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Originally posted by like54ninjas View PostDropping this here in addition to the roster build thread....
After completing my season review, here is my current I’m the GM roster build.
Get out of the way TT/Johnboy.
LEGEND
(R) = rookie
(TC) = team captain
(M) = million
(G) = guaranteed
(SB) = signing bonus
(CH) = 2021 cap hit
Key Cuts / Trades
Casey Hayward ($8.75) - traded to Jags for pick 152 (round 5)
Trai Turner ($11.5)
Chris Harris Jr. ($11.25)
Key Unrestricted FA Lost
SupaMel ($16.65)
Mike Pouncey ($7.25)
Tyrod Taylor ($7.5)
VIrgil Green ($3.5)
Denzel Perryman ($7.5)
DSquare ($1.187)
Key Players Resigned / Contracts Restructured
Michael Davis - 5yr - ($60M)/$30G/$20SB/$7CH
Mike Williams - 4yr - ($44M)/$24G/$16SB/$7CH
Hunter Henry - 4yr -($40M)/$22G/$14SB/$6CH
Rayshawn Jenkins - 4yr - ($30M)/$16G/$12SB/$5CH
Sam Tevi - 2yr - ($9M)/$5G/$4SB/$3CH
Dan Feeney - 2yr - ($8M)/$4G/3SB/$3CH
Nick Vigil - 2yr - ($7M)/$3G/$2SB/$3CH
Iaasc Rochell - 1yr - ($2M)/$1.5G/$1SB/$1.5CH
Linval Joseph - 2yr - ($14M)/$11G/$8SB/$6CH
I resigned Tevi and Feeney because they graded out higher than Lamp in 2020. Both have significant starting experience. Ideally we drive them to backup depth.
* All RFA & ERFA will be resigned.
FA TARGETS
Dalvin Tomlinson (DT) - 5yr - ($60M)/$30G/$20SB/$8CH
Ted Karras (OC) - 4yr - ($36M)/$21G/$14SB/$6CH
Darqueze Dennard (CB) - 2yr - ($10M)/$6G/$4SB/$3CH
Fabian Moreau (CB) - 2yr - ($7M)/$3G/$3SB/$2,5CH
TOTAL 2021 Cap Space Used
$181,000,000.00 Projected
$162,865,000.00 USED
$18,135,000.00 Unused
I don’t expect a ton of FA spending with the reduction in projected cap space. A concentration in retaining our own and a few strategic targeted signings. After veterans get cut for cap space, it will be a buyers market for a final piece or two.
This would include the 2021 draft of.......
1) CALEB FARLEY - CB - VT - RJR - 6’2” / 207#
— #1 CB omb, fast, insane acceleration, elite ball skills, only 3 yrs as CB (former QB)
Why = PON, we need to be able to play M2M
2) WALKER LITTLE - OT - STAN - SR - 6’7” / 320#
— Big, physical, high football IQ, strong, powerful people mover, excellent footwork, hand placement needs consistency
Why = PON. Enough said. 1st round talent that slips because of COVID pandemic/opted out
3A) ALIM MCNEILL - DT - NCST - JR - 6’2” / 320#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, monster strong @ POA, amazing flexibility to get skinny, uproot opponents and collapses pocket
Why = Improve run D, collapses pocket, plays w/aggressive edge, makes us a more physical team
3B) ALARIC JACKSON - OT/OG - IOWA - RSR - 6’6” / 315# - (TC)
— Mauler with good feet, understands/uses great angles, serves pancakes in stacks, excellent length/uses it, nasty/drives opponents into the grass, plays thru whistle, needs time @ OG before sliding out to OT in year 3/4
Why = PON, see him as our ORG, ability to anchor which holds pocket depth, uproots defenders in run game.
