 15 interceptions. McCarthy also said he’ll run a more simplistic offense, which he believes will make life easier for Prescott and his teammates.

A lot of big talk. But is it just that? Let’s not forget, McCarthy’s offenses late in his tenure in Green Bay were criticized by Aaron Rodgers and others for being stale and unimaginative.

[richpjr]

I find that without the context that Herbert had busted ribs, a torn labrum and a WR wiped out by injury as the context for his ""step backwards" last year really kind of annoying. He still finished second in the league in passing yardage and 8th in TDs. While I am glad Lombardi is gone and think Moore will take him to MVP consideration, context is important. You know that Moore is really eager to prove McCarthy wrong and he has a better QB to do it.

[CivilBolt]

I find that without the context that Herbert had busted ribs, a torn labrum and a WR wiped out by injury as the context for his ""step backwards" last year really kind of annoying. He still finished second in the league in passing yardage and 8th in TDs. While I am glad Lombardi is gone and think Moore will take him to MVP consideration, context is important. You know that Moore is really eager to prove McCarthy wrong and he has a better QB to do it.

He also didn’t have Slater for much of the year. I’m excited to see how this O will do with both starting bookend tackles and plethora of WRs.

[Boltjolt]

I find that without the context that Herbert had busted ribs, a torn labrum and a WR wiped out by injury as the context for his ""step backwards" last year really kind of annoying. He still finished second in the league in passing yardage and 8th in TDs. While I am glad Lombardi is gone and think Moore will take him to MVP consideration, context is important. You know that Moore is really eager to prove McCarthy wrong and he has a better QB to do it.

I agree, no idea why writers say that if they know he played all year with broken rib cartilage. I guess it's like most fans who haven't ever had a injury and just can't relate but ribs,.....that's a big one to overcome and he did it best he could and still had a better season than many other QBs..

[sonorajim]

Yep . . . . . . I'd be willing to bet that a tape such as this showing successful plays by Lombardi could easily be put together (if you looked hard enough). Still think Moore's an improvement though . . . . . . . . we'll see soon

2022 run blocking? Maybe if we cherry picked.
Season avg looked a lot different. Dal #9, LAC #30 run production.

[dmac_bolt]

Yep . . . . . . I'd be willing to bet that a tape such as this showing successful plays by Lombardi could easily be put together (if you looked hard enough). Still think Moore's an improvement though . . . . . . . . we'll see soon

Yup. Herbie had 4700 yards passing, Ekeler averaged 4.5+ ypc. There’s plenty of good plays in an 18 game season to fab up a faux highlight reel.

[TexanBeerlover]

The Athletic just released (Mike Jones) article covering the new OC’s or play callers for 15 NFL teams.

L.A. Chargers: Kellen Moore

How will the former Cowboys coordinator help Justin Herbert reach a new level?

Herbert, the Chargers’ prized quarterback, took a step backward in 2022 after two seasons of growth, and that’s one reason why Brandon Staley fired Joe Lombardi and hired Moore. Moore left Dallas after banging heads repeatedly with McCarthy, but he and Staley share similar philosophies as a pair of young former quarterbacks-turned-coaches.

Staley wants to take better advantage of Herbert’s strong arm and deliver a more potent vertical attack after the Chargers tended to dink and dunk their way downfield, ranking among the worst in air yardage in 2022. Moore is a fan of the big-play passing attack approach.

Moore has said his goal is to help Herbert build on the successes of his first two NFL seasons. The work has begun to help blend the best parts of the Chargers’ previous offense with the best elements of Moore’s.