Elijah Dotson Makes the Initial 53 (Was Poll)

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  • OG619FrightninLightnin
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    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

    Yep...we need to bring in Jammer to teach Dotson how to NOT turn his head...
    I see what you did there..

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    • OG619FrightninLightnin
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      Originally posted by jamrock View Post
      Why is everyone assuming that Moore chose the roster in Dallas? It’s much more likely that McCarthy made those decisions
      Or the GM

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      • Topcat
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        Originally posted by jamrock View Post
        Why is everyone assuming that Moore chose the roster in Dallas? It’s much more likely that McCarthy made those decisions
        The GM and the HC usually have the most clout, but the OC, DC and head of scouting can also have a lot of influence, depending on the team. Since Staley came aboard, I've seen a general improvement in drafting, which makes me think TT was the main dude before, but Staley and staff seem to have reduced some of TT's classic bust or semi-bust types of picks...
        (Like an automatic Golden Domer just about every draft...)

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        • Fouts2herbert
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          Originally posted by Caslon View Post
          I for one will wait 2 more preseason games before getting too excited.
          I'm sure you'll come around at some point, something about Dotson tells me it won't take long to convince you, then you'll be coming on here telling everyone how you saw the talent right off
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          • Craig440
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            Originally posted by OG619FrightninLightnin View Post

            I see what you did there..
            he was responding to my post. Made me laugh. It was very clever i thought.

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            • Topcat
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              Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

              I'm sure you'll come around at some point, something about Dotson tells me it won't take long to convince you, then you'll be coming on here telling everyone how you saw the talent right off
              In statistics and sociology, there are several recognized groups when it comes to accepting paradigm-shifting change: Innovators, Early Adopters, Early Majority, Late Majority and the Laggards. The Innovators are those who recognize that change is coming (whether a new product, the coming collapse of the economy, or the emergence of a talented running back). The Innovators frequently face criticism from the late majority, and especially, from the laggards, who refuse to pay attention to the early red flags (if the change is a negative one); or the early positive signs (if the change is a positive one).

              Those of us who recognize the talent of someone like Dotson and are in favor of him being retained on the final 53, and becoming a key part of our RB committee, are Innovators. IF Dot continues to produce at the level I feel he can, I believe we will be joined by more and more Early Adopters. The Big Scary Chasm in question in the chart below represents the final day of cuts; Dot either makes the final 53 or not. I believe he will, as long as he continues to play at or close to the level he has shown in preseason game 1.

              He doesn't even need to score another 40-yd TD. Even if he just breaks off several more runs of 5-20 yds., with a good ypc average, I think he sticks to the team. After the Big Scary Chasm is overcome, we will see him win over more of the Early Majority. As Dot continues to produce during the season, the Late Majority will finally climb aboard. Some members of the Late Majority and Laggards, in order to cover up their embarrassment at failing to recognize change earlier on, may engage in revisionism, in which they revise or edit previous statements or posts, or write new posts, claiming they were Innovators or Early Adopters from the start. This is well illustrated in George Orwell's Animal Farm, when the Pigs revise the original 7 Commandments.

              Getting back to football, though, regarding the Laggards, there will always be a few of these who, even late in the season, will be dismissing Dotson as a fluke. We shall see. Are you an Innovator or a Laggard? Or somewhere in between? And there you have it, a statistical and sociological analysis meets pro football.


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              • Fouts2herbert
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                Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                In statistics and sociology, there are several recognized groups when it comes to accepting paradigm-shifting change: Innovators, Early Adopters, Early Majority, Late Majority and the Laggards. The Innovators are those who recognize that change is coming (whether a new product, the coming collapse of the economy, or the emergence of a talented running back). The Innovators frequently face criticism from the late majority, and especially, from the laggards, who refuse to pay attention to the early red flags (if the change is a negative one); or the early positive signs (if the change is a positive one).

                Those of us who recognize the talent of someone like Dotson and are in favor of him being retained on the final 53, and becoming a key part of our RB committee, are Innovators. IF Dot continues to produce at the level I feel he can, I believe we will be joined by more and more Early Adopters. The Big Scary Chasm in question in the chart below represents the final day of cuts; Dot either makes the final 53 or not. I believe he will, as long as he continues to play at or close to the level he has shown in preseason game 1.

                He doesn't even need to score another 40-yd TD. Even if he just breaks off several more runs of 5-20 yds., with a good ypc average, I think he sticks to the team. After the Big Scary Chasm is overcome, we will see him win over more of the Early Majority. As Dot continues to produce during the season, the Late Majority will finally climb aboard. Some members of the Late Majority and Laggards, in order to cover up their embarrassment at failing to recognize change earlier on, may engage in revisionism, in which they revise or edit previous statements or posts, or write new posts, claiming they were Innovators or Early Adopters from the start. This is well illustrated in George Orwell's Animal Farm, when the Pigs revise the original 7 Commandments.

                Getting back to football, though, regarding the Laggards, there will always be a few of these who, even late in the season, will be dismissing Dotson as a fluke. We shall see. Are you an Innovator or a Laggard? Or somewhere in between? And there you have it, a statistical and sociological analysis meets pro football.


