POLL: Bolts Are Tanking...What Changes Need To Be Made?

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  • UglyTruth
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    #25
    Originally posted by richpjr View Post

    Do you think this team is one player away from being a legitimate Super Bowl contender with all of our injuries?
    EVERY team has injuries. Look at the amount of injuries the Packers had when they won the Super Bowl in 2011. Or the Patriots in 2003.

    Forget it, I'll do it for you.

    ​​​​​​ In the regular season, the Packers had 12 starters miss a total of 86 games and 31 players miss a total of 180 games.

    The 2003 New England Patriots, who went 14-2 and beat Carolina in the 38th Super Bowl, had starters miss a total of 103 games. Coach Bill Belichick's squad probably ranks with the Packers as the most injured champion, at least in the last 25 years.

    ​​​​​​https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...lv/1085265001/
    The Chargers aren't on pace to come even CLOSE to that. We have to quit making injuries an excuse if we want to see actual changes with this team.
    Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

    - 69-74 record
    - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
    - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
    - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
    - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
    - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
    - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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    • Topcat
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      #26
      Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

      Don't worry. The team will do the usual stringing you along and make things interesting, only to come up short again. The Chargers never fail to amuse.
      Yep...exactly! Bolts probably go 9-7 this year, with a CHANCE of the playoffs...then the same old stale promises that "we'll be back" and "we'll be better next year"....yeah, right....ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzzzZZZzzz.......

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      • ChargersPowderBlue
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        #27
        Originally posted by Chargerville View Post
        If any of it were to happen, I can definitely see the Chargers finally decided to move on from Whiz.
        Something should be done about Gus BrADley too. Because his players are always sloppy with their tackling.

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        • UglyTruth
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          #28
          Whisenhunt is a JOKE of a football coach. There's a reason why Arizona fans rejoiced when the Cardinals fired him despite him coaching them to the Super Bowl...because they knew they made it in spite of him and he's responsible for wasting a magical playoff run by Warner. And the Titans were terrible with him and he's responsible for instilling many bad habits into Mariota and ruining him.

          Gus Bradley lived off his fame with Seattle which was more based on the talent they had than his coaching as all his successors did just as good or better with the Seahawks D even after he took the Jaguars job. And the Jaguars were a dysfunctional unit under him as well.

          Seriously, these two idiots cannot be our best options. Chargers value HC experience more than actual Xs and Os from their coordinators.
          Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

          - 69-74 record
          - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
          - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
          - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
          - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
          - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
          - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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          • Boltjolt
            Dont let the PBs fool ya
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            #29
            Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post
            Whisenhunt is a JOKE of a football coach. There's a reason why Arizona fans rejoiced when the Cardinals fired him despite him coaching them to the Super Bowl...because they knew they made it in spite of him and he's responsible for wasting a magical playoff run by Warner. And the Titans were terrible with him and he's responsible for instilling many bad habits into Mariota and ruining him.

            Gus Bradley lived off his fame with Seattle which was more based on the talent they had than his coaching as all his successors did just as good or better with the Seahawks D even after he took the Jaguars job. And the Jaguars were a dysfunctional unit under him as well.

            Seriously, these two idiots cannot be our best options. Chargers value HC experience more than actual Xs and Os from their coordinators.
            Lol, Mariota is still mediocre.

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            • richpjr
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              #30
              Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

              EVERY team has injuries. Look at the amount of injuries the Packers had when they won the Super Bowl in 2011. Or the Patriots in 2003.

              Forget it, I'll do it for you.



              The Chargers aren't on pace to come even CLOSE to that. We have to quit making injuries an excuse if we want to see actual changes with this team.
              You did not answer my question: Do you think this team is one player away from being legitimate Super Bowl contender with all of our injuries? If the answer is yes, exploring a trade is warranted. If the answer is no, it would be foolish to trade draft picks and overpay for a player right now.

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              • richpjr
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                #31
                Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post
                Whisenhunt is a JOKE of a football coach. There's a reason why Arizona fans rejoiced when the Cardinals fired him despite him coaching them to the Super Bowl...because they knew they made it in spite of him and he's responsible for wasting a magical playoff run by Warner. And the Titans were terrible with him and he's responsible for instilling many bad habits into Mariota and ruining him.

                Gus Bradley lived off his fame with Seattle which was more based on the talent they had than his coaching as all his successors did just as good or better with the Seahawks D even after he took the Jaguars job. And the Jaguars were a dysfunctional unit under him as well.

