2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

[Bolt4Knob]

So, if one of the top QB's are there grab him. Stack them up - 4/5 great QB's, never mind your needs! Take the bpa regardless?

good example!! as somebody else said - probably look to trade the pick

let me be clear - my message for this offseason is consistent: OT, IOL, DT, Edge and CB plus fixing ST
those above all else

[Bolt4Knob]

Dropping this here in addition to the roster build thread....



After completing my season review, here is my current I’m the GM roster build.
Get out of the way TT/Johnboy.

LEGEND
(R) = rookie
(TC) = team captain
(M) = million
(G) = guaranteed
(SB) = signing bonus
(CH) = 2021 cap hit


Key Cuts / Trades
Casey Hayward ($8.75) - traded to Jags for pick 152 (round 5)
Trai Turner ($11.5)
Chris Harris Jr. ($11.25)

Key Unrestricted FA Lost
SupaMel ($16.65)
Mike Pouncey ($7.25)
Tyrod Taylor ($7.5)
VIrgil Green ($3.5)
Denzel Perryman ($7.5)
DSquare ($1.187)

Key Players Resigned / Contracts Restructured
Michael Davis - 5yr - ($60M)/$30G/$20SB/$7CH
Mike Williams - 4yr - ($44M)/$24G/$16SB/$7CH
Hunter Henry - 4yr -($40M)/$22G/$14SB/$6CH
Rayshawn Jenkins - 4yr - ($30M)/$16G/$12SB/$5CH
Sam Tevi - 2yr - ($9M)/$5G/$4SB/$3CH
Dan Feeney - 2yr - ($8M)/$4G/3SB/$3CH
Nick Vigil - 2yr - ($7M)/$3G/$2SB/$3CH
Iaasc Rochell - 1yr - ($2M)/$1.5G/$1SB/$1.5CH
Linval Joseph - 2yr - ($14M)/$11G/$8SB/$6CH

I resigned Tevi and Feeney because they graded out higher than Lamp in 2020. Both have significant starting experience. Ideally we drive them to backup depth.

* All RFA & ERFA will be resigned.

FA TARGETS
Dalvin Tomlinson (DT) - 5yr - ($60M)/$30G/$20SB/$8CH
Ted Karras (OC) - 4yr - ($36M)/$21G/$14SB/$6CH
Darqueze Dennard (CB) - 2yr - ($10M)/$6G/$4SB/$3CH
Fabian Moreau (CB) - 2yr - ($7M)/$3G/$3SB/$2,5CH

TOTAL 2021 Cap Space Used
$181,000,000.00 Projected
$162,865,000.00 USED
$18,135,000.00 Unused

I don’t expect a ton of FA spending with the reduction in projected cap space. A concentration in retaining our own and a few strategic targeted signings. After veterans get cut for cap space, it will be a buyers market for a final piece or two.



This would include the 2021 draft of.......

1) CALEB FARLEY - CB - VT - RJR - 6’2” / 207#
— #1 CB omb, fast, insane acceleration, elite ball skills, only 3 yrs as CB (former QB)
Why = PON, we need to be able to play M2M
2) WALKER LITTLE - OT - STAN - SR - 6’7” / 320#
— Big, physical, high football IQ, strong, powerful people mover, excellent footwork, hand placement needs consistency
Why = PON. Enough said. 1st round talent that slips because of COVID pandemic/opted out
3A) ALIM MCNEILL - DT - NCST - JR - 6’2” / 320#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, monster strong @ POA, amazing flexibility to get skinny, uproot opponents and collapses pocket
Why = Improve run D, collapses pocket, plays w/aggressive edge, makes us a more physical team
3B) ALARIC JACKSON - OT/OG - IOWA - RSR - 6’6” / 315# - (TC)
— Mauler with good feet, understands/uses great angles, serves pancakes in stacks, excellent length/uses it, nasty/drives opponents into the grass, plays thru whistle, needs time @ OG before sliding out to OT in year 3/4
Why = PON, see him as our ORG, ability to anchor which holds pocket depth, uproots defenders in run game.
4) JORDAN SMITH - DE - UAB - RJR - 6’7” / 255#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, strong @ POA, amazing flexibility and bend, length for days, can be a ST ace
Why = PON, Freak athlete, plays run/pass equally well, produces pressure consistently, steal this late
5A) RHAMONDRE STEVENSON - RB - OKU - SR - 6’ / 246#
— Power, vision, dynamic cutting ability, physical runner with 4.5 speed, ST Ace
Why = Need a bruising bigger RB, helps that he has vision/sweet footwork/dynamic cutting ability, excellent in passpro, good hands, ST help
5B) CHARLES SNOWDEN - EDGE/LB - UVA - SR - 6’7” / 245# - (TC)
— Smart, athletic , hard nosed football player. Shows flashes of brilliance in passrush and coverage, huge upside, year 2/3 before see full potential
Why = Major jumps from Sophomore to Senior campaigns, depth, huge upside as a pass rusher, ST help
6A) DIVINE DEABLO - DS/DLB - VT - RSR - 6’3” / 225# - (TC)
— Big, physical playmaker, added coverage chops for 3rd down, incredible H/W/S package, position flexibility, ST Ace
Why = depth, position versatility, ST help
6B) SADARIUS HUTCHERSON - OG - SC - RSR - 6’4” / 320# - (TC)
— Physical beast, possesses solid punch/hand technique in both run/pass games, experience at both OG spots and OLT
Why = PON. depth, physical bull with decent feet and solid technique
7) MIKE STRACHAN - WR - CHARLESTON (WV) - SR - 6’5” / 225# - (TC)
— NFL bloodline, high football IQ, huge catch radius, SPEED (Olympic caliber sprinter), physical, very raw, ST Ace
Why = Monster upside, speed/size combo, hard worker, ST help


