Ekeler: Negotiated Incentives for 2023 Contract Year

[CivilBolt]

He had a mentor in this situation with mg3. hopefully Ek learned from that previous idiot cuz I've liked Ek from the start.

At least Ek has the stat and consistency. MGIII only had one good season and requested king’s ransom. Yeah, what an idiot

[gzubeck]

Brady--Gronk.
Rodgers--Davante.
Burrow--Chase..
Mahomes--Kelce.
Herbert--Bijan.

We can deal with the scrubbery.
It's over, NFL.

Knowing our luck he's injured by game 3 and out for the rest of the season.

[CivilBolt]

Knowing our luck he's injured by game 3 and out for the rest of the season.

LOL. Game 3 is pushing it. I think last year our starter started going out after game 1.

[charger1_sj]

With Herbert’s contract coming up and all the other big contracts we’re carrying, why not burn future high picks in a trade to grab a guy who can help now? Saves the cost of higher priced salaries down the road. Something to think about.

Because we need help in many areas, including backups. Giving up draft picks to get one guy only works if the guy is a Franchise QB. Take a look at draft trade chart.
Moving from #21 to #5 as some suggest would cost us the whole 2023 draft, all of it. Alternatively the other team (Seattle I think) may want next year 1st in addition to
a player our #21 and some other draft picks. That's a very bad deal for the Chargers.

Moving from #21 to #10 would cost us our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, we'd get back a 6th. Not going to happen.

If we want Bijan we either stay put and hope he falls OR we wait until he falls out of the top 15. Then the compensation to get him may make sense.

Getting Bijan is not going to solve our run problem if the O line blocking isn't improved. If we improve the run blocking somebody like Ekeler is fine.
If the box is stacked and it's a 3rd and 2 or 3 yards there are very few RB that will get the 1st down if the O line doesn't get a push. Running between
the tackles is overrated. That's part of the reason RBs are not valued. Spend the money on the O line, then you can pass or run without an LT back. .

[Boltjolt]

Because we need help in many areas, including backups. Giving up draft picks to get one guy only works if the guy is a Franchise QB. Take a look at draft trade chart.
Moving from #21 to #5 as some suggest would cost us the whole 2023 draft, all of it. Alternatively the other team (Seattle I think) may want next year 1st in addition to
a player our #21 and some other draft picks. That's a very bad deal for the Chargers.

Moving from #21 to #10 would cost us our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, we'd get back a 6th. Not going to happen.

If we want Bijan we either stay put and hope he falls OR we wait until he falls out of the top 15. Then the compensation to get him may make sense.

Getting Bijan is not going to solve our run problem if the O line blocking isn't improved. If we improve the run blocking somebody like Ekeler is fine.
If the box is stacked and it's a 3rd and 2 or 3 yards there are very few RB that will get the 1st down if the O line doesn't get a push. Running between
the tackles is overrated. That's part of the reason RBs are not valued. Spend the money on the O line, then you can pass or run without an LT back. .

OL problems were the depth not the starters.

We didn't have the starters playing together much. Slater missed the last 15 games. Pipkins was playing on a sprained MCL which should of kept him out minimum 4 weeks but he played thru it.
Fieler took a step down.

Zion and Salyer hit the rookie wall last quarter of the season and Lindleyissed some games.

Depth sucked, simple as that. I expect Zion and Salyer to be better prepared for 17 games.

[LarryAW]

He had a mentor in this situation with mg3. hopefully Ek learned from that previous idiot cuz I've liked Ek from the start.

I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Ekeler.

Ekeler, due to the possibility of a career-ending injury, doesn't want a one-year contract. The value he (and his agent) place on him is ludicrous. He isn't worth even more than a Franchise-tagged backs. Like the saying goes: Facts don't care about your feelings.

MY RESPONSE:

I hereby acknowledge that my contract-extension is for three full years for $7M annually. I confirm that I will play a hard as I can until I fulfill my commitment to this team. I confirm that the Chargers aren't obligated to give me a new contract for any reason, just as the Chargers confirm they will fulfill their obligation, regardless of whether I underperform my duties, or unable to perform my duties due to injuries or multiple injuries. Finally, I confirm I will not go public to complain about this contract.

/s/ Hindsight is 20/20
Hindsight is 20/20

[dmac_bolt]

Because we need help in many areas, including backups. Giving up draft picks to get one guy only works if the guy is a Franchise QB. Take a look at draft trade chart.
Moving from #21 to #5 as some suggest would cost us the whole 2023 draft, all of it. Alternatively the other team (Seattle I think) may want next year 1st in addition to
a player our #21 and some other draft picks. That's a very bad deal for the Chargers.

Moving from #21 to #10 would cost us our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, we'd get back a 6th. Not going to happen.

