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  • Velo
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    #26101
    Originally posted by Factotum View Post
    Becton was just pure rubbish, garbage, waste or whatever epithet which you wish to hang onto. Zion on the other hand, while excelled at run block, he did quite poorly in pass-pro. How much of that could be attributed to Alt's injury and then being taken out of service in addition to Bozeman not being far behind my descriptives of Becton, remains a mystery to me. I am confident tat the brilliant football minds in the Organization plus copious amount of film can determine the verdict in one for or the other. In my view, ZJ's durability may offset some of his deficiencies if the poor pass-pro is associated with technique (I remain doubtful).
    Zion was/is the only good IOL the Chargers have, I don't think his pass pro was bad, with such turnover on the OL, retaining Zion might be a priority.

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    • Riverwalk
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      #26102
      Originally posted by electricgold View Post

      Do we have two book end OT's or two injury prone OT's?
      I checked a couple of sources and around 15-25 different OT’s went on IR during 2025.

      In 2024, neither Alt or Slater were on IR.

      I think a player that’s “injury prone” is one that neglects conditioning, nutrition, and a healthy lifestyle.

      Alt and Slater seem like the opposite of that. What more can you ask for?

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      • Factotum
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        #26103
        Originally posted by Velo View Post

        Zion was/is the only good IOL the Chargers have, I don't think his pass pro was bad, with such turnover on the OL, retaining Zion might be a priority.
        I am totally fine with this if the coaching can elevate his pass pro which actual was enough bad in his position. If I am not mistaken, his run-block was up there in the top tier in the position whereas his pass-pro was quite poor. That chasm and discrepancy is not marginal but like I said, much more material they have on him to come to a sound decision but if someone (Raiders for instance) are prepared to offer him insane money, we just may not be able to hang onto Zion and therefore settle for a FA with better pass-pro and perhaps a bit lower grade in run-blocking.

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        • Boltjolt
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          #26104
          Originally posted by electricgold View Post

          Based on this Zeitler & Seumalo would be the 2 OG's to target!

          Is Teller really the answer?
          So who is wrong here? Those stats or is PFF the crap ive always thought it was? I mean i do use their numbers because its all we got for a gauge. Zion was a overall 57 grade which is below average.

          Teller was a overall 62 and 53 at pass blocking. He wasnt real good either. Zion a 60.9 @ pass blocking.
          Based on these Teller isnt much better and he isnt worth 14 mil a year if Zion isnt. But Teller has made 3 PBs and 2nd team All Pro once in 2021. Zion has not...but then, Shaduer Sanders made a PB this year so......lol.

          Need to watch some tape from last season and see whats up. Personally rather have Edwards

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          NFL and PFF player stats for Cleveland Browns G Zion Johnson on Pro Football Focus.


          Teller

          NFL and PFF player stats for Houston Texans G Wyatt Teller on Pro Football Focus.
          Last edited by Boltjolt; 02-19-2026, 01:19 PM.

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            #26105
            Originally posted by Factotum View Post

            I am totally fine with this if the coaching can elevate his pass pro which actual was enough bad in his position. If I am not mistaken, his run-block was up there in the top tier in the position whereas his pass-pro was quite poor. That chasm and discrepancy is not marginal but like I said, much more material they have on him to come to a sound decision but if someone (Raiders for instance) are prepared to offer him insane money, we just may not be able to hang onto Zion and therefore settle for a FA with better pass-pro and perhaps a bit lower grade in run-blocking.
            PFF is what is is but Zion's PFF pass pro grade of 60.6 was 49/81. Not league worst, a far distance from good. Zeitler had a pass pro grade of 75 for 9/81. Other FA OGs were higher than Zion, many were.

            Why target Zion first - I don't care if he's younger if that means he's going to be not as good for longer. IF coaches think all of his problems were Gro/Dev and he can be improved to at least the Top 20 then thats ok with me - I'll trust. But I still do not have Zion targeted on any of my IOL improvement plans. I'll just sign someone else instead. There is no continuity bonus with Zion - he didn't play with Slater for an entire year, they will have a new Center, and its an entirely new offense.

