*** Jaguars at Chargers Game Day Thread ***

[Formula 21]

Yes, I'm in the we miss Clary boat too.

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

Reyes had another decent game for what it's worth.

Don't care. Miss Clary. We're three and one man! What does it matter how good a good player played. Clary is down REPETE Clary is DOWN!

[Mister Hoarse]

One was probably yours, lol. Clary isnt , and never has been that good a player for us and MOST have wanted him gone or replaced. Now he is and only injuries have brought his name up. He isnt coming back this year and he isnt missed by many. Better?
We need another OG regardless if Clary is active or not because Troutman apparently isnt the answer and Clary hasnt been that great either. Fluker at RT is still an pgreade to Clary at RT. Clary stunk there. So maybe you miss Clary,..... i sure as fuck dont.....just like i dont miss Suckhurst.

Have you seen the O line play? We miss Clary.

[Mister Hoarse]

I was actually just being a dick about Stinky's spelling. Drink less, post less. Words I try, and fail, to live by.

Time to try and fail to live by this

[Mister Hoarse]

Yes, that idea was floated, but most of us rejected it because we didn't see back side pursuit constantly getting to our RBs on runs to the right. We usually got stopped on runs to the right because guys blocking on the right side didn't get the job done. Most of the time that meant Clary not run blocking well, but sometimes it was Fluker.

As I have explained many times, I think PFF grades are unreliable in general, but Clary is one of those rare cases where his performance was graded so badly against the run that Clary just about had to have been at least some bad against the run (unless you believe that PFF was more than net 21 points off in one direction over the season). Clary versus the run was the rare PFF grade that was more reliable for general direction because it was so extremely negative.

And, on the other side (where all of these supposed back side screw ups were happening) was Dunlap, who if memory serves, was more than +20 for the year (our best OL by a mile), who had a grade that, because it was so extreme (in the opposite direction) was also reliable as to direction.

So, the theory that was floated is likely not accurate. It's not impossible for PFF to have been more than net 20 off for each of these players, but it is highly unlikely.

Except that it was Dunlap who was awful at sealing the backside on runs to the right.
Time to seal this backsides

[RobH]

Except that it was Dunlap who was awful at sealing the backside on runs to the right.
Time to seal this backsides

I keep my backside sealed at all times. Lessin' of course, I gots to take a poop.

[Mister Hoarse]

There is no reason to do a sack dance, no reason to spike a ball, no reason for a receiver to simulate a first down signal on a catch, but as long as those moves are not directed directly at the opponent, there is no foul.

It was a bad call plain and simple, no matter how you slice it. The ref should have tried to follow the rules. They are there for a reason.

Yeppers

[Mister Hoarse]

Don't care. Miss Clary. We're three and one man! What does it matter how good a good player played. Clary is down REPETE Clary is DOWN!

W is the only stat that actually counts.

THREE DOUBLE EWES... AHH AHH AHHHHH!

[Mister Hoarse]

Time to gots to take this poops

[thelightningwill]

Miss Clary is hot.

[RobH]

Miss Clary is hot.

Pix or it ain't true.

[Panama]

I'm sorry I went to bed and missed all the drama in the "unsung hero" thread before it was closed. Fwiw, I think Oliver is a perfectly reasonable choice for unsung hero of the game, as his gutsy running especially on short receptions kept some drives alive. Not that we really needed it yesterday against the Jaguars secondary, but he did run tough and did his job, and it's precisely this sort of thing which we'll need against our next 3 opponents.

Also, and I mean no disrespect to any of the admins, but is it not possible not to close threads just because they get out of hand? Despite OIP's little rant, there were valid points by chris9341 and others I would have liked to have had the opportunity to respond to (without going rogue and posting in another thread). It's not the first time I've wanted to respond to something and couldn't because the thread was deemed too toxic to keep open. Just my 2 cents, I promise not to have a hissy fit about it either way. Thanks!