If we want Bijan we either stay put and hope he falls OR we wait until he falls out of the top 15. Then the compensation to get him may make sense.

Getting Bijan is not going to solve our run problem if the O line blocking isn't improved. If we improve the run blocking somebody like Ekeler is fine.
If the box is stacked and it's a 3rd and 2 or 3 yards there are very few RB that will get the 1st down if the O line doesn't get a push. Running between
the tackles is overrated. That's part of the reason RBs are not valued. Spend the money on the O line, then you can pass or run without an LT back. .

Dare to be not just good, but great, my friend! Embrace your Inner Wu!

[electricgold]

Because we need help in many areas, including backups. Giving up draft picks to get one guy only works if the guy is a Franchise QB. Take a look at draft trade chart.
Moving from #21 to #5 as some suggest would cost us the whole 2023 draft, all of it. Alternatively the other team (Seattle I think) may want next year 1st in addition to
a player our #21 and some other draft picks. That's a very bad deal for the Chargers.

Moving from #21 to #10 would cost us our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, we'd get back a 6th. Not going to happen.

If we want Bijan we either stay put and hope he falls OR we wait until he falls out of the top 15. Then the compensation to get him may make sense.

Getting Bijan is not going to solve our run problem if the O line blocking isn't improved. If we improve the run blocking somebody like Ekeler is fine.
If the box is stacked and it's a 3rd and 2 or 3 yards there are very few RB that will get the 1st down if the O line doesn't get a push. Running between
the tackles is overrated. That's part of the reason RBs are not valued. Spend the money on the O line, then you can pass or run without an LT back. .

I would trade down to pick up another 3rd round pick because we have a lot of needs thanks to TT's vision for the team. People can say we just made the playoffs and my response to that is yeah but we only had one win all season to a team with a winning record (and probably would have lost that game had it not been for Hill's injury). This season we have 4 games against Andy Reid and Payton, we'll see how many wins we pull out of that. I'm expecting there could be a chance Moore is our head coach by seasons end. Ekeler sort of lost me when he said I want to be paid like a top WR in the league but by the way I need another RB to help take the work load off of me?

[sonorajim]

Because we need help in many areas, including backups. Giving up draft picks to get one guy only works if the guy is a Franchise QB. Take a look at draft trade chart.
Moving from #21 to #5 as some suggest would cost us the whole 2023 draft, all of it. Alternatively the other team (Seattle I think) may want next year 1st in addition to
a player our #21 and some other draft picks. That's a very bad deal for the Chargers.

Moving from #21 to #10 would cost us our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, we'd get back a 6th. Not going to happen.

If we want Bijan we either stay put and hope he falls OR we wait until he falls out of the top 15. Then the compensation to get him may make sense.

Getting Bijan is not going to solve our run problem if the O line blocking isn't improved. If we improve the run blocking somebody like Ekeler is fine.
If the box is stacked and it's a 3rd and 2 or 3 yards there are very few RB that will get the 1st down if the O line doesn't get a push. Running between
the tackles is overrated. That's part of the reason RBs are not valued. Spend the money on the O line, then you can pass or run without an LT back. .

I'd like to upgrade starter at TE, penetrating DL, FS, slot CB. Depth at C, WR, LB. I don't like to trade up or down at 21. Too much quality to walk away from. The 4 QBs, Bijan will push down the top 4 Edge, 3 ea. OT, DB, TE we could use.

[blueman]

OL problems were the depth not the starters.

We didn't have the starters playing together much. Slater missed the last 15 games. Pipkins was playing on a sprained MCL which should of kept him out minimum 4 weeks but he played thru it.
Fieler took a step down.

Zion and Salyer hit the rookie wall last quarter of the season and Lindleyissed some games.

Depth sucked, simple as that. I expect Zion and Salyer to be better prepared for 17 games.

Okay - depth is found later in the draft, right? So send them three first round picks, whatever.

[charger1_sj]

OL problems were the depth not the starters.

We didn't have the starters playing together much. Slater missed the last 15 games. Pipkins was playing on a sprained MCL which should of kept him out minimum 4 weeks but he played thru it.
Fieler took a step down.

Zion and Salyer hit the rookie wall last quarter of the season and Lindleyissed some games.

Depth sucked, simple as that. I expect Zion and Salyer to be better prepared for 17 games.

And what if the injury bug hits the O line this year? It's not like we haven't seen this happen before. Injuries to key players are killing us. But it's part of the game.
That's what backups are there for. But I agree a little continuity goes a long way. If our starters are able to play a full season our O line situation will probably
look a whole lot better.

[charger1_sj]

Dare to be not just good, but great, my friend! Embrace your Inner Wu!

Didn't we try that with MG and Mathews? 1st round RBs. How did that turn out?