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[powderblueboy]

How do you know they aren't impact players, they haven't played a down yet for the Chargers?

Who is your idea of an impact player? Alec Pierce? He has played one more season than QJ and has fewer TD receptions, and his completion percentage is lower than QJ's as well.

You don't consider Biadasz an impact player? After two seasons of Bozeman at OC? Remember what Jim Harbaugh said about OL, he considers them offensive weapons.

No, Biadasz is not an impact player ... and if he is, then at least 50% of NFL players are impact players.

[Chargers8491]

LOL I am trying to stop but the same conversations and debates keep coming up on here and I seem to jump in.

It's cyclic it won't stop till the season starts.

[DerwinBosa]

No we can't move on quite yet.

The Los Angeles Chargers accumulated 2,067 total rushing yards during the 2025 NFL regular season. This averaged out to approximately 121.6 rushing yards per game.

The Seattle Seahawks finished the 2025 NFL regular season with 2,096 total rushing yards. They averaged 123.3 yards per game

Also it sure does appear that the Seahawks have an oline that is much more durable and doesn't get hurt much, and the Chargers have an oline where the players drop like flies and have key olineman that are lost for the season and get hurt during practice. But hey at least we resigned Pipkins to be our swing OT!

Oh yeah and with our starting OT's

The Los Angeles Chargers recorded 1,882 total rushing yards during the 2024 NFL regular season. They averaged approximately 110.7 rushing yards per game.

2025 Chargers: 4.4 yards a carry. With Kimani Vidal, the third-string running back, as the leading rusher. Starting offensive line was different nearly every week.
2025 Seahawks: 4.1 yards a carry. With Kenneth Walker III, the unquestioned starter, as the leading rusher. Starting offensive line missed a total of seven games. Three of their linemen didn't miss a game at all.

Your argument is that the Seahawks have a more durable offensive line that ran more, which doesn't make it better than the one the Chargers started with at the beginning of the season. It also doesn't prove that they have a better offensive line now.

Kenneth Walker: 4.6 yards a carry. 2.8 of those yards came after contact.
Zach Charbonnet: 4.0 yards a carry. 2.1 of those yards came after contact.

Kimani Vidal: 4.1 yards a carry. 2.4 of those yards came after contact.
Omarion Hampton: 4.4 yards a carry. 1.7 of those yards came after contact.

There is no doubt that the Chargers would have had better rushing numbers with Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt, and a healthy Omarion Hampton and Najee Harris. The fact that the Seahawks are nearly neck and neck against a battered offensive line and running back depth chart that was led by its third-stringer is enough evidence to show that Seattle's offensive line was not at all a better run-blocking unit than what the Chargers would have had with Slater and Alt.

[electricgold]

2025 Chargers: 4.4 yards a carry. With Kimani Vidal, the third-string running back, as the leading rusher. Starting offensive line was different nearly every week.
2025 Seahawks: 4.1 yards a carry. With Kenneth Walker III, the unquestioned starter, as the leading rusher. Starting offensive line missed a total of seven games. Three of their linemen didn't miss a game at all.

Your argument is that the Seahawks have a more durable offensive line that ran more, which doesn't make it better than the one the Chargers started with at the beginning of the season. It also doesn't prove that they have a better offensive line now.

Kenneth Walker: 4.6 yards a carry. 2.8 of those yards came after contact.
Zach Charbonnet: 4.0 yards a carry. 2.1 of those yards came after contact.

Kimani Vidal: 4.1 yards a carry. 2.4 of those yards came after contact.
Omarion Hampton: 4.4 yards a carry. 1.7 of those yards came after contact.

There is no doubt that the Chargers would have had better rushing numbers with Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt, and a healthy Omarion Hampton and Najee Harris. The fact that the Seahawks are nearly neck and neck against a battered offensive line and running back depth chart that was led by its third-stringer is enough evidence to show that Seattle's offensive line was not at all a better run-blocking unit than what the Chargers would have had with Slater and Alt.

