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[21&500]

Eric Bienemy will be the scapgoat this season.
can't wait.

[Craig440]

Chump fans are going to find out that you need stars to win in this league, particularly when you have crappy depth.
A collection of nice draft picks, but no future stars, and the more gullible feel they've returned to glory - sad.

Its getting absurd! They come here and flash a mention of Mahomes thinking opponent's fans will start cowering - really sad.
They never mention who else they have that is going to push them over the top,
even to the point of pushing the superiority of Andy Reid in our face before their other duds;
then, sensing some doubt, they predict that their injury free hiatus will continue and that other teams will be hit hard.
Again, its like the completely faded beauty queen who doesn't know when to quit puckering up and applying makeup - poor deluded creatures.

When all else fails, and thoughts of just how mediocre the talent is on the Chief's wells up from their bowels,
they opt for the old its our division until someone knocks us off line.

Pathetic!

They better be injury free, or its a 6 - 10 team.

I think we would have beat the Chiefs in the second game last year if Parham would have hung on to that ball and didn't get hurt. Changed the whole thing big time. We marched right down on our first possession and would have a TD. Had to settle for a FG and the scare of Parham took some wind out of our sails for sure.

[powderblueboy]

Bro, easy with the "you guys" rhetoric, I'm no Chiefs fan. Sorry if I'm not ready to coronate the Bolts yet, but please don't disrespect my fandom. It's no less valid than yours, even if I don't share your homerism right now.

Bottom line, credit where credit is due and KC is tops until someone takes them down. Good teams/organizations find ways to fill holes. Let's see who has done the better job.

How am I disrespecting your fandom by associating you with the Chiefs? You sound like one.

My 'homerism' crops up when someone comes here and anoints the Chiefs as champions again, and puts the Chargers in last place.
What you were you expecting?

And then you cop an attitude and toss a few cliches my way for good measure instead of responding.

Well, credit is a term used to qualify the past, not characterize the future: so it is useless for your intended purpose;
and even good organizations run into rough patches: one hole filled up and another one gets vacated.

Chiefs are lacking stars: how are they going to run the table?

[Steve]

I think we would have beat the Chiefs in the second game last year if Parham would have hung on to that ball and didn't get hurt. Changed the whole thing big time. We marched right down on our first possession and would have a TD. Had to settle for a FG and the scare of Parham took some wind out of our sails for sure.

We didn't score anything on that drive. The Parham play was 4th down.

We also likely would have scored a TD on the incomplete pass to Cook, had Parham still been in the game.

And on both of those drives, even only slightly better defensive performances would likely lead to some points. pinning the other team down on their own goalline is usually a smart thing to do, but if you are going to allow offenses to drive the length of the field on you, then it puts a lot of extra pressure on the O to score every single time.

[sonorajim]

The Chargers have now a better depht at DT and DB.
L. Joseph would be 4th or 5th IDL this year.
D. James injured 4-5 games doesn't scare me this year.

DT - Edge - LB - S - CB improved starters and / or depth across the board. This will not, repeat NOT be a below avg defense.
I'm thinking top 3, maybe #1 but I may be a little giddy. These FAs and draft are not what I'm used to.

[Boltx]

How am I disrespecting your fandom by associating you with the Chiefs? You sound like one.

My 'homerism' crops up when someone comes here and anoints the Chiefs as champions again, and puts the Chargers in last place.
What you were you expecting?

And then you cop an attitude and toss a few cliches my way for good measure instead of responding.

Well, credit is a term used to qualify the past, not characterize the future: so it is useless for your intended purpose;
and even good organizations run into rough patches: one hole filled up and another one gets vacated.

Chiefs are lacking stars: how are they going to run the table?

Who said anything about them running the table? I simply see them as the favorite in the division until proven otherwise. If you disagree, that's fine. I think their WR group is more well rounded than last year. Could JuJu or some of their other guys underperform? Sure, could happen to our signings too. But they have a proven, stable HC/QB tandem and that goes a long way. The Bolts, while having had a nice off-season, are...well, the Bolts, and they now need to show it translate into consistent wins.

