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  • wu-dai clan
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    #13
    I am higher on DEN's Oline fix than others.
    We do not play modern football.

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    • beachcomber
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      #14
      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
      I am higher on DEN's Oline fix than others.
      in wu-dai vernacular.... am lock step w/you there, as Steve didn't mention the rookie from Penn State penciled in @the OC, and.... do think teams are gonna run on us, as think peoples are putting (way) to much on Mr. Tillery, and not acknowledging how much Corey Liuget weighed in on things for us (when healthy

      also gotta mention the proverbial/perennial Mr. Andy Reid.... he is a huge intangible for KC, and will most certainly keep them in contention, not to mention the probable development of Monsieur Mahomes.

      and agree, that unless Cognito is a revelation and then some, that not only do the Raiders have ?s on their Oline, am still not willing to give Gruden the benefit of the doubt.... (albeit don't think any game against them is any sort of gimme).

      also looking forward to seeing who is this year's Mike Pouncey/Brandon Flowers, courtesy of the "Coupon God," and.... agree 'bout who reads cbs ??
      RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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      • wu-dai clan
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        #15
        Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

        in wu-dai vernacular.... am lock step w/you there, as Steve didn't mention the rookie from Penn State penciled in @the OC, and.... do think teams are gonna run on us, as think peoples are putting (way) to much on Mr. Tillery, and not acknowledging how much Corey Liuget weighed in on things for us (when healthy

        also gotta mention the proverbial/perennial Mr. Andy Reid.... he is a huge intangible for KC, and will most certainly keep them in contention, not to mention the probable development of Monsieur Mahomes.

        and agree, that unless Cognito is a revelation and then some, that not only do the Raiders have ?s on their Oline, am still not willing to give Gruden the benefit of the doubt.... (albeit don't think any game against them is any sort of gimme).

        also looking forward to seeing who is this year's Mike Pouncey/Brandon Flowers, courtesy of the "Coupon God," and.... agree 'bout who reads cbs ??

        Re, Donkeys, Dalton Risner, Ronald Leary and Ja'wuan James should greatly stabilize things in DEN. Of course, Garrett Boles is still there.
        We do not play modern football.

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        • Panamamike
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          #16
          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post


          Re, Donkeys, Dalton Risner, Ronald Leary and Ja'wuan James should greatly stabilize things in DEN. Of course, Garrett Boles is still there.
          Lets wait and see. James is average at best and Risner is a rook. Flacco also holds the ball forever.

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          • wu-dai clan
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            #17
            Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

            Lets wait and see. James is average at best and Risner is a rook. Flacco also holds the ball forever.
            DEN overpaid for James. Bolles is a steaming pile. But it may just add up to creating decent looks for Philip Lindsay/Royce Freeman.
            We do not play modern football.

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            • Boltjolt
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              #18
              Leary is coming off a torn Achilles and is said he may not be ready for the start of the season.

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              • sonorajim
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                #19
                The AFCW has to go through the LAC. This is a very good D and the most complete Chargers team in many years.
                We addressed glaring issues at DT, FS, LB and picked up an athletic OT in the draft. Of course it remains to be proven that the rookies can actually have an impact...but I like them quite a bit. We get established quality who were on IR back at TE, CB, MLB, WLB and prospects back who were injured, Lamp, Kyzir White, WRs Scott & Cantrell,
                Add FA LB Thomas Davis.
                Not getting a lot of buzz...Punter. We stunk something awful. Hard to imagine that Ty Long or Tyler Newsome will not prove to be much better.
                Money Badger deserves kudos for solving our FG woes and hopefully the winning P can serve as a consistent touchback kicker-offer.
                Our kicking game should be significantly better.

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                • Sgt. Pepper
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                  #20
                  Originally posted by SYB View Post
                  Guy seems to be weighing the loss of Tyrell a little too much, IMO. With the late emergence of MW and the return of Henry, his role was going to be reduced anyhow. And we also have some promising young talent in Scott and Cantrell, who may deliver big if given a chance.

                  And Liuget isn't technically a loss until he actually signs somewhere else. :shrug: He could still be back.
                  KA and MW have injury histories; the loss of Tyrell will be sorely felt if either of them go down. There is nobody on the roster to fill the void. Benjamin doesn't command the respect Tyrell does. Tyrell never missed game to injury in his 3.5 years on the roster. Geremy Davis, Dylan Cantrell and Artavis Scott have zero NFL catches between them. Zero. I would feel better about the loss of Tyrell if we had brought back Dontrelle Inman, who had a pretty good thing going with Rivers. But he signed with the Patriots.

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                  • Panamamike
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                    #21
                    Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
                    KA and MW have injury histories; the loss of Tyrell will be sorely felt if either of them go down. There is nobody on the roster to fill the void. Benjamin doesn't command the respect Tyrell does. Tyrell never missed game to injury in his 3.5 years on the roster. Geremy Davis, Dylan Cantrell and Artavis Scott have zero NFL catches between them. Zero. I would feel better about the loss of Tyrell if we had brought back Dontrelle Inman, who had a pretty good thing going with Rivers. But he signed with the Patriots.
                    Helluva high price for that insurance coverage. I dont see wr as a weak area at all.

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                    • Panamamike
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                      #22
                      Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
                      The AFCW has to go through the LAC. This is a very good D and the most complete Chargers team in many years.
                      We addressed glaring issues at DT, FS, LB and picked up an athletic OT in the draft. Of course it remains to be proven that the rookies can actually have an impact...but I like them quite a bit. We get established quality who were on IR back at TE, CB, MLB, WLB and prospects back who were injured, Lamp, Kyzir White, WRs Scott & Cantrell,
                      Add FA LB Thomas Davis.
                      Not getting a lot of buzz...Punter. We stunk something awful. Hard to imagine that Ty Long or Tyler Newsome will not prove to be much better.
                      Money Badger deserves kudos for solving our FG woes and hopefully the winning P can serve as a consistent touchback kicker-offer.
                      Our kicking game should be significantly better.
                      It is funny that it many posters view our own rooks need to prove it, yet Den and Oak rooks are the reason for improvement by leaps and bounds.

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                      • Sgt. Pepper
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                        #23
                        Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

                        Helluva high price for that insurance coverage. I dont see wr as a weak area at all.
                        It's not weak as long is the top of the depth chart stays healthy. Problem is, all three players have recent injury history. And the three below them have zero NFL experience. Actually, I erred. Geremy Davis had two NFL catches from Eli Manning in 2015. But in three years with the Chargers, he has zero catches!

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #24
                          Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
                          KA and MW have injury histories; the loss of Tyrell will be sorely felt if either of them go down. There is nobody on the roster to fill the void. Benjamin doesn't command the respect Tyrell does. Tyrell never missed game to injury in his 3.5 years on the roster. Geremy Davis, Dylan Cantrell and Artavis Scott have zero NFL catches between them. Zero. I would feel better about the loss of Tyrell if we had brought back Dontrelle Inman, who had a pretty good thing going with Rivers. But he signed with the Patriots.
                          Let's not forget that our Front office let Inman go. Inman isn't close to being what Tyrell is but maybe Cantrell, Davis or Scott can be better than what Inman was.
                          Not to say Inman wasn't good, he did ok for us but I think these guys can be too.

                          Look forward to seeing Cantrell and i already like Scott.






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