Thoughts On Cutting Keenan Allen?

[blueman]

Whether Allen stays or not, we need another receiver. It could be a 1st round TE or 1st/2nd round WR. But the need is there. When one of Allen/MW were out
our passing game went down the tubes. Herbert can use more weapons in the passing game as well as a decent run game. 5 ypc to Eckler isn't going to cut it.

Same page with that, bring on the new WR blood - but keep Allen, somehow.

[wu-dai clan]

It is a copycat league.
However, how much should we mimic other successful operations?
The Tyreek trade was outlier.

[Bolt4Knob]

Flash forward to us ditching Allen, making the playoffs but missing his production next year. Unless we draft WR high and get lucky that we pick an immediate hit.

This is the flip side. Telesco has not shown a consistently ability to identify talent

[beachcomber]

Keenan Allen Photo by Matthew Stockman/Getty Images

Keenan Allen is the player that would make the most sense if Dallas were to go after one big-name WR. Let’s start off by making one thing clear: Allen has not lost a step. After five straight Pro Bowl seasons from 2017 to 2021, this season was his first year missing out on that honor.

But the only reason he didn’t make it was due to injury. In 2022, Allen ripped off 75.2 yards per game (his highest since 2017), hauled in 74% of his targets* (highest since 2016), and managed 8.4 yards per target (highest since 2018). Keep in mind he was a Pro Bowler in 2019, 2020, and 2021. And this was the first year in a while he dealt with injuries. From 2017 to 2021, he only missed two games.

(note * what was Mike Williams' catch rate ?? !!)

You might be afraid of Allen’s 2023 cap hit of $19 million this year and $23.1 million next year if they were to trade for him. Don’t be. He only carries a dead cap hit of $9.6 million over the next two years, meaning that if it doesn’t work out, it will not cost Dallas a lot of money. Plus, his contract can be restructured this year to save $4.5 million.

The only real concern with Allen is how he would fit into the offense. Because he does play a similar style at WR as Lamb. However, adding a reliable pass-catcher, who can move the chains on third and intermediate will, at the very least, take the focus off Lamb. With the Cowboys having only one respectable weapon at WR, beggars can’t be choosers, and Allen is still an incredible player.

So, if he hasn’t lost a step, he has stayed relatively healthy in recent seasons, and there is incredible flexibility in his contract, surely, he is impossible to trade for, right? Well, not according to the media in Los Angeles, who reported that Keenan Allen could be cut due to his contract. If the Chargers are serious about cutting him, Dallas needs to pick up the phone and make the call to try and trade for him at a discount before he hits the open market. It is a move that almost makes too much sense.

tell me again why we are so hell bent on moving Keenan ?? !!

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2023/2/13/23590336/3-wide-receivers-cowboys-should-trade-for-keenan-allen-mike-evans-tee-higgins

[beachcomber]

Baltimore has a track record of adding wide receivers who are 30 or older, from Derrick Mason to Anquan Boldin to Steve Smith."

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/deandre-hopkins-keenan-allen-trade-wide-receiver-ravens-cap-cut

[wu-dai clan]

We are overspending on aging big name talent. At this point in time I go into separate meetings with our big name players and ask them what they're willing to do and not do. If they're not willing to restructure I'm OK with cutting or trading anyone. I like to get rid of old growth forest for the young saplings coming thru.

I agree with this take.
We must fearlessly bring on the prime of Justin Herbert.
Fresh, explosive weapons at the smart price point.
An Oline that is good enough.
As much D as we can muster.

A friendly reminder that Phil made
Rivers to Ajirotutu work.

Be bold-that is the only way to do this.
Anything less is clinging to life preservers.

We must help Herb realize his potential moving forward.
Year after year !

[Bolt4Knob]

Agreed.
there is a way to do it, preferably through their agent and privately.
No ill will if X player tells us to kick rocks, they've earned their contract.
But it's time to tighten belts.

Well each contract is different

Bosa has guaranteed money
Allen has 1.5m guaranteed
Mack has none

These are the decisions that need to be made based on how the roster was built

[beachcomber]

....not only a veteran of the league but who some call a top-five receiver in the NFL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-sign-keenan-allen-salary-cap-ceedee-lamb-free-agency-trade-chargers-rumor

[Bolt4Knob]

I agree with this take.
We must fearlessly bring on the prime of Justin Herbert.
Fresh, explosive weapons at the smart price point.
An Oline that is good enough.
As much D as we can muster.

A friendly reminder that Phil made
Rivers to Ajirotutu work.

Be bold-that is the only way to do this.
Anything less is clinging to life preservers.

We must help Herb realize his potential moving forward.
Year after year !

Looking at the chargers cap for the next few years, plus free agents to be this offseason, and Herberts new contract... I think if Allen is back, it will be reduced and not pro-rated forward. Bosa or Mack - have no clue

[Bolt4Knob]

....not only a veteran of the league but who some call a top-five receiver in the NFL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-sign-keenan-allen-salary-cap-ceedee-lamb-free-agency-trade-chargers-rumor

I think Allen will have a market for possible trade

who knows - he might be willing to take a little less cash - lower the cap number as well

[La Costa Boy]

If we cut him KC will sign him just out of spite........OR the Donkeys...........

[beachcomber]

I think Allen will have a market for possible trade

who knows - he might be willing to take a little less cash - lower the cap number as well

don't know the cap/contracts like you do, so have little to say there.... other than if any contract is overvalued, 'tis MW's.

and am sentimental perhaps, as looked over PFF's receiver rankings, which had Keenan @20 overall, one spot behind MW.... which I just don't get.... personally see him as a top ten, and again personally don't see many more than a handful or so of NFL wideouts that I would take over Allen ??

my thought would be to be patient, and to wait 'til a FA or draft eligible receiver came to us, that was a Keenan successor.... def don't see that player in this year's draft, nor in FA.... did see that player in last year's draft, but they were all off the board come 17.... also thought there were a coupla few good ones (in FA) when we decided to sign MW instead.

my lean is toward getting out of MW's contract when it comes up, and to move on from Keenan the offseason that Dean puts the team up for sale, as if I'm Keenan there is no way I take a pay cut.... based on what ?? that someone thinks his play is gonna go off the proverbial cliff next season ??

when did Larry Fitzgerald fall off ?? AJ Green ?? Randy Moss ??

and not to mention drafting Dalton Kincaid seems like a much better receiving option than taking your chances w/this year's receiving crop ??