For what it's worth, I don't think more than 2 games or so separates first and last in this division. Will be brutal start to finish.

[Craig440]

We didn't score anything on that drive. The Parham play was 4th down.

We also likely would have scored a TD on the incomplete pass to Cook, had Parham still been in the game.

And on both of those drives, even only slightly better defensive performances would likely lead to some points. pinning the other team down on their own goalline is usually a smart thing to do, but if you are going to allow offenses to drive the length of the field on you, then it puts a lot of extra pressure on the O to score every single time.

Thanks Steve. My memory is not good anymore. I do remember Parham had the ball until he fell. He would have caught it.

[beachcomber]

ok, reading this thread has me going to Our Lads and checking out the AFC West rosters, and.... sorry to say, but just have a funny feeling 'bout this season, and it's not so hot.... ??

KC

think the only guy that disappoints @receiver for the Chiefs is MVS, as think they have enough otherwise.... they also have a hellah HC & QB. their Oline is somewhere between tough and awesome, save for RT (sound familiar ?).... they still have Kelce 'n Clyde, and as was hoping to get him as a Charger, am of the opinion that Ronald Jones is gonna be a huge plus.... also like JuJu quite a bit.

their defense leaves a little to be desired, w/a decent Dline and some safety talent, plus McDuffie, who will be a plus.... question is, how did we not beat these guys ?? cannot forget that we had them handled in the first half w/Anthony Ray and Herbotron ?? ....good kicker too.

Denver

am a big Russell Wilson fan, and think he's got more than enough to work w/at wideout, and despite a rather big blow @TE w/the loss of Fant, there is Dulcich, who could produce some, and more than anything they will have Javonte Williams year 2.... he's a player/super baller.... their IOL is pretty solid as well.

their defense also leaves a bit to be desired, as they more have some bright spots, as opposed to strong position groups, let alone a cohesive D, and.... that said, we didn't exactly handle them either.

Vegas

on offense, they are a big handful, w/some serious challenges w/their receiver group, @TE, and again @RB, dude is gonna do some damage, and.... have never liked Carr, but he is a bit like the Eveready bunny, and just keeps on ticking.

on D, they have some top end talent on that side of the ball, and they sure look like they could be tough to run on up the middle.

LAC

think we have a huge plus in Herbert, but am not convinced his talents are being optimized, as think Lombardi, and perhaps @the behest of Telesco, did his best to push the MW narrative, and that he is this and that type of receiver, which however is a less efficient offense, and likely leaves/left Keenan a bit frustrated in not getting the ball as often as he'd like/should ?? we are also counting on a step up taken by the both of Palmer and Guyton.... @RB, we all love Austin's powers that be, but no one will be confusing Spiller w/Javonte nor Josh Jacobs, and prolly not Ronald Jones as well.

would also volunteer that if the either of Pips or Storm are on the roster, let alone starting, that we have FO politics interfering w/putting our best players on the field, and on the 53.

not sure that Everett is any big upgrade over Cook, and Parham and McKitty are still ?s.... think the latter could be more productive than expected, but we did not draft any TE talent this last go 'round, which leaves us a bit vulnerable here, @least by my take.

on O, think we need to get Keenan and Ekeler the ball, albeit not sure we have that third big threat.... know you like MW, and when he's on, we're pretty darn good, and when he's not, aren't we closer to so so, as in 9-8 ??

and on D, know most everyone is head over heels for SJD and Johnson, and.... not convinced they are that huge of an upgrade over a healthy Linval and Justin Jones ?? Bosa is already an availability concern, and Mack is a huge availability concern, and we don't really have an established ED3 on the roster either.... we have been left very exposed @edge rusher.

