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  • Formula 21
    The Future is Now
    • Jun 2013
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    AJ always upgraded the team's main weakness in the offseason. That's what TT doesn't do. He focuses on upgrading the D.
    Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
    The Wasted Decade is done.
    Build Back Better.

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    • Formula 21
      The Future is Now
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      Mock draft pick, just because I like the commentary


      Josh Myers C
      OHIO STATE • SOPH • 6'5" / 310 LBS
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      40th
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      9th
      The first round ends with two interior offensive linemen. It may seem boring but it's 2020, people. Do not lineman shame. The game starts on the line of scrimmage and if a team does not have capable players up front, the quarterback is going to get eaten alive and the skill players will not cook (because everyone is cooking these days, it seems). Be excited about offensive linemen
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      The Wasted Decade is done.
      Build Back Better.

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      • like54ninjas
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        • Oct 2017
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        Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
        Mock draft pick, just because I like the commentary


        Josh Myers C
        OHIO STATE • SOPH • 6'5" / 310 LBS
        PROJECTED TEAM

        Kansas City
        PROSPECT RNK

        40th
        POSITION RNK

        9th
        The first round ends with two interior offensive linemen. It may seem boring but it's 2020, people. Do not lineman shame. The game starts on the line of scrimmage and if a team does not have capable players up front, the quarterback is going to get eaten alive and the skill players will not cook (because everyone is cooking these days, it seems). Be excited about offensive linemen
        Late day 2 early day 3 dude.

        Check out Orlando Umana (OC) UU. If no Creed Humphrey, Umana is a dude I like at OC or OG. Huge, physical, fairly nimble, and finishes opponents to the ground.
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        • Formula 21
          The Future is Now
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          Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

          Late day 2 early day 3 dude.

          Check out Orlando Umana (OC) UU. If no Creed Humphrey, Umana is a dude I like at OC or OG. Huge, physical, fairly nimble, and finishes opponents to the ground.
          I love Sunday pancakes.
          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
          The Wasted Decade is done.
          Build Back Better.

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          • Xenos
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            • Feb 2019
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            Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
            AJ always upgraded the team's main weakness in the offseason. That's what TT doesn't do. He focuses on upgrading the D.
            I think they both tried to address the weaknesses. TT just used FA more.

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            • richpjr
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              • Jun 2013
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              Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
              AJ always upgraded the team's main weakness in the offseason. That's what TT doesn't do. He focuses on upgrading the D.
              AJ had a couple of great drafts early and then the roster gradually went downhill. When he left, the cupboard was pretty bare.

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              • Xenos
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                • Feb 2019
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                Popper's thoughts on Tevi's supposed improvement from last season:
                I will be the first to admit that I had concerns about Sam Tevi starting at left tackle entering this season. But through four games, he has more than held his own as a pass blocker, which is the part of Tevi’s game I was most worried about. According to Pro Football Focus, Tevi has only allowed six pressures in 287 snaps this season. That is the ninth-fewest among all NFL tackles with at least 250 snaps in 2020. It is still early in the season, and there is plenty of football to be played, but so far, Tevi looks like a much improved pass protector despite switching from the right side to the left during an abbreviated offseason.

                So what is at play here? I think there are a few reasons for Tevi’s growth:
                1. James Campen is a really, really good offensive line coach with a proven record of developing athletic linemen, like Tevi, into terrific pass protectors. His influence cannot be overlooked here.
                2. The scheme is absolutely helping Tevi. The Chargers are using significantly more play action this season after moving on from Philip Rivers. They have used play action on 33.7 percent of their dropbacks through four weeks, including Taylor’s Week 1 start, according to PFF. With Rivers at quarterback last season, the Chargers ran play action on just 20.7 percent of dropbacks. Play action helps the offensive line because the threat of a run slows down pass rushers. The other scheme change helping Tevi — and the rest of the Chargers’ O-line for that matter — is more designed quarterback movement. This is really a component of the play action game, because your bootlegs and designed rollouts are typically happening after a fake handoff. But purposely moving the quarterback away from defensive linemen will, of course, take pressure off your offensive tackles.
                3. The Chargers have a mobile quarterback, and that escapability is going to make any offensive lineman look better. Herbert, particularly, has made big plays in off-script situations.

                You can apply these same three reasons to the offensive line’s growth overall from a pass protection perspective.

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                • gzubeck
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                  Originally posted by Xenos View Post
                  Popper's thoughts on Tevi's supposed improvement from last season:
                  At the rate we're going the chargers might be paying our offensive coaching and training more than our head coach!

                  :cheers:
                  Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                  "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    • May 2017
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                    Sam was my breakout player.
                    We do not play modern football.

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                    • Steve
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                      • Jun 2013
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                      Originally posted by Xenos View Post

                      I think they both tried to address the weaknesses. TT just used FA more.
                      Both AJ and TT use FA as a desperation move. Neither has had much success with it.

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                      • FoutsFan
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                        • Feb 2019
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                        I wish at least one of our O Linemen would have an ounce of pride, feel a little shame, but these guys are just here to collect a paycheck and not even put in an honest games effort.

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                        • like54ninjas
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                          Lamp, Tevi, Feeney played solid games.
                          Tevi gave up his first sack and 3 other pressures by my count.
                          Lamp missed a few blocks and gave up 3 pressures.
                          Feeney might get a sack credited to him but it was Groy who didn’t complete the pass off on the twist.
                          Pipkins got schooled for a couple of sacks but also had Groy missing assignments on stunt/blitz pickups next to him.
                          Ryan Groy was just a fucking disaster missing at least 14 blocking assignments. He also got manhandled into the backfield countless times. This dude needs to be cut.
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