4) JORDAN SMITH - DE - UAB - RJR - 6’7” / 255#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, strong @ POA, amazing flexibility and bend, length for days, can be a ST ace
Why = PON, Freak athlete, plays run/pass equally well, produces pressure consistently, steal this late
5A) RHAMONDRE STEVENSON - RB - OKU - SR - 6’ / 246#
— Power, vision, dynamic cutting ability, physical runner with 4.5 speed, ST Ace
Why = Need a bruising bigger RB, helps that he has vision/sweet footwork/dynamic cutting ability, excellent in passpro, good hands, ST help
5B) CHARLES SNOWDEN - EDGE/LB - UVA - SR - 6’7” / 245# - (TC)
— Smart, athletic , hard nosed football player. Shows flashes of brilliance in passrush and coverage, huge upside, year 2/3 before see full potential
Why = Major jumps from Sophomore to Senior campaigns, depth, huge upside as a pass rusher, ST help
6A) DIVINE DEABLO - DS/DLB - VT - RSR - 6’3” / 225# - (TC)
— Big, physical playmaker, added coverage chops for 3rd down, incredible H/W/S package, position flexibility, ST Ace
Why = depth, position versatility, ST help
6B) SADARIUS HUTCHERSON - OG - SC - RSR - 6’4” / 320# - (TC)
— Physical beast, possesses solid punch/hand technique in both run/pass games, experience at both OG spots and OLT
Why = PON. depth, physical bull with decent feet and solid technique
7) MIKE STRACHAN - WR - CHARLESTON (WV) - SR - 6’5” / 225# - (TC)
— NFL bloodline, high football IQ, huge catch radius, SPEED (Olympic caliber sprinter), physical, very raw, ST Ace
Why = Monster upside, speed/size combo, hard worker, ST help
Possible UDFA Targets -
Conner Olson (OC/OG) - UMN - RSR - 6’5” / 310#
Spencer Brown (RB) UAB - SR - 6’ / 220#, Garret Wallow (LB) TCU - SR - 6’2” / 230#,
Josh Imatorbhebhe (WR) UIL/USC - RSR - 6’2” / 215#, Zyon McCollum (CB) SHSU - SR - 6’4” / 195#
Zach Davidson (TE/P) UCM - RSR - 6’7” / 245#, Luke Farrell (TE) OHST - RSR - 6’6” / 250#
Qwynnterrio Cole (DS/DLB) ASU - SR - 6’3” / 200#, Grant Hermanns (OT) PUR - RSR - 6’7” / 310#,
Lorenzo Neal Jr. (DT) PUR - RSR - 6’3” / 325#, Shawn Davis (DS) UFL - SR - 5’11” / 190#
Caleb Huntley (RB) BSU - SR - 5’10” / 230#, Kenny Deng (LB/EDGE) CAL - RSR - 6’6” / 250#
Blake Hayes (P) UIL - SR - 6’6” / 215#, Riley Patterson (K) MEM - SR - 6’ / 190#
Michael Pitts (EDGE) UC - RSR - 6’4” / 250#, Zac Thomas (QB) APST - RSR - 6’1” / 210#
* Projected 53-Man Roster
OFFENSE (25)
QB - JH10, Easton Stick
RB - Austin Ekeler, Rhamondre Stevenson - (R), Joshua Kelly, Joe Reed
FB/HB - Gabe Nabers
WR - Keenan Allen, MikeDub, Jaylen Guyton, T. Johnson, J.K. Hill, Mike Strachan - (R)
TE - Hunter Henry, Donald Parham, Stephen Anderson
OT - Bryan Bulaga, Sam Tevi, Trey Pipkins, Walker Little - (R)
OG - Dan Feeney, Alaric Jackson - (R), Sadarius Hutcherson - (R)
OC - Ted Karras, Scott Quessenberry
Projected Starters Offense
QB - Justin Herbert
SKILL - Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jalen Guyton, Hunter Henry
OLINE - Walker Little - (R), Dan Feeney, Ted Karras, Alaric Jackson - (R), Bryan Bulaga
DEFENSE (25)
DL - Linval Joseph, Dalvin Tomlinson, Justin Jones, Alim McNeill - (R), Jerry Tillery, Joey Bosa, Isaac Rochell, Jordan Smith - (R)
EDGE/LB - Uchenna Nwosu, Charles Snowden - (R), Emeke Egbule
LB - Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill, Kyzir White, Nick Vigil
DB - Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Nasir Adderley, Mike Davis, Darqueze Dennard, Fabian Moreau, Caleb Farley - (R), Divine Deablo - (R), Alohi Gilman, Zyon McCollum - (R)
Projected Starters Defense
DLINE - Joey Bosa, Dalvin Tomlinson, Linval Joseph, Jordan Smith - (R)
LINEBACKERS - Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill
DBACKS - Mike Davis, Caleb Farley - (R), Fabian Moreau, Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins
PK - Mike Badgeley
PUNT - Blake Hayes - (R)
LS - Cole Mazza
Not sure if the Rookie Jordon Smith is ready to start at DE but maybe he and Nwosu can rotate.
