Greg Roman Chargers Offensive Coordinator

[BigBad]

How do you like the mental picture of Brock Bowers being on the receiving end of some of those passes?

I go back and forth with him and Nabers.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Kinda hard to make a case to let MW go. He is such a stud when healthy.

Not really hard at all. He is rarely healthy and for a #8 overall pick he has only two 1000 yard seasons in his 7 year career. The new regime will be production over sentiment. Williams is a pretty obvious cut, no one will even trade for him with his contract.

4 players on this team take up 58% of the cap next year. Something has to give. Someone has to go. Unless you want to be the Saints and have no cap every year because you keep pushing money forward.

So many on here know we are slated to be 55 million over cap with draft picks signed yet still want all of Keenan, Williams, Bosa and Mack back. How is that going to work? What have these guys ever won here and why are they so irreplaceable? IMO 2 of these 4 need to go to provide cap relief.

I would rather have one reset year and get a healthy cap in place and a good plan which involves flexibility for key UFAs in 2025 and beyond. There are many holes on the roster, Harbaugh hype aside we are not winning any titles in 2024. Lets put the team in a position to be serious for many years after that.

[ChargersPowderBlue]

Lets put the team in a position to be serious for many years after that.

Are you going to be in office working with Harbaugh and Hortiz?

BTW, I'm not a fan of the Greg Roman hiring.

[Boltjolt]

If you play a safety or 2 safeties deep nobody is going to complete a long pass. But it will open the middle of the field for guys like Allen and ......Bowers.
Did you watch the SB last night? How many deep balls were caught? What did Kelce do in the 2nd half?

If Bowers is that fast teams will have to cover him with a safety or corner. And good luck with that because he's 6'4". If not then he's going to cause major headaches for defenses.
At any rate he's a guy defenses have to keep an eye on. In other words a difference maker.

1....with a single deep safety. Think there was another one with the safety confused where the ball was and should have made an INT but it w caught but a KC reciever....think it was Hardeman.

[Lefty2SLO]

Not really hard at all. He is rarely healthy and for a #8 overall pick he has only two 1000 yard seasons in his 7 year career. The new regime will be production over sentiment. Williams is a pretty obvious cut, no one will even trade for him with his contract.

4 players on this team take up 58% of the cap next year. Something has to give. Someone has to go. Unless you want to be the Saints and have no cap every year because you keep pushing money forward.

So many on here know we are slated to be 55 million over cap with draft picks signed yet still want all of Keenan, Williams, Bosa and Mack back. How is that going to work? What have these guys ever won here and why are they so irreplaceable? IMO 2 of these 4 need to go to provide cap relief.

I would rather have one reset year and get a healthy cap in place and a good plan which involves flexibility for key UFAs in 2025 and beyond. There are many holes on the roster, Harbaugh hype aside we are not winning any titles in 2024. Lets put the team in a position to be serious for many years after that.

THIS . . . . . . . . . . . Harbaugh and his coaching staff, along with a competent GM, will make us better next year - but IMO our 2024 ceiling is a WC berth, we have too many holes at the moment to do more. I want us to be ready to dominate in 2025 though, so management should be planning accordingly . . . . . .

[AK47]

I go back and forth with him and Nabers.

If Nabers:
Pros: got yourself a solid WR that could lead your team in passing TD's on a cheap rookie deal.
Cons: May be more of a slot WR? Majority of top WRs in TD production are either big WRs or with sub 4.40 speed. Nabers is likely neither.

If Bowers:
Pro: could be central point of your offense. Big play ability. Reliable hands.
Cons: Smaller TE. Is he generational talent to warrant a top 5 pick for TE?

[Velo]

Remember these types of games? We're getting back to this.

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[Bolt4Knob]

Not really hard at all. He is rarely healthy and for a #8 overall pick he has only two 1000 yard seasons in his 7 year career. The new regime will be production over sentiment. Williams is a pretty obvious cut, no one will even trade for him with his contract.

4 players on this team take up 58% of the cap next year. Something has to give. Someone has to go. Unless you want to be the Saints and have no cap every year because you keep pushing money forward.