You can word it anyway you want, with if's and could of's and would of's or whatever, and jump up and down over a 4.4 to 4.1 YPC average. But if you look at 2024 with both our OT's and last season we didn't match what the Seahawks oline did, in rushing or protecting. the sacks our oline gave up is the MAJOR issue. not the run blocking. I shouldn't have to tell you this, again and again and again. So the Chargers have the better RB's, that's not the point. LOL you're using the seahawks rb's and our rb's rushing ave to try and defend our oline? What are we even talking about.

The fact of the matter is the Seahawks Oline gave up 27 sacks and rushed for 2,096 yards behind their Oline. To say as a matter of fact the Chargers have a better Oline at this point is WRONG! If you took a poll as to who had better oline last season between the Chargers and Seahawks, I bet 10 out of 10 times the Seahawks would come out on top.

But believe or think whatever you want.

[Boltjolt]

And I bet a bunch on this forum would have loved those moves. Lol.

Dolphins don't have enough cap space to sign their draft class so more moves coming. Trade Pipkins to them for Austin Jackson. Better OT insurance. Maybe he can play OG too.
Can trade him in 2027 on his last year of his deal and draft a swing OT.

[Boltjolt]

Slater who goes down for the year from friendly fire on a routine play in practice, and Alt who's ankles seem suspect?

The Chargers seem to always have at least one extreme element that completely fucks up everything and right now it's Hortiz with his bargin shopping.


If our two OT'S go down again this year, and Herbert is once again running around for his life with Pipkins starting games Hortiz needs to be fired mid-season.

You think his ankle(s) are suspect? He broke one not both and had surgery months ago.

[electricgold]

You think his ankle(s) are suspect? He broke one not both and had surgery months ago.

That's fine, his ankle could be suspect going forward after he broke it and had surgery. No? Let's hope not, but maybe do better than Pipkins as a possible precaution and solution.
What's going to be the reason Alt misses games this year? Because I don't want to hear it or see it. Otherwise.... Well you know the rest.

[Boltjolt]

Some nobody named Ady made the chart

But a respected o line guru, Brandon Thorn, ranked the guy the Chargers brought in , Burford, as the 26th best guard available in free agency. Notihng like going all out for that Super Bowl 😂

Thorn did love the Biadasz signing in all fairness though

Buford visiting the Raiders,.... I think today

[Boltjolt]

Woulda coulda shoulda. In perfect world I agree with you but no one cares.

What matters is the Broncos were 14-3...won the division..and made the AFC Final. Those are the results and measuring sticks that matter

My only original point in this whole conversation is that he Broncos are doing fine with Bo Nix at QB and he doesn't suck like some here are trying suggest. I don't lose my objectivity because I don't like a division rival. A fair bit of that goes on here. Like the Chiefs are done, we don't have to worry about them anymore

Not saying he sucks but with our OL and his#2 defense he wouldn't be 14-3 either. Doubt he would be 11-6

Bronco fans say their WRs weren't good but that unit was way better than our 2024 season WRs.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Not saying he sucks but with our OL and his#2 defense he wouldn't be 14-3 either. Doubt he would be 11-6

Bronco fans say their WRs weren't good but that unit was way better than our 2024 season WRs.

Agreed , few QBs could have done what Herbert did with last years circumstances. I was never comparing him to Herbert though, just saying the broncos are doing fine with him as QB

[Boltnut]

You are going to play action left and roll right on passing downs all game?

If the Chiefs stack Chris Jones over Cole Strange the whole game (as someone suggested)... then yes.
The Chiefs stacked the box in Game 1 of 2025 to stop the run all game. So we passed against them all game.
That turned out pretty well... even with some really good CB's (McDuffie and Watson) going against our pass offense.
Now... they don't even have McDuffie or Watson. The Chiefs are beatable. But we're supposed to fear them...?

[AFboltfan]

The Waddle trade really grinds my gears, I don't care what they gave up... The AFCW is getting stronger, are we? Debatable...