Chargers Vs Chiefs Game Day Thread (Week 1) | Post-game Discussion

[Fouts2herbert]

I agree about Alt. I'm not sure what the answer will be with Slater if he fully recovers. Right tackle may be it, but I know there was talk about him moving to guard before his draft. While I realize it's not ideal to have him play guard under his current contract, we can make it work with Alt on his rookie contract, and a rookie right tackle coming in. It will be interesting to see what happens.

That's ludicrous, if they start Slater at guard and play a rookie at tackle the whole coaching staff should get fired, talk about a waste of resources and fucking with Herbert's safety...Slater is one of the best OTs in the league, so disrespectful, a lot of the talking heads questioned whether he could play OT in the NFL and he shut the all up, if anyone can come back from this it's Slater, his dedication is elite level, this is not going to rob him of the ability to stay at OT...

[dmac_bolt]

I disagree with you.

"lack of energy" = "We weren't prepared, and that's on us." They were pointing fingers at no one but themselves, which *is* taking responsibility.

I don’t equate lack of energy with not prepared. They did not say they were not prepared. How is a team not prepared for the first game of the season? What sort of massive structural failure is that if an NFL team is not prepared for week 1 when they had 2 weeks since the last PS game?

To each their own…I’ll call BS on this interpretation too, acknowledging I don’t actually know - its jmo. Yes they pointed at themselves, but only to suggest it was a lack of energy and not anything substantive about anything they, or more importantly, the Chargers, did in the game. just a lil more rah rah fire up talk in the locker room and they would have won. I stand by my BS call

They weren’t ready or prepared to play Game 1? Puhhhhh-leeeeeeze! Why the hell not? They had months to prepare for the first game, they are a well-oiled professional NFL team, there is zero explanation for not preparing what they thought they should prepare. The correct answer is they did not prepare correctly or well enough to beat a superior team on that day. The Chargers were better prepared, had better schemes and plans, and executed better.

fuck their energy, suck a red bull and eat a bag of D’s, Andy!

[Fouts2herbert]

I'm pretty sure that "open hand slap" vs "closed fist punch" has been the standard for a long while now. It may be goofy, but that's how they do it.

going on 4 decades since I've been a fan it's always been the norm for determining the difference between getting penalized or getting both penalized and kicked out the game...

[Fouts2herbert]

Some day the NFL will crack down on guys like Kelce who try and deliberately draw penalties for going after guys after the whistle. Kelce was deliberately trying to get Tart ejected, or at least draw a flag. He has a history of it. Too bad the not-so-Swifts are all up in arms about it. That may be delusional that Kelce could have gotten hurt. Everyone who has played football knows punches on the facemask don't hurt. And most guys who throw a punch in an NFL game don't get ejected, despite the rule. The refs will throw someone out if you take a swing at a guy without a helmet.

a few years back on Sunday night against the Steelers, that bitch Heyward closed fist punched Herbert in the gut two or three times while Herbert was laying on his back on the turf, he got a personal foul which cost them like 6 yards because half the distance to the goal but didn't get kicked out the game...

[Boltnut]

Which is funny since I feel like Roman specifically designed this game to be a passing one given that we had only two TEs active and all 6 WRs playing. Roman fooled Spagnulo by playing against tendencies this time.

Yep... seems like he'll have more options to work with this season... certainly in the passing game.
I'm sure that certain teams will try to take away the passing game eventually... hopefully, that's when Omarion can shine.
I guess the whole Roman-can't-design-a-passing-plan narrative may die on the vine.
It's only one game... but promising none-the-less.

[Fouts2herbert]

Yep... seems like he'll have more options to work with this season... certainly in the passing game.
I'm sure that certain teams will try to take away the passing game eventually... hopefully, that's when Omarion can shine.
I guess the whole Roman-can't-design-a-passing-plan narrative may die on the vine.
It's only one game... but promising none-the-less.

what teams can cancel out 3 receivers a receiving TE AND the run game with base personnel? it's gonna be hard to find maybe the Texans or the Eagles? I can't think of many that even have a chance to make it happen...

[Fouts2herbert]

I don’t equate lack of energy with not prepared. They did not say they were not prepared. How is a team not prepared for the first game of the season? What sort of massive structural failure is that if an NFL team is not prepared for week 1 when they had 2 weeks since the last PS game?

To each their own…I’ll call BS on this interpretation too, acknowledging I don’t actually know - its jmo. Yes they pointed at themselves, but only to suggest it was a lack of energy and not anything substantive about anything they, or more importantly, the Chargers, did in the game. just a lil more rah rah fire up talk in the locker room and they would have won. I stand by my BS call

They weren’t ready or prepared to play Game 1? Puhhhhh-leeeeeeze! Why the hell not? They had months to prepare for the first game, they are a well-oiled professional NFL team, there is zero explanation for not preparing what they thought they should prepare. The correct answer is they did not prepare correctly or well enough to beat a superior team on that day. The Chargers were better prepared, had better schemes and plans, and executed better.

fuck their energy, suck a red bull and eat a bag of D’s, Andy!