So many on here know we are slated to be 55 million over cap with draft picks signed yet still want all of Keenan, Williams, Bosa and Mack back. How is that going to work? What have these guys ever won here and why are they so irreplaceable? IMO 2 of these 4 need to go to provide cap relief.

I would rather have one reset year and get a healthy cap in place and a good plan which involves flexibility for key UFAs in 2025 and beyond. There are many holes on the roster, Harbaugh hype aside we are not winning any titles in 2024. Lets put the team in a position to be serious for many years after that.

Preaching to the choir!! Exactly how I feel. The Texans did go from the second pick to 10-7 but not sure that should be the expectation,. My expectation is more the Detroit Lions. They had 3 wins in 2021; started slow and finished strong in 2022 and went to the NFC Title game in 2023 and look solid for a few years. So next year, improve to that 7 or 8 win season but the key is IMPROVE as the season goes on. And be a real contender from 2025-2029.

And be a real contender with like potentially $45-50m of cap space (that figure is after: releaseing MW and EK, trading or releasing Bosa now, Linsley retiring, paying two draft classes, 53 player roster and taking into account they will be signing players that will have cap hits in 2025, players like Allen, Mack and a couple free agents signed this year to multi year deals) - I think the Chargers will have $45-50m of cap space

Or you can push money for Bosa and Willaims another year -- and watch that number go from $45-50 down to the $15-20 while you release them as they missed over half the damn season again. I prefer to have the $50m of cap space approximately next spring at my disposal in true free agency.

[dmac_bolt]

If you play a safety or 2 safeties deep nobody is going to complete a long pass. But it will open the middle of the field for guys like Allen and ......Bowers.
Did you watch the SB last night? How many deep balls were caught? What did Kelce do in the 2nd half?

If Bowers is that fast teams will have to cover him with a safety or corner. And good luck with that because he's 6'4". If not then he's going to cause major headaches for defenses.
At any rate he's a guy defenses have to keep an eye on. In other words a difference maker.

Good points and why Bowers is my Top 3 cluster. What did Kelce do in the SB - he led his team in receptions and receiving yards. 1st qtr, last second, people parsing sub-statistics is a fool's errand. Overall he led his team in receiving. He led all Chiefs receivers for the 2023 regular season as well. oh, and he led all Chiefs receivers in 2022.

But wait - TEs are not a value position ... ?

[dmac_bolt]

Preaching to the choir!! Exactly how I feel. The Texans did go from the second pick to 10-7 but not sure that should be the expectation,. My expectation is more the Detroit Lions. They had 3 wins in 2021; started slow and finished strong in 2022 and went to the NFC Title game in 2023 and look solid for a few years. So next year, improve to that 7 or 8 win season but the key is IMPROVE as the season goes on. And be a real contender from 2025-2029.

And be a real contender with like potentially $45-50m of cap space (that figure is after: releaseing MW and EK, trading or releasing Bosa now, Linsley retiring, paying two draft classes, 53 player roster and taking into account they will be signing players that will have cap hits in 2025, players like Allen, Mack and a couple free agents signed this year to multi year deals) - I think the Chargers will have $45-50m of cap space

Or you can push money for Bosa and Willaims another year -- and watch that number go from $45-50 down to the $15-20 while you release them as they missed over half the damn season again. I prefer to have the $50m of cap space approximately next spring at my disposal in true free agency.

why not - they needed a QB with their first pick, we're already ahead of that game.

[Bolt4Knob]

why not - they needed a QB with their first pick, we're already ahead of that game.

Not saying it can't happen - just saying I probably wouldn't bet money on it happening.

[HerbieParadigm]

Wow, that video of Herbert torching the Steelers. Was Shane the QB Coach then?
2 things that resonate - 1. Herbert throws on 1st down. 2. Herbert decisive running the ball is unsdtoppable.

A balanced offense in today's NFL especially if all Chargers desire a SB which means beating Fat Andy & Chubby Patty: 40-45 passes with 20 runs per game. The runs include Herbert designed runs.