Jackson is an upgrade, albeit how much better is he over an again, healthy Casey Hayward ?? is Asante going to go twentysomething games ?? ....Callahan ?? Nasir's passing against rating was over 120.... does JT Woods solve that ?? and is Derwin more susceptible to injury the closer to the LOS he gets ??

and personally think the Reeder/Van Noy signings help alleviate a major vulnerability before so @LB, in once counting on Drue and Kenneth.

we have alot of things that need to go right for us.... Tillery/Murray need to get it together, Bosa/Mack need to keep it together as well.... MIke D. needs to get his juju back, and Asante/Callahan need to stay healthy.... ditto for Derwin, and MW.... we're also counting on Spiller.

think the bottom line for me, is that if you're paying your two receivers $40m, they better win some games for you, and.... they went 9-8.

also, last year peoples were calling it a slam dunk on D, given that we were gonna have the both of Bosa and James healthy for the year, of which they relatively were, and.... we got the near bottom of the barrel ranked D outta the deal last year.... what gives ??

and of course it's unpopular, and last year eye had them @11-6, which was the median avg on the forum here, and.... not sure what it is, but just have a funny feelin' that things might not turn out as well as peoples here are hoping for/counting on, as won't be surprised to see the standings reflect the order above.... ??

personal opinion is that Telesco/team Tommy John has left himself/themselves w/too many rabbits to pull outta the proverbial hat, and despite the obvious talent, have left this roster remarkably exposed.... ??

[Bolts&noles]

ok, reading this thread has me going to Our Lads and checking out the AFC West rosters, and.... sorry to say, but just have a funny feeling 'bout this season, and it's not so hot.... ??

KC

think the only guy that disappoints @receiver for the Chiefs is MVS, as think they have enough otherwise.... they also have a hellah HC & QB. their Oline is somewhere between tough and awesome, save for RT (sound familiar ?).... they still have Kelce 'n Clyde, and as was hoping to get him as a Charger, am of the opinion that Ronald Jones is gonna be a huge plus.... also like JuJu quite a bit.

their defense leaves a little to be desired, w/a decent Dline and some safety talent, plus McDuffie, who will be a plus.... question is, how did we not beat these guys ?? cannot forget that we had them handled in the first half w/Anthony Ray and Herbotron ?? ....good kicker too.

Denver

am a big Russell Wilson fan, and think he's got more than enough to work w/at wideout, and despite a rather big blow @TE w/the loss of Fant, there is Dulcich, who could produce some, and more than anything they will have Javonte Williams year 2.... he's a player/super baller.... their IOL is pretty solid as well.

their defense also leaves a bit to be desired, as they more have some bright spots, as opposed to strong position groups, let alone a cohesive D, and.... that said, we didn't exactly handle them either.

Vegas

on offense, they are a big handful, w/some serious challenges w/their receiver group, @TE, and again @RB, dude is gonna do some damage, and.... have never liked Carr, but he is a bit like the Eveready bunny, and just keeps on ticking.

on D, they have some top end talent on that side of the ball, and they sure look like they could be tough to run on up the middle.

LAC

think we have a huge plus in Herbert, but am not convinced his talents are being optimized, as think Lombardi, and perhaps @the behest of Telesco, did his best to push the MW narrative, and that he is this and that type of receiver, which however is a less efficient offense, and likely leaves/left Keenan a bit frustrated in not getting the ball as often as he'd like/should ?? we are also counting on a step up taken by the both of Palmer and Guyton.... @RB, we all love Austin's powers that be, but no one will be confusing Spiller w/Javonte nor Josh Jacobs, and prolly not Ronald Jones as well.

would also volunteer that if the either of Pips or Storm are on the roster, let alone starting, that we have FO politics interfering w/putting our best players on the field, and on the 53.

not sure that Everett is any big upgrade over Cook, and Parham and McKitty are still ?s.... think the latter could be more productive than expected, but we did not draft any TE talent this last go 'round, which leaves us a bit vulnerable here, @least by my take.

on O, think we need to get Keenan and Ekeler the ball, albeit not sure we have that third big threat.... know you like MW, and when he's on, we're pretty darn good, and when he's not, aren't we closer to so so, as in 9-8 ??

and on D, know most everyone is head over heels for SJD and Johnson, and.... not convinced they are that huge of an upgrade over a healthy Linval and Justin Jones ?? Bosa is already an availability concern, and Mack is a huge availability concern, and we don't really have an established ED3 on the roster either.... we have been left very exposed @edge rusher.

