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  • DerwinBosa
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    #985
    Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

    people need to remember the shit show that the two Jims inherited from TT and Staley, the cap situation and all that shit, they filled the holes as best as they could with the resources that they had and this team is still in a retooling year no matter how much Jim wants to make the playoffs, this team still lacks talent big time, center and guard, TE, WR, and the defense lacks a dominant interior guy to complement our edge talent...let's not pretend like this a loaded charger team like it's 2006 or something...
    Yeah, add a dynamic running back and I'm with you completely. Dobbins is good, but I watched Joe Mixon against the Packers yesterday, and Jahmyr Gibbs against the Vikings, as well. If we get better talent in our interior offensive line and that type of running back I think we will be a very feared team.

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    • Rambler
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      #986
      Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post


      I thought it was helmet to helmet, but clearly not. Officials probably just saw Hart leading with his head and threw the flag,
      The announcers claimed the penalty was on Hart (No. 20, can't remember if the refs announced the player number). But I wonder if it was thrown against Ja'Sir Taylor (No. 36), coming in from the back. His helmet appears to contact Harrison's helmet. But to me it looks like Taylor was holding up from delivering a big hit, and maybe Hart's glancing blow knocked Harrison into a position Taylor wasn't expecting.

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      • Fouts2herbert
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        #987
        Originally posted by SDBORN View Post

        if NFL scripts a 3PEAT for the Chiefs this year, I may be done watching lol
        who the fuck scripted the flukey fuked up fumbles from Raegor and Tart...that took a minimum of 6 points off the board for us and potentially 10...we lost by two despite not having anyone that can threaten their end zone, the formula has been laid down if the Chargers can't get Chark healthy for the rest of the year or make a trade for MWs or a better TE...

        this offense lacks finishers that can score TDs, QJ has been showing signs but he missed this game and I think our offense missed him big time tonight...
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        • CanadianBoltFan
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          #988
          Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post
          The D actually held up not too bad. The backbreaker was 25 Colson or 29 Hart? couldn't contain on Murray's TD. Took a crappy angle. Other than that they held them in check not too bad.

          Hart and Henley need to tackle better. That was bad luck w Raegor's fumble into the end zone or he is a scrub who doesn't know how to protect the ball. guy was a #1 draft pick.

          This is a rebuilding year. We had 3 rookies playing D tonite and missing many weapons on O so there were going to be mistakes. Like the broadcasters were saying we really have no deep threats just a bunch of guys. I think next year w another offseason we will be a serious contender. We need a #1 WR, a pass catching TE, upgrades at DT, CB etc.

          Not getting to bent out of shape over games like this though they could have played better. 10-7 type season really
          Yes so same as Staley usually provided....9-8 by beating the soft teams on the schedule.

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          • SDBORN
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            #989
            Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post

            They showed another angle and you could see 20 went helmet to helmet. Should have been more disciplined.
            It would be nice if they were consistent - like the blatant hold they didn't call on AZ in our redzone that ended up leading to a TD

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            • KrazyLegs
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              #990
              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
              I am reading the legit takes that we may have overinvested in OL and underinvested in weapons.

              But in my humble opinion, we could be well served with QJ, Chark and an elite ORG.

              The OL played poorly period.

              Just one of Dicker's figgies being turned a TD conversion and we win.

              Moving forward our Red Zone performance absolutely must improve.
              I mean, I would accept over-investing in the OL, if they were playing even above average. But they're not. They're playing poorly. Other than 2 games against horrible teams, we haven't been able to run the ball. And Herbert is consistently getting harassed.

              The OL might be the most underachieving unit on the Chargers so far. We kinda knew the WRs and TEs would struggle.

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              • Boltx
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                #991
                Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                who the fuck scripted the flukey fuked up fumbles from Raegor and Tart...that took a minimum of 6 points off the board for us and potentially 10...we lost by two despite not having anyone that can threaten their end zone
                That was brutal.

                Would love to go after Njoku but his contract looks bloated as hell. I know we have a ton of cap space coming up next year but we need to use it wisely.

                A low key trade for MW or Hopkins + QJ and Chark returning might ease the pain a little...but I'm afraid we might have to just suffer/slog through this season and then regroup on the other side.