Definitely an upgrade in the middle on D.
Maybe i missed it but what happened to Tillery?
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
That's quite a plan. Figuring out the cap hits and such is a hard part for me but that would be a nice haul.
Not sure if the Rookie Jordon Smith is ready to start at DE but maybe he and Nwosu can rotate.
Definitely an upgrade in the middle on D.
Maybe i missed it but what happened to Tillery?
Jordan Smith was a 4 - star recruit that signed with the UFL Gators but got caught up in a credit card fraud scheme, went JUCO, then UAB. Kid is legit. Tore up UTN in 2019. He’ll play in a platoon on the EDGE with Bosa, Nwosu, Rochell, Tillery, and Snowden.
I have Tillery as a PRS anywhere along the Dline.
I love our Dline via my plan.
Tomlinson, Joseph, Jones, McNeill (1 of my favorite prospects) as our DT rotation.
Bosa, Smith, Nwosu, Snowden as our EDGE rotation.
Tillery, Rochell as depth/injury replacements.
My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List
MikeDub
K9
Nasir
Tillery
Parham
Reed
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
The spotrac roster manager feature lets you play with under contract players, internal FA, outside FA to build the squad.
Jordan Smith was a 4 - star recruit that signed with the UFL Gators but got caught up in a credit card scheme, went JUCO, then UAB. Kid is legit. Tore up UTN in 2019. He’ll play in a platoon on the EDGE with Bosa, Nwosu, Rochell, Tillery, and Snowden.
I have Tillery as a PRS anywhere along the Dline.
I love our Dline via my plan.
Tomlinson, Joseph, Jones, McNeill (1 of my favorite prospects) as our DT rotation.
Bosa, Smith, Nwosu, Snowden as our EDGE rotation.
Tillery, Rochell as depth/injury replacements.
Deano says no.
Exactly why Jordan Smith is off my board.We do not play modern football.
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Originally posted by chargeroo View PostI appreciate all your hard work but I'll need more LB's
I am looking for young, late risers consequently--that is where value exists.
I happen to disagree with ninja's, and Nutty's for that matter, draft/personnel strategy, but that's fine.
BTW chargeroo, Monty Rice, Georgia, may be still available at late round three PR comp pick, and is an excellent coverage LB fwiw.
Jayon Smith (edit: Jayon Brown) of the Titans is a UFA who should be on our watch list in the same vein.Last edited by wu-dai clan; 01-09-2021, 01:16 PM.We do not play modern football.
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View PostDropping this here in addition to the roster build thread....
After completing my season review, here is my current I’m the GM roster build.
Get out of the way TT/Johnboy.
LEGEND
(R) = rookie
(TC) = team captain
(M) = million
(G) = guaranteed
(SB) = signing bonus
(CH) = 2021 cap hit
Key Cuts / Trades
Casey Hayward ($8.75) - traded to Jags for pick 152 (round 5)
Trai Turner ($11.5)
Chris Harris Jr. ($11.25)
Key Unrestricted FA Lost
SupaMel ($16.65)
Mike Pouncey ($7.25)
Tyrod Taylor ($7.5)
VIrgil Green ($3.5)
Denzel Perryman ($7.5)
DSquare ($1.187)
Key Players Resigned / Contracts Restructured
Michael Davis - 5yr - ($60M)/$30G/$20SB/$7CH
Mike Williams - 4yr - ($44M)/$24G/$16SB/$7CH
Hunter Henry - 4yr -($40M)/$22G/$14SB/$6CH
Rayshawn Jenkins - 4yr - ($30M)/$16G/$12SB/$5CH
Sam Tevi - 2yr - ($9M)/$5G/$4SB/$3CH
Dan Feeney - 2yr - ($8M)/$4G/3SB/$3CH
Nick Vigil - 2yr - ($7M)/$3G/$2SB/$3CH
Iaasc Rochell - 1yr - ($2M)/$1.5G/$1SB/$1.5CH
Linval Joseph - 2yr - ($14M)/$11G/$8SB/$6CH
I resigned Tevi and Feeney because they graded out higher than Lamp in 2020. Both have significant starting experience. Ideally we drive them to backup depth.
* All RFA & ERFA will be resigned.