Jackson is an upgrade, albeit how much better is he over an again, healthy Casey Hayward ?? is Asante going to go twentysomething games ?? ....Callahan ?? Nasir's passing against rating was over 120.... does JT Woods solve that ?? and is Derwin more susceptible to injury the closer to the LOS he gets ??

and personally think the Reeder/Van Noy signings help alleviate a major vulnerability before so @LB, in once counting on Drue and Kenneth.

we have alot of things that need to go right for us.... Tillery/Murray need to get it together, Bosa/Mack need to keep it together as well.... MIke D. needs to get his juju back, and Asante/Callahan need to stay healthy.... ditto for Derwin, and MW.... we're also counting on Spiller.

think the bottom line for me, is that if you're paying your two receivers $40m, they better win some games for you, and.... they went 9-8.

also, last year peoples were calling it a slam dunk on D, given that we were gonna have the both of Bosa and James healthy for the year, of which they relatively were, and.... we got the near bottom of the barrel ranked D outta the deal last year.... what gives ??

and of course it's unpopular, and last year eye had them @11-6, which was the median avg on the forum here, and.... not sure what it is, but just have a funny feelin' that things might not turn out as well as peoples here are hoping for/counting on, as won't be surprised to see the standings reflect the order above.... ??

personal opinion is that Telesco/team Tommy John has left himself/themselves w/too many rabbits to pull outta the proverbial hat, and despite the obvious talent, have left this roster remarkably exposed.... ??

Great points.
The Lombardi thing is what's super disappointing.
Could use more speed at WR to match the QB.
The D was super disappointing also.
Iam not as worried, I think they will improve but I thought that last year to.
The Chiefs are still the team to beat until proven otherwise.

[dmac_bolt]

Who said anything about them running the table? I simply see them as the favorite in the division until proven otherwise. If you disagree, that's fine. I think their WR group is more well rounded than last year. Could JuJu or some of their other guys underperform? Sure, could happen to our signings too. But they have a proven, stable HC/QB tandem and that goes a long way. The Bolts, while having had a nice off-season, are...well, the Bolts, and they now need to show it translate into consistent wins.

For what it's worth, I don't think more than 2 games or so separates first and last in this division. Will be brutal start to finish.

This is the Lets Go Brandon year. Staley has (enough of) his team, he will shake off the rookie stumbles to take this team to a plateau heretofore unseen. I can feel it. Sure, I felt it last year, maybe the year before. That only shows how incredibly in tune I was to sense it a full year or two before it happens

[TexanBeerlover]

The Bills have been chasing the Chiefs in the AFC during the past few seasons, and they were chasing them in this draft as well, as both teams maneuvered to select cornerbacks late in the first round. Kansas City leaped past Buffalo by trading up eight spots to 21 for cornerback Trent McDuffie. Buffalo then jumped two spots, bypassing Dallas, to take cornerback Kaiir Elam at 23. There would not be another corner selected until 35.

[Boltinloudguy]

ok, reading this thread has me going to Our Lads and checking out the AFC West rosters, and.... sorry to say, but just have a funny feeling 'bout this season, and it's not so hot.... ??

KC

think the only guy that disappoints @receiver for the Chiefs is MVS, as think they have enough otherwise.... they also have a hellah HC & QB. their Oline is somewhere between tough and awesome, save for RT (sound familiar ?).... they still have Kelce 'n Clyde, and as was hoping to get him as a Charger, am of the opinion that Ronald Jones is gonna be a huge plus.... also like JuJu quite a bit.

their defense leaves a little to be desired, w/a decent Dline and some safety talent, plus McDuffie, who will be a plus.... question is, how did we not beat these guys ?? cannot forget that we had them handled in the first half w/Anthony Ray and Herbotron ?? ....good kicker too.

