POLL: Bolts Are Tanking...What Changes Need To Be Made?

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  • Boltgang74
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    • Aug 2018
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    #37
    They didn't lose to a friggin 0-4 team cmon.

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    • UglyTruth
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      #38
      Originally posted by richpjr View Post

      And somehow the team TT built was 12-4 last year and won a playoff game. Harsh reality - the team is wiped out by injuries. No way TT could see have forseen some of these issues. The Chiefs got wiped out tonight by injuries and scored 13 points in a home loss. I guess Reid and his staff should be fired too.
      Chiefs are 4-1. Please do not act as if the Chargers are even in the same planet as the Chiefs.

      And I literally just showed you in another thread teams with far more injuries than the Chargers have had and actually won the title.

      Plus who's fault is it for Telesco re-signing players like Perryman to multi year deals when he's shown time and time again that he is extremely injury prone? That money could've been used towards shoring up the god awful OL or DL.

      This bullshit about the Chargers being garbage cause of injuries and not cause of piss poor management decisions by Telesco and coaching decisions by The Three Idiots in Lynn, Whisenhunt and Bradley needs to stop. Every team in the league is dealing with injuries, it's not just the Chargers. The Colts for example have far worse injuries than we have yet I don't see their team just folding like the Chargers did today.
      Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

      - 69-74 record
      - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
      - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
      - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
      - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
      - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
      - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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      • Boltjolt
        Dont let the PBs fool ya
        • Jun 2013
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        #39
        Originally posted by richpjr View Post

        And somehow the team TT built was 12-4 last year and won a playoff game. Harsh reality - the team is wiped out by injuries. No way TT could see have forseen some of these issues. The Chiefs got wiped out tonight by injuries and scored 13 points in a home loss. I guess Reid and his staff should be fired too.
        And bench Mahomes.

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        • UglyTruth
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          #40
          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

          Hmm, Okung isn't depth. Neither is Mebane. Neither is Hayward or Thomas Davis.
          You just can't fix everything in the draft unless you get more picks for like,..... Trading guys like Benjamin, or Gordon, etc.
          So... he signs players, just not often enough. Needs to made a trade every now and then too if he wants to win.
          I'd have loved to sign Z'Darius Smith or Justin Houston and was asking for it to happen. We needed another pass rusher to rotate in. Still do!
          Hayward was a depth signing at the time. Look back to when the Chargers signed him, the Chargers weren't expecting him to be the #1 CB but he simply exceeded all expectations.

          Mebane and Thomas Davis are not starting caliber players and SHOULD be depth/backups because there is no reason for those old goozers should be starting an NFL game but because Telesco has not drafted or signed anyone better, they continue to start as they are seen as the best options by Lynn.

          Okung was a rare starting caliber player signing and even for that Telesco ignored that Okung had missed 23 games in 7 years prior to signing with the Chargers.
          Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

          - 69-74 record
          - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
          - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
          - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
          - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
          - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
          - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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          • richpjr
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            • Jun 2013
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            #41
            Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

            Chiefs are 4-1. Please do not act as if the Chargers are even in the same planet as the Chiefs.

            And I literally just showed you in another thread teams with far more injuries than the Chargers have had and actually won the title.

            Plus who's fault is it for Telesco re-signing players like Perryman to multi year deals when he's shown time and time again that he is extremely injury prone? That money could've been used towards shoring up the god awful OL or DL.

            This bullshit about the Chargers being garbage cause of injuries and not cause of piss poor management decisions by Telesco and coaching decisions by The Three Idiots in Lynn, Whisenhunt and Bradley needs to stop. Every team in the league is dealing with injuries, it's not just the Chargers. The Colts for example have far worse injuries than we have yet I don't see their team just folding like the Chargers did today.
            TT isn't going anywhere. Lynn isn't going anywhere. Whiz and Gus aren't going anywhere. The Colts are not wiped out in clusters like we are and have one more win than us. Injuries are affecting the team, regardless of what a couple of teams in the past have done. You can stick your head in the sand and whine about how somehow the backups are playing would be All Pros if our coaching staff didn't suck so bad but that just ignores reality.

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            • Boltjolt
              Dont let the PBs fool ya
              • Jun 2013
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              #42
              Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

              Chiefs are 4-1. Please do not act as if the Chargers are even in the same planet as the Chiefs.

              And I literally just showed you in another thread teams with far more injuries than the Chargers have had and actually won the title.

              Plus who's fault is it for Telesco re-signing players like Perryman to multi year deals when he's shown time and time again that he is extremely injury prone? That money could've been used towards shoring up the god awful OL or DL.

              This bullshit about the Chargers being garbage cause of injuries and not cause of piss poor management decisions by Telesco and coaching decisions by The Three Idiots in Lynn, Whisenhunt and Bradley needs to stop. Every team in the league is dealing with injuries, it's not just the Chargers. The Colts for example have far worse injuries than we have yet I don't see their team just folding like the Chargers did today.
              Well they got beat by the Colts who everyone here wasnt impressed with when we beat them . Yes that's right, we beat them!
              That team is good and was a playoff team last season and looks to be this year.
              Hey I'm not thrilled with Bradley right now but we went 12-4 with him last year.
              Lot of snivelers in here these days, even when we win it isn't good enough.