FA TARGETS
Dalvin Tomlinson (DT) - 5yr - ($60M)/$30G/$20SB/$8CH
Ted Karras (OC) - 4yr - ($36M)/$21G/$14SB/$6CH
Darqueze Dennard (CB) - 2yr - ($10M)/$6G/$4SB/$3CH
Fabian Moreau (CB) - 2yr - ($7M)/$3G/$3SB/$2,5CH
TOTAL 2021 Cap Space Used
$181,000,000.00 Projected
$162,865,000.00 USED
$18,135,000.00 Unused
I don’t expect a ton of FA spending with the reduction in projected cap space. A concentration in retaining our own and a few strategic targeted signings. After veterans get cut for cap space, it will be a buyers market for a final piece or two.
This would include the 2021 draft of.......
1) CALEB FARLEY - CB - VT - RJR - 6’2” / 207#
— #1 CB omb, fast, insane acceleration, elite ball skills, only 3 yrs as CB (former QB)
Why = PON, we need to be able to play M2M
2) WALKER LITTLE - OT - STAN - SR - 6’7” / 320#
— Big, physical, high football IQ, strong, powerful people mover, excellent footwork, hand placement needs consistency
Why = PON. Enough said. 1st round talent that slips because of COVID pandemic/opted out
3A) ALIM MCNEILL - DT - NCST - JR - 6’2” / 320#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, monster strong @ POA, amazing flexibility to get skinny, uproot opponents and collapses pocket
Why = Improve run D, collapses pocket, plays w/aggressive edge, makes us a more physical team
3B) ALARIC JACKSON - OT/OG - IOWA - RSR - 6’6” / 315# - (TC)
— Mauler with good feet, understands/uses great angles, serves pancakes in stacks, excellent length/uses it, nasty/drives opponents into the grass, plays thru whistle, needs time @ OG before sliding out to OT in year 3/4
Why = PON, see him as our ORG, ability to anchor which holds pocket depth, uproots defenders in run game.
4) JORDAN SMITH - DE - UAB - RJR - 6’7” / 255#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, strong @ POA, amazing flexibility and bend, length for days, can be a ST ace
Why = PON, Freak athlete, plays run/pass equally well, produces pressure consistently, steal this late
5A) RHAMONDRE STEVENSON - RB - OKU - SR - 6’ / 246#
— Power, vision, dynamic cutting ability, physical runner with 4.5 speed, ST Ace
Why = Need a bruising bigger RB, helps that he has vision/sweet footwork/dynamic cutting ability, excellent in passpro, good hands, ST help
5B) CHARLES SNOWDEN - EDGE/LB - UVA - SR - 6’7” / 245# - (TC)
— Smart, athletic , hard nosed football player. Shows flashes of brilliance in passrush and coverage, huge upside, year 2/3 before see full potential
Why = Major jumps from Sophomore to Senior campaigns, depth, huge upside as a pass rusher, ST help
6A) DIVINE DEABLO - DS/DLB - VT - RSR - 6’3” / 225# - (TC)
— Big, physical playmaker, added coverage chops for 3rd down, incredible H/W/S package, position flexibility, ST Ace
Why = depth, position versatility, ST help
6B) SADARIUS HUTCHERSON - OG - SC - RSR - 6’4” / 320# - (TC)
— Physical beast, possesses solid punch/hand technique in both run/pass games, experience at both OG spots and OLT
Why = PON. depth, physical bull with decent feet and solid technique
7) MIKE STRACHAN - WR - CHARLESTON (WV) - SR - 6’5” / 225# - (TC)
— NFL bloodline, high football IQ, huge catch radius, SPEED (Olympic caliber sprinter), physical, very raw, ST Ace
Why = Monster upside, speed/size combo, hard worker, ST help
Possible UDFA Targets -
Conner Olson (OC/OG) - UMN - RSR - 6’5” / 310#
Spencer Brown (RB) UAB - SR - 6’ / 220#, Garret Wallow (LB) TCU - SR - 6’2” / 230#,
Josh Imatorbhebhe (WR) UIL/USC - RSR - 6’2” / 215#, Zyon McCollum (CB) SHSU - SR - 6’4” / 195#
Zach Davidson (TE/P) UCM - RSR - 6’7” / 245#, Luke Farrell (TE) OHST - RSR - 6’6” / 250#
Qwynnterrio Cole (DS/DLB) ASU - SR - 6’3” / 200#, Grant Hermanns (OT) PUR - RSR - 6’7” / 310#,
Lorenzo Neal Jr. (DT) PUR - RSR - 6’3” / 325#, Shawn Davis (DS) UFL - SR - 5’11” / 190#
Caleb Huntley (RB) BSU - SR - 5’10” / 230#, Kenny Deng (LB/EDGE) CAL - RSR - 6’6” / 250#
Blake Hayes (P) UIL - SR - 6’6” / 215#, Riley Patterson (K) MEM - SR - 6’ / 190#