                Why didn't we go after Amari Cooper??
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                • SDBORN
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                  #992
                  Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                  who the fuck scripted the flukey fuked up fumbles from Raegor and Tart...that took a minimum of 6 points off the board for us and potentially 10...we lost by two despite not having anyone that can threaten their end zone, the formula has been laid down if the Chargers can't get Chark healthy for the rest of the year or make a trade for MWs or a better TE...

                  this offense lacks finishers that can score TDs, QJ has been showing signs but he missed this game and I think our offense missed him big time tonight...
                  That's just the typical Chargers finding a way to crap the bed as usual. Don't need a script for that one - just history.

                  As I've said - the O sucks ass - has all year. I was expecting more improvement in the 2nd Q of football - so far disappointing - Herbert starting to throw for high yardage which is great, but it is not converting into points - inefficient offense. I don't think much will change unless Hortiz somehow brings in some pieces.

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                  • CanadianBoltFan
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                    #993
                    Originally posted by KrazyLegs View Post

                    I mean, I would accept over-investing in the OL, if they were playing even above average. But they're not. They're playing poorly. Other than 2 games against horrible teams, we haven't been able to run the ball. And Herbert is consistently getting harassed constantly.

                    The OL might be the most underachieving unit on the Chargers so far. We kinda knew the WRs and TEs would struggle.
                    Fair take.

                    We didnt go into the season with the best skill group, we knew that. And no it cant be fixed oiver night, but there is available veteran WR talent that could be traded for at a reasonable cost.

                    But this o line is very disappointing

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                    • Boltx
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                      #994
                      Originally posted by KrazyLegs View Post

                      I mean, I would accept over-investing in the OL, if they were playing even above average. But they're not. They're playing poorly. Other than 2 games against horrible teams, we haven't been able to run the ball. And Herbert is consistently getting harassed constantly.

                      The OL might be the most underachieving unit on the Chargers so far. We kinda knew the WRs and TEs would struggle.
                      I thought Herbert's pocket was very clean in the 2nd half. That's what we need more of consistently moving forward.

                      I think part of why some people are championing Nabers + JPJ is that how often do teams have the capital to long-term sign TWO elite tackles?? I get the feeling that Alt is being groomed to take over Slater's position, as they may just let him go. Dunno why, just a feeling. In which case it just seems like a lateral move. Why not just invest in keeping Slater, and then you would have had your #1 WR and stud center in this draft anyway.

                      I don't get it.
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                      • Chargers8491
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                        #995
                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                        I am reading the legit takes that we may have overinvested in OL and underinvested in weapons.

                        But in my humble opinion, we could be well served with QJ, Chark and an elite ORG.

                        The OL played poorly period.

                        Just one of Dicker's figgies being turned a TD conversion and we win.

                        Moving forward our Red Zone performance absolutely must improve.
                        We didn't overinvest in the OL. This was easily a 2 year project. They took care of the defense this year and did what they could on the offense. The FA's arn't working out like they are on defense. I would bet money they will get Herbert a weapon next year. We might see one this week.
                        1) Cut Becton, Boz(ret), Dissly, DD, Fisk, and Dupree
                        2) Re-sign Tart, Hand (4m), Phillips (5m)
                        3) Sign the ERFA's Williams, Patterson, and Vidal (3m).
                        4) Sign free agents Cole Strange (OG-1.5 m), Whyatt Teller (OG-10m), Luke Fortner (OC-6.5m), Brunskill (OC-vet min) Leo Chenal (LB-5m), Rashid Shaheed (WR- 14m), Cade Otten (TE-8m) Greg Dulcich (TE-3m), K'Lavon Chaisson (ED 9m), Myers (DT-7.8m), Alec Ingold (FB-6m), Hendrickson (ED-25m), Seumalo (OG-9m), AVT (OG). Jenkins (OG- 12m)

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                        • BayAreaBoltz
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                          #996
                          Originally posted by MW1 View Post
                          They can still go 14-3 and have a great season...(?)
                          Their more likely to lose their remaining games by scores of 14-3 than to go 14-3.

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