              On any given Sunday the bad team can win. The Broncos sucked last year but beat us at home. I look for a bounce back next week. Or let us play every game on the road. We suck at home.

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              • UglyTruth
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                #43
                Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                You are nuts if you think this team is one player away. Keep the draft picks and limp through the season.
                And waste one of Rivers last seasons. And keep the picks for what? To draft more busts next April?
                Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

                - 69-74 record
                - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
                - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
                - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
                - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
                - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
                - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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                • UglyTruth
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                  #44
                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                  TT isn't going anywhere. Lynn isn't going anywhere. Whiz and Gus aren't going anywhere. The Colts are not wiped out in clusters like we are and have one more win than us. Injuries are affecting the team, regardless of what a couple of teams in the past have done. You can stick your head in the sand and whine about how somehow the backups are playing would be All Pros if our coaching staff didn't suck so bad but that just ignores reality.
                  Colts were missing both their starting safeties in Hooker and Geathers and their best defensive player in Darius Leonard. And their #2 WR Parris Campbell was out as well while their #1 WR Hilton was played injured.

                  Chargers came into today missing three impact players in Ingram, James and Okung and then Henry a decent player. Others like Phillips, and Jackson are decent players but not significant losses since Phillips is only good on STs and gets exposed on defense and Jackson is valuable but he wouldn't have played today anyway with Gordon/Ekeler getting all RB snaps.

                  The injuries are pretty comparable regardless of what you think.

                  You can keep sticking your hand in the sand and act as if the Chargers are the only team dealing with injuries. The difference is that other good teams are overcoming it while the Chargers are not.
                  Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:

                  - 69-74 record
                  - 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
                  - Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
                  - 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
                  - 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
                  - Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
                  - Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games

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                  • Boltjolt
                    Dont let the PBs fool ya
                    • Jun 2013
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                    #45
                    Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

                    Hayward was a depth signing at the time. Look back to when the Chargers signed him, the Chargers weren't expecting him to be the #1 CB but he simply exceeded all expectations.

                    Mebane and Thomas Davis are not starting caliber players and SHOULD be depth/backups because there is no reason for those old goozers should be starting an NFL game but because Telesco has not drafted or signed anyone better, they continue to start as they are seen as the best options by Lynn.

                    Okung was a rare starting caliber player signing and even for that Telesco ignored that Okung had missed 23 games in 7 years prior to signing with the Chargers.
                    Lmao. OK. He been starting since he been here. He didn't need to be the #1 CB. He started out as the starting NB but Flowers kept getting hurt. . Which btw is another guy he signed to start.
                    Regardless of what you think, all those guys were starters when he signed them.

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                    • jamrock
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                      • Sep 2017
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

                      Colts were missing both their starting safeties in Hooker and Geathers and their best defensive player in Darius Leonard. And their #2 WR Parris Campbell was out as well while their #1 WR Hilton was played injured.

                      Chargers came into today missing three impact players in Ingram, James and Okung and then Henry a decent player. Others like Phillips, and Jackson are decent players but not significant losses since Phillips is only good on STs and gets exposed on defense and Jackson is valuable but he wouldn't have played today anyway with Gordon/Ekeler getting all RB snaps.

                      The injuries are pretty comparable regardless of what you think.

                      You can keep sticking your hand in the sand and act as if the Chargers are the only team dealing with injuries. The difference is that other good teams are overcoming it while the Chargers are not.
                      You're right.

                      we had all our weapons on offense and couldn't score a td. Squandered 2 opportunities inside the 5 and came away with zero points. Can't win that way. Won't win that way

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                      • richpjr
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                        • Jun 2013
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                        #47
                        Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                        You're right.

                        we had all our weapons on offense and couldn't score a td. Squandered 2 opportunities inside the 5 and came away with zero points. Can't win that way. Won't win that way
                        Yep all our weapons. Well, except for Okung, Henry, Pouncy for part of the game, Badgley, Inman, Jackson, Culkin, and Williams and TB played banged up. But everyone else.

                        Bottom line - Rivers has a bad game and we have little chance to win ever.

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                        • jamrock
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                          Yep all our weapons. Well, except for Okung, Henry, Pouncy for part of the game, Badgley, Inman, Jackson, Culkin, and Williams and TB played banged up. But everyone else.

                          Bottom line - Rivers has a bad game and we have little chance to win ever.
                          We didn't have Henry at all last season. Okung hasn't been here this season. Idk what happened to Pouncey today but sure glad they locked him up for next season.‍♂️. Everybody else you mentioned is auxiliary. Rivers, Ekeler, Gordon, Keenan and MW are the go to guys. None of them got it done today

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