            I think signing a couple of the elder proven vets as a bridge until Joe can accumulate enough drafted IOL players over '27 and '28 is a very doable cost effective way to go - they won't cost a fortune, they play well and they can be signed to shorter term deals with opt-outs down the road.

            Nobody seems to like Risner, he had a decent season last year - better than Zion for sure. He seems suited for a zone run game, whatever it exactly is that McD installs. I think Zion will play better in a zone run scheme too - I just want to see better pass pro unless coaches decide differently.
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              #26106
              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              So who is wrong here? Those stats or is PFF the crap ive always thought it was? I mean i do use their numbers because its all we got for a gauge. Zion was a overall 57 grade which is below average.

              Teller was a overall 62 and 53 at pass blocking. He want real good either. Zion a 60.9 @ pass blocking.
              Based on these Teller isnt much better and he isnt worth 14 mil a year if Zion isnt. But Teller has made 3 PBs and 2nd team All Pro one in 2021. Zion has not...but then, Shaduer Sanders made a PB this year lol.

              Need to watch some tape from last season and see whats up. Personally rather have Edwards

              Zion

              NFL and PFF player stats for Cleveland Browns G Zion Johnson on Pro Football Focus.


              Teller

              NFL and PFF player stats for Houston Texans G Wyatt Teller on Pro Football Focus.
              Teller's pass pro grade looks the same as Zion's.
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              • CanadianBoltFan
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                #26107
                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                If you have two bookend OTs and a Center for the next three years (meaning Alts 5th year option) - -you have so much Oline flexibility
                Not only that

                If the Chargers want to get better at picking up stunts and blitzes, it starts with a Commander at center who can diagnose and make the calls. A top level Center to anchor the line and go with those tackles should be the priority of the entire off season.

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                • Factotum
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                  #26108
                  Dmac, I don't dispute any of your pieces either. I am ambivalent about Zion because as it has been stated in here many times, even today, he has pros and cons which pretty much match other viable FAs for the same position. Mayne ultimately it comes down to either a change to benefit both or the devil-whom-you-already-know coin toss!

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    #26109
                    Originally posted by Velo View Post

                    Zion was/is the only good IOL the Chargers have, I don't think his pass pro was bad, with such turnover on the OL, retaining Zion might be a priority.
                    For me - it might be a matter of cost and allocating funds

                    Linberbaum 82/4
                    McGovern 72/4
                    Zion Johnson 64/4

                    I probably lean toward the stronger OC as opposed to Zion. Zion was good but not sure he is that good to prioritize over Linderbaum. Now if Zion is cheaper - might be the better player

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      #26110
                      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                      For me - it might be a matter of cost and allocating funds

                      Linberbaum 82/4
                      McGovern 72/4
                      Zion Johnson 64/4

                      I probably lean toward the stronger OC as opposed to Zion. Zion was good but not sure he is that good to prioritize over Linderbaum. Now if Zion is cheaper - might be the better player
                      Im not for paying Zion 16 mil a year. I dont think they declined his 5th year option to pay him 16 mil a year. Is the 5th year option more than that?

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                        #26111
                        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                        Im not for paying Zion 16 mil a year. I dont think they declined his 5th year option to pay him 16 mil a year. Is the 5th year option more than that?
                        I think the 5th year option was 17 million

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                          #26112
                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          For me - it might be a matter of cost and allocating funds

                          Linberbaum 82/4
                          McGovern 72/4
                          Zion Johnson 64/4

                          I probably lean toward the stronger OC as opposed to Zion. Zion was good but not sure he is that good to prioritize over Linderbaum. Now if Zion is cheaper - might be the better player
                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                          Im not for paying Zion 16 mil a year. I dont think they declined his 5th year option to pay him 16 mil a year. Is the 5th year option more than that?
                          The projection I see for Zion is $11M per year. Can't have Pro Bowlers at every position. Zion is a good option for LG, given his experience playing next to both Alt and Slater, he will be sandwiched All Pro OT and OC.

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