                Seriously, these two idiots cannot be our best options. Chargers value HC experience more than actual Xs and Os from their coordinators.
                You are seriously blaming Whiz for Marriota sucking as a QB? That is just sad.

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                • UglyTruth
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                  #32
                  Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                  Need less over reacting fans. Nothing on that list is going to happen during the season.
                  I would like to see Telesco more active as a GM though. Building thru the draft is great but when you have big holes, get somebody to fix it.
                  Suggesting to fire Telesco after he constructed a roster and hired MULTIPLE HCs responsible for missing playoffs in 4 of his 6 years here is an overreaction?

                  Telesco isn't going to be more active, he said it in his very introductory press conference and many others since then that he believes in fixing everything through the draft and only using the free agency for basically depth and backup signings.

                  No other GM in the NFL has done worse with drafting OL and DL players than Telesco since 2013. His only saving grace was Bosa and that fell into his lap since he had a top 3 pick in that draft to use. And not a single OL he has drafted has had positive production with any consistency on the field.
                  Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

                  - 69-74 record
                  - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
                  - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
                  - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
                  - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
                  - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
                  - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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                  • UglyTruth
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                    #33
                    Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                    You did not answer my question: Do you think this team is one player away from being legitimate Super Bowl contender with all of our injuries? If the answer is yes, exploring a trade is warranted. If the answer is no, it would be foolish to trade draft picks and overpay for a player right now.
                    Yes. If we can land a stud left tackle and start Lamp over Feeney then yes I think we are a playoff contender (and anything can happen in the playoffs in football's format since it's do or die each playoff game).

                    Even more so than that, I don't see a negative side to it because the Chargers are not a good drafting team so would rather get a proven player than waste the pick(s) on a bust.
                    Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

                    - 69-74 record
                    - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
                    - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
                    - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
                    - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
                    - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
                    - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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                    • richpjr
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                      #34
                      Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

                      Suggesting to fire Telesco after he constructed a roster and hired MULTIPLE HCs responsible for missing playoffs in 4 of his 6 years here is an overreaction?

                      Telesco isn't going to be more active, he said it in his very introductory press conference and many others since then that he believes in fixing everything through the draft and only using the free agency for basically depth and backup signings.

                      No other GM in the NFL has done worse with drafting OL and DL players than Telesco since 2013. His only saving grace was Bosa and that fell into his lap since he had a top 3 pick in that draft to use. And not a single OL he has drafted has had positive production with any consistency on the field.
                      And somehow the team TT built was 12-4 last year and won a playoff game. Harsh reality - the team is wiped out by injuries. No way TT could see have forseen some of these issues. The Chiefs got wiped out tonight by injuries and scored 13 points in a home loss. I guess Reid and his staff should be fired too.

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                      • richpjr
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                        #35
                        Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

                        Yes. If we can land a stud left tackle and start Lamp over Feeney then yes I think we are a playoff contender (and anything can happen in the playoffs in football's format since it's do or die each playoff game).

                        Even more so than that, I don't see a negative side to it because the Chargers are not a good drafting team so would rather get a proven player than waste the pick(s) on a bust.
                        You are nuts if you think this team is one player away. Keep the draft picks and limp through the season.

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #36
                          Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

                          Suggesting to fire Telesco after he constructed a roster and hired MULTIPLE HCs responsible for missing playoffs in 4 of his 6 years here is an overreaction?

                          Telesco isn't going to be more active, he said it in his very introductory press conference and many others since then that he believes in fixing everything through the draft and only using the free agency for basically depth and backup signings.

                          No other GM in the NFL has done worse with drafting OL and DL players than Telesco since 2013. His only saving grace was Bosa and that fell into his lap since he had a top 3 pick in that draft to use. And not a single OL he has drafted has had positive production with any consistency on the field.
                          Hmm, Okung isn't depth. Neither is Mebane. Neither is Hayward or Thomas Davis or Pouncey.
                          You just can't fix everything in the draft unless you get more picks for like,..... Trading guys like Benjamin, or Gordon, etc.
                          So... he signs players, just not often enough. Needs to made a trade every now and then too if he wants to win.
                          I'd have loved to sign Z'Darius Smith or Justin Houston and was asking for it to happen. We needed another pass rusher to rotate in. Still do!

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