Why is this upsetting you so much? who cares? they got the L, that's all that matters, I loved Herbert coming out and saying it's just another game, just another win, LOL!

[dmac_bolt]

Why is this upsetting you so much? who cares? they got the L, that's all that matters, I loved Herbert coming out and saying it's just another game, just another win, LOL!

Me upset? I’m not upset, I’m elated - I am mocking their lame excuses they offered for their loss. They are not men enough to admit they were out-planned and outplayed - which is what the entire world saw happen, so they blame … energy? Ha ha!

[DerwinBosa]

That's ludicrous, if they start Slater at guard and play a rookie at tackle the whole coaching staff should get fired, talk about a waste of resources and fucking with Herbert's safety...Slater is one of the best OTs in the league, so disrespectful, a lot of the talking heads questioned whether he could play OT in the NFL and he shut the all up, if anyone can come back from this it's Slater, his dedication is elite level, this is not going to rob him of the ability to stay at OT...

OK, bud, a little dramatic there. I'll leave it up to the coaching staff with whatever they want to do.

Joe Alt was fine as a rookie right tackle, by the way, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that Hortiz can find another.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

I don’t equate lack of energy with not prepared. They did not say they were not prepared. How is a team not prepared for the first game of the season? What sort of massive structural failure is that if an NFL team is not prepared for week 1 when they had 2 weeks since the last PS game?

How many kinds of massive structural failure are there? It's exactly what this was, and I don't think people recognize this. This is more than the loss of a game, it's an organizational disaster. We're seeing that the Emperor might be going Commando... [/quote]

To each their own…I’ll call BS on this interpretation too, acknowledging I don’t actually know - its jmo.

Since you don't actually know yourself, seems like you could bear to be at least a little more tolerant of others' hypotheses. Your go-to response to an opinion other than yours is contempt and ridicule. Maybe we can align ourselves more with the Spirit of Chargeroo.

Yes they pointed at themselves, but only to suggest it was a lack of energy and not anything substantive about anything they, or more importantly, the Chargers, did in the game. just a lil more rah rah fire up talk in the locker room and they would have won. I stand by my BS call

They weren’t ready or prepared to play Game 1? Puhhhhh-leeeeeeze! Why the hell not?

That's exactly what makes it such an embarrassingly candid taking-of-responsibility, and admission. There *is* no excuse, and it looks terrible. IMO, it's more respect-worthy that they're owning up to it. IMO, this is a total Come-to-Hay-Zeus Moment for the team and franchise.

They've been to-- what? Three of the last four Super Bowls? And won two of them? Teams can't keep their edge forever, and maybe this is the evidence of that which we've been waiting awhile for.

The Lakers had to get rid of Pat Riley after a string of championships, not because Riley wasn't a good coach anymore, but because he had nothing new to say to the players after, like, 12 years. He was unable to motivate them toa championship level any longer. He went to Miami, and coached successfully there. Fat Andy's situation could be very parallel to Riley's. Andy may have run his course in KC, just as he did in Philadelphia. We may be approaching the time where The Walrus receives his parting gifts.

This is, IMO, a far bigger thing than most people think. The decorated KC franchise just showed that trouble has finally arrived in paradise.

[Fouts2herbert]

Me upset? I’m not upset, I’m elated - I am mocking their lame excuses they offered for their loss. They are not men enough to admit they were out-planned and outplayed - which is what the entire world saw happen, so they blame … energy? Ha ha!

They're spoiled and used to playing Herbert without weapons and with new systems and new coaches and all sorts of other handicaps, so this new reality is going to take a minute to sink into their heads, Herbert has weapons now...defensively Minter has been solid against them with, cobbled together defenses and now that side of the ball is beginning to improve too, Kelce is looking old out there, Jones is looking old out there, they might be looking at a small retooling of their roster, it's just going to take them a minute to fully ingest this new reality, but as long as Patrick and Andy are both there, they will continue to be a force to be reckoned with...their rookie LT is easily the best player they've had at that position since Mahommes became the QB, the Chiefs aren't going anywhere until Andy and Mahommes call it quits...but now they have more competition in the division, all the teams are much improved from what the Chiefs are accustomed to facing, the Broncos and the Raiders might also take a game or two from them this season as well, it's a new era in the AFC West, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs but it's going to be harder now...

[21&500]

Just watching the first half now for the first time...
My adopted bolt Tuli got fucking held by the LG on the KC play where Kelce killed Worthy.

Edit: my 7 year old can draw a better bolt than what shit they painted in our endzone.

Edit 2: my boy Tuli applied the pressure/hit on Fatrick on 3rd down Q1 3:30 to cause the incompletion. No doubt Mahomes makes that pass without pressure.

Edit 3: Tuli again held by RT Taylor on the 4th and 1 where PM completes a short pass to rb. BTW, why is Henley so far away from the ball carrier on BOTH 4th down conversations?