Telesco Likes Internal Options At QB - Post Rivers Era QB Discussion

[wu-dai clan]

Greg Roman?
Pat Meyer?

Greg Roman is industrious.
Pat Meyer is Campen similar!

[like54ninjas]

The key is to recapture, as much as we can, what took place the first year in BUF.

Further study and analysis to follow.

Hopefully Tyrod can grow along with Steichen.

The 52 turnovers by rivers is fucking ugly! More than 1 per game.
Have no idea what Taylor will be able to do but turnovers cost games.

[blueman]

Those stats are shocking.

[chargeroo]

I'm remembering how many passes PR threw to WR's that well covered and I'm wondering can Tyrod be that precise? Rivers seldom had a receiver that was wide open because our two top receivers aren't speedy. I hope I'm wrong but I really do not think Tyrod will be the answer.

[richpjr]

I'm remembering how many passes PR threw to WR's that well covered and I'm wondering can Tyrod be that precise? Rivers seldom had a receiver that was wide open because our two top receivers aren't speedy. I hope I'm wrong but I really do not think Tyrod will be the answer.

Anyone that has watched Taylor play already knows the answer to this - he just won’t ever attempt to fit a pass in a tight window. If your sole goal is to reduce turnover, at the expense of more sacks, fewer first downs, fewer TDS than he is your guy. But if you have to take a chance to try and out score a team like the Chiefs, sorry - he’ll be left in the dust.

[Critty]

Tyrod had a 92.5 passer career rating as Bills QB

Rivers had a 95.1 passer career rating as Chargers QB.

Tyrod doesn't force ball into small windows or throw the rock 50/50 up for grabs jump balls.
If its not open he tucks and runs or buys time and throws to open target.
Not sure why that's a bad thing.

Rivers led offense over past 5 seasons
2015. 20pts a game
2016. 25pts a game
2017. 22pts a game
2018. 27pts a game
2019. 21pts a game

Tyrod led offense for 3 years with Bills.
2015. 24pts a game
2016. 25pts a game
2017. 19pts a game

So if we are worried about enough points to beat Kansas City....Rivers was not going to be able to match Mahomes. And Tyrod cannot match Mahomes. But we can not give more possession to the Chiefs by protecting the rock...something Tyrod typically does. And that can help beat them.

It about finding ways to win.

Protect the rock.
Run the football.
Move the chains.
Play great defense.
Play great special teams.
QB makes a game winning play in close games either with arm or legs.

[richpjr]

Tyrod had a 92.5 passer career rating as Bills QB

Rivers had a 95.1 passer career rating as Chargers QB.

Tyrod doesn't force ball into small windows or throw the rock 50/50 up for grabs jump balls.
If its not open he tucks and runs or buys time and throws to open target.
Not sure why that's a bad thing.

Rivers led offense over past 5 seasons
2015. 20pts a game
2016. 25pts a game
2017. 22pts a game
2018. 27pts a game
2019. 21pts a game

Tyrod led offense for 3 years with Bills.
2015. 24pts a game
2016. 25pts a game
2017. 19pts a game

So if we are worried about enough points to beat Kansas City....Rivers was not going to be able to match Mahomes. And Tyrod cannot match Mahomes. But we can not give more possession to the Chiefs by protecting the rock...something Tyrod typically does. And that can help beat them.

It about finding ways to win.

Protect the rock.
Run the football.
Move the chains.
Play great defense.
Play great special teams.
QB makes a game winning play in close games either with arm or legs.

Stats are wonderful and useful to cherry pick to prove a point - I do it all the time!

I have a good friend from northern NY and we watched a ton of the games during Taylor's time in Buffalo. Here is the reality which people who have not watched him play much will soon see if he is our starting QB next year - he really is just not that good. He was forced to take a massive pay reduction after his second year as a starter in Buffalo or they were going to cut him. He agreed to it and then was benched in his 3rd year because of lack of production by the offense. He's had nagging injuries every year he was a starter and missed at least one game in each season. So yeah, he won't turn it over like Rivers did last year but we are just going nowhere with him. If we draft a QB, he'll likely start as Daniel Jeremiah thinks that only Burrows and maybe Herbert of all of the rookie QBs are the only ones who could start this year. He also said he'd WAY rather trade a low to mid round pick to the Bengals for Andy Dalton and start him than to start Taylor. Think about that!

[Critty]

Stats are wonderful and useful to cherry pick to prove a point - I do it all the time!

I have a good friend from northern NY and we watched a ton of the games during Taylor's time in Buffalo. Here is the reality which people who have not watched him play much will soon see if he is our starting QB next year - he really is just not that good. He was forced to take a massive pay reduction after his second year as a starter in Buffalo or they were going to cut him. He agreed to it and then was benched in his 3rd year because of lack of production by the offense. He's had nagging injuries every year he was a starter and missed at least one game in each season. So yeah, he won't turn it over like Rivers did last year but we are just going nowhere with him. If we draft a QB, he'll likely start as Daniel Jeremiah thinks that only Burrows and maybe Herbert of all of the rookie QBs are the only ones who could start this year. He also said he'd WAY rather trade a low to mid round pick to the Bengals for Andy Dalton and start him than to start Taylor. Think about that!

Forget stats.
And forget pundits who have not been on the sidelines.
And forget about the opinion of your good friend from NY who watches lots of games.

Rex Ryan former NFL HC & DC recently ripped Rivers.
He was asked about where Brady should go........to paraphrase...he said Chargers would be a perfect fit. Brady will do a lot of different things as QB to help them win and they have a lot of talent on that team and a great coach. Rex also said Brady isn't going to go 5O protection every play like Rivers and turn it over every other snap late in games. Yes Rex statement was hyperbole..but he was making his point about QB play.

lets bring back stats.
Wins & losses.
Over that past 5 years both Tyrod & Philips were 2 games above .500
at the end of the day its about W/L.

So......i agree with you.......they probably are not going anywhere with Tyrod....but they also went nowhere special with Rivers......so....

[blueman]

Looking forward to a different signal caller!

[richpjr]

Forget stats.
And forget pundits who have not been on the sidelines.
And forget about the opinion of your good friend from NY who watches lots of games.

Rex Ryan former NFL HC & DC recently ripped Rivers.
He was asked about where Brady should go........to paraphrase...he said Chargers would be a perfect fit. Brady will do a lot of different things as QB to help them win and they have a lot of talent on that team and a great coach. Rex also said Brady isn't going to go 5O protection every play like Rivers and turn it over every other snap late in games. Yes Rex statement was hyperbole..but he was making his point about QB play.

lets bring back stats.
Wins & losses.
Over that past 5 years both Tyrod & Philips were 2 games above .500
at the end of the day its about W/L.

So......i agree with you.......they probably are not going anywhere with Tyrod....but they also went nowhere special with Rivers......so....

Rex also thought he'd have won multiple super bowls if he was out coach.

I understand why they moved on from Rivers (or Rivers moved on from the team as a recent article hinted), but it is time for a new QB, not a journeyman like Taylor. I just don't want to waste a year on Taylor unless we draft a QB that absolutely isn't ready to start.

[richpjr]

Looking forward to a different signal caller!

I really hope we don't draft Hurts but if we do, it will be an ironic switch of positions for me to be the one nitpicking every single thing our QB does wrong and you defending him!

[blueman]

I really hope we don't draft Hurts but if we do, it will be an ironic switch of positions for me to be the one nitpicking every single thing our QB does wrong and you defending him!

lol. But hey, as long as we’re winning I really don’t care!