Michael Pitts (EDGE) UC - RSR - 6’4” / 250#, Zac Thomas (QB) APST - RSR - 6’1” / 210#
* Projected 53-Man Roster
OFFENSE (25)
QB - JH10, Easton Stick
RB - Austin Ekeler, Rhamondre Stevenson - (R), Joshua Kelly, Joe Reed
FB/HB - Gabe Nabers
WR - Keenan Allen, MikeDub, Jaylen Guyton, T. Johnson, J.K. Hill, Mike Strachan - (R)
TE - Hunter Henry, Donald Parham, Stephen Anderson
OT - Bryan Bulaga, Sam Tevi, Trey Pipkins, Walker Little - (R)
OG - Dan Feeney, Alaric Jackson - (R), Sadarius Hutcherson - (R)
OC - Ted Karras, Scott Quessenberry
Projected Starters Offense
QB - Justin Herbert
SKILL - Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jalen Guyton, Hunter Henry
OLINE - Walker Little - (R), Dan Feeney, Ted Karras, Alaric Jackson - (R), Bryan Bulaga
DEFENSE (25)
DL - Linval Joseph, Dalvin Tomlinson, Justin Jones, Alim McNeill - (R), Jerry Tillery, Joey Bosa, Isaac Rochell, Jordan Smith - (R)
EDGE/LB - Uchenna Nwosu, Charles Snowden - (R), Emeke Egbule
LB - Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill, Kyzir White, Nick Vigil
DB - Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Nasir Adderley, Mike Davis, Darqueze Dennard, Fabian Moreau, Caleb Farley - (R), Divine Deablo - (R), Alohi Gilman, Zyon McCollum - (R)
Projected Starters Defense
DLINE - Joey Bosa, Dalvin Tomlinson, Linval Joseph, Jordan Smith - (R)
LINEBACKERS - Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill
DBACKS - Mike Davis, Caleb Farley - (R), Fabian Moreau, Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins
PK - Mike Badgeley
PUNT - Blake Hayes - (R)
LS - Cole Mazza
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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
Obvious red flag.
Deano says no.
Exactly why Jordan Smith is off my board.
He has admitted his mistake, suffered, showed internal fortitude, climbed back step by step, put in a ton of hard work.
This is still me as the GM not what I expect the Chargers to actually do.
My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List
MikeDub
K9
Nasir
Tillery
Parham
Reed
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Originally posted by chargeroo View PostI appreciate all your hard work but I'll need more LB's
EDGE/LB - Uchenna Nwosu, Charles Snowden - (R), Emeke Egbule
Derwin and Deablo will take LB snaps in certain sub-packages.My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List
MikeDub
K9
Nasir
Tillery
Parham
Reed
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
No room for youth to make a mistake?
He has admitted his mistake, suffered, showed internal fortitude, climbed back step by step, put in a ton of hard work.
This is still me as the GM not what I expect the Chargers to actually do.
However, there are different levels/types of youthful indiscretions.
For example, I touted red flagged Stephan Diggs predraft. No one else had him. Who cares about me substantiating my draft chops. The point is, what is the judgement call we make ?
Diggs was a tremendous midround value pick as everyone can clearly see now. His indiscretion ? Getting in an altercation at the pregame coin toss, out of hyper-competitiveness.
This is vs Jordan Smith with credit card fraud.
To not consider Charger front office factors, is to not be realistic.
It is fantasy football presented as real football takes in real draft threads. The rest of us SHOULD be challenging yours and Nutty's opinions, alongside your big contributions at TPB.We do not play modern football.
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[QUOTE=Boltjolt;n1167131]
That's quite a plan. Figuring out the cap hits and such is a hard part for me but that would be a nice haul.
Not sure if the Rookie Jordon Smith is ready to start at DE but maybe he and Nwosu can rotate.
Definitely an upgrade in the middle on D.
Really detailed job! I don't see cutting both Haywood or Harris, one stays. Also keep Square, good backup for reasonable price. Resign WR, Williams and green .keep Lamb, Draft OT, Edge. RB, /cb
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