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                LMAO!...No innovator here, I just saw from watching the game that the kid has an NFL caliber burst and he maintains his balance at high velocity while turning the corner, not all running backs can do that...that spin inside the hole to gain four more yards on that 7 yard run is the kind of stuff I love to see, one of my favorite runs LT ever had only went for like 6 yards but it should've been 4-5 yard loss, what it took for him not to lose those 5 yards let alone gain 6 was like wow, a human being is not supposed to be able to do that type of shit...you guys remember last year when ekeler was called down just barely on a long TD run? he barely touched the ground with his forearm but he spun on top of someone at speed like 8 inches off the ground and landed on his fucking feet! The play was still good for a first down I think but the TD was taken away, but just witnessing someone even do something acrobatic like that is entertaining as hell...In my mind I can still see Gary Anderson defy gravity and fly into the end zone from a ridiculous distance and doing that crazy as flip onto his back at the end then pop up on his feet...it's still one of the most memorable things I've ever witnessed someone do on a football field...

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                • Topcat
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                  Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                  LMAO!...No innovator here, I just saw from watching the game that the kid has an NFL caliber burst and he maintains his balance at high velocity while turning the corner, not all running backs can do that...that spin inside the hole to gain four more yards on that 7 yard run is the kind of stuff I love to see, one of my favorite runs LT ever had only went for like 6 yards but it should've been 4-5 yard loss, what it took for him not to lose those 5 yards let alone gain 6 was like wow, a human being is not supposed to be able to do that type of shit...you guys remember last year when ekeler was called down just barely on a long TD run? he barely touched the ground with his forearm but he spun on top of someone at speed like 8 inches off the ground and landed on his fucking feet! The play was still good for a first down I think but the TD was taken away, but just witnessing someone even do something acrobatic like that is entertaining as hell...In my mind I can still see Gary Anderson defy gravity and fly into the end zone from a ridiculous distance and doing that crazy as flip onto his back at the end then pop up on his feet...it's still one of the most memorable things I've ever witnessed someone do on a football field...
                  Excellent analysis there, Fouts...whether you wish to admit it or not, I consider you a de facto Innovator...as for the rest of you, come on in, the Dot water's fine!

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                  • Whydachargers?
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                    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                    In statistics and sociology, there are several recognized groups when it comes to accepting paradigm-shifting change: Innovators, Early Adopters, Early Majority, Late Majority and the Laggards. The Innovators are those who recognize that change is coming (whether a new product, the coming collapse of the economy, or the emergence of a talented running back). The Innovators frequently face criticism from the late majority, and especially, from the laggards, who refuse to pay attention to the early red flags (if the change is a negative one); or the early positive signs (if the change is a positive one).

                    Those of us who recognize the talent of someone like Dotson and are in favor of him being retained on the final 53, and becoming a key part of our RB committee, are Innovators. IF Dot continues to produce at the level I feel he can, I believe we will be joined by more and more Early Adopters. The Big Scary Chasm in question in the chart below represents the final day of cuts; Dot either makes the final 53 or not. I believe he will, as long as he continues to play at or close to the level he has shown in preseason game 1.

                    He doesn't even need to score another 40-yd TD. Even if he just breaks off several more runs of 5-20 yds., with a good ypc average, I think he sticks to the team. After the Big Scary Chasm is overcome, we will see him win over more of the Early Majority. As Dot continues to produce during the season, the Late Majority will finally climb aboard. Some members of the Late Majority and Laggards, in order to cover up their embarrassment at failing to recognize change earlier on, may engage in revisionism, in which they revise or edit previous statements or posts, or write new posts, claiming they were Innovators or Early Adopters from the start. This is well illustrated in George Orwell's Animal Farm, when the Pigs revise the original 7 Commandments.

                    Getting back to football, though, regarding the Laggards, there will always be a few of these who, even late in the season, will be dismissing Dotson as a fluke. We shall see. Are you an Innovator or a Laggard? Or somewhere in between? And there you have it, a statistical and sociological analysis meets pro football.


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                    I took both Sociology (I think it was just a class called Sociology) and Statistics in college but I don't recall those words. You gave me something fun to research though. So thank you!

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                    • WindsorUK
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                      Originally posted by Whydachargers? View Post

                      I took both Sociology (I think it was just a class called Sociology) and Statistics in college but I don't recall those words. You gave me something fun to research though. So thank you!
                      Took Statistics my freshman year at SDSU. What a tough class! All I remember from that( it was over 35 years ago!) is Chebyshevs theorem, where 75% of all data should fall within 2 standard derivations of the mean:whistlin:

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                      • Topcat
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                        Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post

                        Took Statistics my freshman year at SDSU. What a tough class! All I remember from that( it was over 35 years ago!) is Chebyshevs theorem, where 75% of all data should fall within 2 standard derivations of the mean:whistlin:
                        There's a book out called "How to lie with statistics." For example, if the sample size is too small, it won't be statistically significant enough to be valid...therefore the reason why many polls fail to get in right by the end of an election, for example...

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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                          There's a book out called "How to lie with statistics." For example, if the sample size is too small, it won't be statistically significant enough to be valid...therefore the reason why many polls fail to get in right by the end of an election, for example...
                          I was an engineering major, Stats was too easy, it was try hard to not laugh at the liberal arts students level of easy. Econ 101 was even easier- they didn't get past basic algebra. I didnt take accounting - that just numbs the brain
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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