Thoughts On Cutting Keenan Allen?

[Bolt4Knob]

I know that...but does he want to play for a crappy team and still get paid?

The thing is - the Chargers can push money and Bosa still get paid. Is that the right long term move? Or do you see what value there is for Bosa before making that decision. My guess, the value of Bosa around the league is being reviewed. If nothing comes to fruition for Bosa - they will move money on his deal getting 15m of cap space or so. Or do the same for a few guys like Vato, Ekeler and Linsley

[jubei]

Bite the bullet now so we can learn to adapt without them in the lineup. As far as I'm concerned both of these players owe the chargers a team friendly restructure or i will help them pack their bags.

IMO Bosa moreso.

[Steve]

Running team? No. More balanced? Absolutely, especially after spending the last two first-round picks on Slater and Zion, along with what might be a late-round gem in Salyer. To me it would be not "a good use of resources" to fail to build a running game after using two first-round picks on offensive linemen.

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If we get rid of the team's top receiver, and use the top draft capital on RB ... you are making the team a running team. Not sure why that is hard to understand.

[Steve]

The biggest reason I want the more conservative approach - which is seeing what kind of trade market there is for Bosa and the three options for Allen (Pay cut, if no, trade, if no release) - is because I don't trust Telesco if he is going scorch earth I am going to lose my job so I don't care about cap wise

I can see Telesco being - push the damn money out - I know what i have in Bosa and Allen. As his track record has shown - he is pretty average at drafting players. Andy Reid and Brett Veach figured out solutions to trading Tyreek Hill. Telesco - not sure he has it him so status quo works for him

I just keep looking at the numbers, looking at a team like the Saints and they took their one shot - dial it back. The Chargers can still be competitive without Bosa and Allen next year. Not only competitive - but a playoff team!

With the expanded playoff structure, there is a difference between a one and done type, and a team that legitimately can compete for a title.

Getting rid of Allen and Bosa means we have a solid but unspectacular O that can take what an D gives us, but cannot control the game, and a D that is at best a speed bump.

[richpjr]

Bite the bullet now so we can learn to adapt without them in the lineup. As far as I'm concerned both of these players owe the chargers a team friendly restructure or i will help them pack their bags.

They owe the team nothing, aside from playing to the terms of their contract. Whether the team wants to do that or pay them the guaranteed part and cut them is a different story.

[MagicMamba88]

if they let Keenan Allen go for nothing this will be typical Spanos bs.

they always let players go and never get anything for them in return.

[jamrock]

If we get rid of the team's top receiver, and use the top draft capital on RB ... you are making the team a running team. Not sure why that is hard to understand.

No, come on. Make the team more balanced. with or without Keenan that should be the goal.

[Critty]

If we get rid of the team's top receiver, and use the top draft capital on RB ... you are making the team a running team. Not sure why that is hard to understand.

This does not compute at all.
I guarantee they pass it more than they run next year.
This is Herbert team.
But There is likely going to be a more balance attack because that is what Kellen Moore like to call. And Staley emphasized a better marriage or run and pass.
It's just seems mentally lazy to jump to that conclusion even if they make those roster changes.
They might get label a balanced attacked.
Chargers will Not be a run team like Titans with Herbert at QB. Never going happen. This should be very simple to understand.

[gzubeck]

They owe the team nothing, aside from playing to the terms of their contract. Whether the team wants to do that or pay them the guaranteed part and cut them is a different story.

Chargers then need better contracts....

[RollingThunder]

Such a funny comment.

So if he doesn't pay Bosa or Derwin. TT should let them walk? He would have gotten crucified if that happened. JC Jackson? He was the #1 free agent on all boards. Everyone loved the pick up. We are not fortune tellers like you critty we couldn't have foreseen the injury. I wish you could have told TT ahead of that FA signing. MW? Gross overpayment IMO. But did we have anyone in place to replace him? No.

Your comment has no merit, no real objectivity. All based on hindsight.

To me it's alway better to move on from a player a year early, rather than a year late.

Bosa, MW and Derwin required no power of hindsight, they've been injured in one way or another their entire careers here including all missing most of their rookie years.


I like MW much more than the other two as there is a noticeable drop off when he's out but even so, I was advocating spending that money on Davante Adams last year and it would have been money much better spent in terms of reliability, talent being equal.


Jackson was an ex-patriot, a product of the system and damaged goods even before he got here.

[Boltjolt]

Bosa, MW and Derwin required no power of hindsight, they've been injured in one way or another their entire careers here including all missing most of their rookie years.


I like MW much more than the other two as there is a noticeable drop off when he's out but even so, I was advocating spending that money on Davante Adams last year and it would have been money much better spent in terms of reliability, talent being equal.


Jackson was an ex-patriot, a product of the system and damaged goods even before he got here.

Derwin's rookie year is the only year he didn't miss any games.

It doesn't matter if you wanted to spend that money on Davonte or not, he wanted to play for the Raiders and with Carr.

I've no knowledge of JCJ being injured in NE.

[DerwinBosa]

If we get rid of the team's top receiver, and use the top draft capital on RB ... you are making the team a running team. Not sure why that is hard to understand.

YOU don't understand it, in part, because you overrate Keenan Allen at this point of his career.

If Keenan leaves, the Chargers will find another receiver, just like the Chiefs did after Tyreek Hill went to the Dolphins. Even if this replacement isn't as good as Allen, if Herbert is as great as we think he is he should have no problem still playing at an elite (there's that word again) level without Keenan. Rivers did this in multiple seasons, most notably in 2010 (4,710 yards, 30 touchdowns), when Vincent Jackson missed 11 games because of a holdout and Antonio Gates was out for seven games with an injury.

So let me get his straight: You would get mad if we picked Bijan Robinson or another running back early in the draft and he gained 1,500 yards on the ground?