Denver

am a big Russell Wilson fan, and think he's got more than enough to work w/at wideout, and despite a rather big blow @TE w/the loss of Fant, there is Dulcich, who could produce some, and more than anything they will have Javonte Williams year 2.... he's a player/super baller.... their IOL is pretty solid as well.

their defense also leaves a bit to be desired, as they more have some bright spots, as opposed to strong position groups, let alone a cohesive D, and.... that said, we didn't exactly handle them either.

Vegas

on offense, they are a big handful, w/some serious challenges w/their receiver group, @TE, and again @RB, dude is gonna do some damage, and.... have never liked Carr, but he is a bit like the Eveready bunny, and just keeps on ticking.

on D, they have some top end talent on that side of the ball, and they sure look like they could be tough to run on up the middle.

LAC

think we have a huge plus in Herbert, but am not convinced his talents are being optimized, as think Lombardi, and perhaps @the behest of Telesco, did his best to push the MW narrative, and that he is this and that type of receiver, which however is a less efficient offense, and likely leaves/left Keenan a bit frustrated in not getting the ball as often as he'd like/should ?? we are also counting on a step up taken by the both of Palmer and Guyton.... @RB, we all love Austin's powers that be, but no one will be confusing Spiller w/Javonte nor Josh Jacobs, and prolly not Ronald Jones as well.

would also volunteer that if the either of Pips or Storm are on the roster, let alone starting, that we have FO politics interfering w/putting our best players on the field, and on the 53.

not sure that Everett is any big upgrade over Cook, and Parham and McKitty are still ?s.... think the latter could be more productive than expected, but we did not draft any TE talent this last go 'round, which leaves us a bit vulnerable here, @least by my take.

on O, think we need to get Keenan and Ekeler the ball, albeit not sure we have that third big threat.... know you like MW, and when he's on, we're pretty darn good, and when he's not, aren't we closer to so so, as in 9-8 ??

and on D, know most everyone is head over heels for SJD and Johnson, and.... not convinced they are that huge of an upgrade over a healthy Linval and Justin Jones ?? Bosa is already an availability concern, and Mack is a huge availability concern, and we don't really have an established ED3 on the roster either.... we have been left very exposed @edge rusher.

Jackson is an upgrade, albeit how much better is he over an again, healthy Casey Hayward ?? is Asante going to go twentysomething games ?? ....Callahan ?? Nasir's passing against rating was over 120.... does JT Woods solve that ?? and is Derwin more susceptible to injury the closer to the LOS he gets ??

and personally think the Reeder/Van Noy signings help alleviate a major vulnerability before so @LB, in once counting on Drue and Kenneth.

we have alot of things that need to go right for us.... Tillery/Murray need to get it together, Bosa/Mack need to keep it together as well.... MIke D. needs to get his juju back, and Asante/Callahan need to stay healthy.... ditto for Derwin, and MW.... we're also counting on Spiller.

think the bottom line for me, is that if you're paying your two receivers $40m, they better win some games for you, and.... they went 9-8.

also, last year peoples were calling it a slam dunk on D, given that we were gonna have the both of Bosa and James healthy for the year, of which they relatively were, and.... we got the near bottom of the barrel ranked D outta the deal last year.... what gives ??

and of course it's unpopular, and last year eye had them @11-6, which was the median avg on the forum here, and.... not sure what it is, but just have a funny feelin' that things might not turn out as well as peoples here are hoping for/counting on, as won't be surprised to see the standings reflect the order above.... ??

personal opinion is that Telesco/team Tommy John has left himself/themselves w/too many rabbits to pull outta the proverbial hat, and despite the obvious talent, have left this roster remarkably exposed.... ??

while I get your concern here about injury. That goes for every team, not just the Chargers.

What I noticed even with the injuries last year, there were one of the healthier Charger teams I’ve seen throughout the years. I think what Staley and the Strength Coach are doing on the strength, condition, stretching and recovery aspect, is much better than what they were doin in the past.

This roster also already has more depth than it has had in the past thanks to Staley.