Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA - Discussion

[CivilBolt]

Still like JJ over Kelley.

I agree. Skill wise JJ beats Kelley. However, durability wise it is vice versa.

[chargeroo]

Just a few years ago we had a UDFA named Ekeler that we knew very little about. Then he showed up big time in the pre-season games and now he's our #1. Maybe we have a hidden gem in camp this year?

By the way, in the past, we've had good players that had injury problems for their first couple of years but turned out to be healthy after that. I hope that's the case with JJ because he is clearly a better back than Kelley.

[equivocation]

2021 Lindy's #1 RBs , 18ea.
Three #1s, Eight 2nds, Three 3rds, One 5th - Jones, One 7th- Carson, 2 CFAs,. Ekeler, Robinson.
14 from draft rounds 1-3, four later. There are always anomalies but this is a typical distribution.

I'm okay with a second, or a 3rd, on a dominant RB. You're probably only going to get a couple years, but that's okay for a 3rd. I'd like it more if Eke has another 5 good years in him.

Mathews and Gordon did not produce enough for a mid 1st pick. Not close.

[TexanBeerlover]

Just a few years ago we had a UDFA named Ekeler that we knew very little about. Then he showed up big time in the pre-season games and now he's our #1. Maybe we have a hidden gem in camp this year?

By the way, in the past, we've had good players that had injury problems for their first couple of years but turned out to be healthy after that. I hope that's the case with JJ because he is clearly a better back than Kelley.

UDFA make it on occasion but think odds decrease each round correspondingly. Seems more of a timing and team/system fit puzzle. Elite RB prospects should be fairly obvious for a capable scouting group. Which leads me to ask who has been the scout(s) mostly charged with the RB oversight from drafting pool? If it’s not any one scout, then it’s a collective group effort which points to TT.

[dmac_bolt]

Still like JJ over Kelley.

I’m not sure we have seen Kelley. If he’s the same as last year, I’ll agree. you’d need gale fucking sayers to gain any yards behind last year’s OL - I can surmise how that shit show would make any mid-talent rookie pensive and hesitant. Especially when you’re only getting a couple carries with a show it or sit down pressure, no TC, just weird year all around.

I’ll agree we ain’t seen it yet.

edit: not to beat on that dead OL thing, but I’ve watched football for 50 yrs, I have never in my life seen so many plays where 3 or 4 OL on the same play would all be standing around dumbfounded as defenders just ran past them. Watching those fools try to pull was a clown car in slow motion.

[wu-dai clan]

JJ and his skinny ass legs is the one real RB we have. Instincts. Change of direction. Vision. I studied a LOT of his tape at Northwestern, and see a world of potential.

Everyone else is either the very athletic Ekeler, or a sluggo.

If we get any dynamism from JJ, that frees up EK, and makes our offense even more dangerous.

[Topcat]

I’m not sure we have seen Kelley. If he’s the same as last year, I’ll agree. you’d need gale fucking sayers to gain any yards behind last year’s OL - I can surmise how that shit show would make any mid-talent rookie pensive and hesitant. Especially when you’re only getting a couple carries with a show it or sit down pressure, no TC, just weird year all around.

I’ll agree we ain’t seen it yet.

edit: not to beat on that dead OL thing, but I’ve watched football for 50 yrs, I have never in my life seen so many plays where 3 or 4 OL on the same play would all be standing around dumbfounded as defenders just ran past them. Watching those fools try to pull was a clown car in slow motion.

Yep...O-linemen like good old Tevi here from a few years back...on the bright side, he DID show some improvement last year...apparently not enough to keep him...

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[Bolt Dude]

I’d be shocked if JJ gets beat out by either Kelley or Roundtree. All I'm wondering is how fast the loser between Kelley/Roundtree gets poached off the practice squad.

We’ll need a 4th guy to be available because of the high injury potential of Ekeler and Jackson. That’s the argument for keeping 4 RBs on the 53.

Id feel better with Stick on the PS than Kelley/Roundtree.

[Topcat]

I’d be shocked if JJ gets beat out by either Kelley or Roundtree. All I'm wondering is how fast the loser between Kelley/Roundtree gets poached off the practice squad.

We’ll need a 4th guy to be available because of the high injury potential of Ekeler and Jackson. That’s the argument for keeping 4 RBs on the 53.

Id feel better with Stick on the PS than Kelley/Roundtree.

We can keep both Kelley and Roundtree if we send Nabers to PS, if he's eligible. The big question is, will Staley even use a FB much in his new offense? Would Nabers stick on the PS more than either Kelley or Roundtree? Agree that we need RB depth, especially given JJ's injury history...

[TexanBeerlover]

I’d be shocked if JJ gets beat out by either Kelley or Roundtree. All I'm wondering is how fast the loser between Kelley/Roundtree gets poached off the practice squad.

We’ll need a 4th guy to be available because of the high injury potential of Ekeler and Jackson. That’s the argument for keeping 4 RBs on the 53.

Id feel better with Stick on the PS than Kelley/Roundtree.

I think you hit on key component “injury potential” in fact a major reason they drafted Roundtree, his durability and ability to carry a heavy work load.

[Bolt Dude]

I think you hit on key component “injury potential” in fact a major reason they drafted Roundtree, his durability and ability to carry a heavy work load.

Right.

JJ’s injury prone, but he’s too damn good not to make the team.

Not sure we keep him, even if he plays the whole year injury-free, but he deserves the chance.

[like54ninjas]

I think you hit on key component “injury potential” in fact a major reason they drafted Roundtree, his durability and ability to carry a heavy work load.

JJacks had a monster college workload all 4 years with no injury concerns. Hopefully, his NFL luck has changed.