Possible UDFA Targets -
Conner Olson (OC/OG) - UMN - RSR - 6’5” / 310#
Spencer Brown (RB) UAB - SR - 6’ / 220#, Garret Wallow (LB) TCU - SR - 6’2” / 230#,
Josh Imatorbhebhe (WR) UIL/USC - RSR - 6’2” / 215#, Zyon McCollum (CB) SHSU - SR - 6’4” / 195#
Zach Davidson (TE/P) UCM - RSR - 6’7” / 245#, Luke Farrell (TE) OHST - RSR - 6’6” / 250#
Qwynnterrio Cole (DS/DLB) ASU - SR - 6’3” / 200#, Grant Hermanns (OT) PUR - RSR - 6’7” / 310#,
Lorenzo Neal Jr. (DT) PUR - RSR - 6’3” / 325#, Shawn Davis (DS) UFL - SR - 5’11” / 190#
Caleb Huntley (RB) BSU - SR - 5’10” / 230#, Kenny Deng (LB/EDGE) CAL - RSR - 6’6” / 250#
Blake Hayes (P) UIL - SR - 6’6” / 215#, Riley Patterson (K) MEM - SR - 6’ / 190#
Michael Pitts (EDGE) UC - RSR - 6’4” / 250#, Zac Thomas (QB) APST - RSR - 6’1” / 210#


* Projected 53-Man Roster

OFFENSE (25)
QB - JH10, Easton Stick
RB - Austin Ekeler, Rhamondre Stevenson - (R), Joshua Kelly, Joe Reed
FB/HB - Gabe Nabers
WR - Keenan Allen, MikeDub, Jaylen Guyton, T. Johnson, J.K. Hill, Mike Strachan - (R)
TE - Hunter Henry, Donald Parham, Stephen Anderson
OT - Bryan Bulaga, Sam Tevi, Trey Pipkins, Walker Little - (R)
OG - Dan Feeney, Alaric Jackson - (R), Sadarius Hutcherson - (R)
OC - Ted Karras, Scott Quessenberry

Projected Starters Offense
QB - Justin Herbert
SKILL - Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jalen Guyton, Hunter Henry
OLINE - Walker Little - (R), Dan Feeney, Ted Karras, Alaric Jackson - (R), Bryan Bulaga

DEFENSE (25)
DL - Linval Joseph, Dalvin Tomlinson, Justin Jones, Alim McNeill - (R), Jerry Tillery, Joey Bosa, Isaac Rochell, Jordan Smith - (R)
EDGE/LB - Uchenna Nwosu, Charles Snowden - (R), Emeke Egbule
LB - Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill, Kyzir White, Nick Vigil
DB - Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Nasir Adderley, Mike Davis, Darqueze Dennard, Fabian Moreau, Caleb Farley - (R), Divine Deablo - (R), Alohi Gilman, Zyon McCollum - (R)

Projected Starters Defense
DLINE - Joey Bosa, Dalvin Tomlinson, Linval Joseph, Jordan Smith - (R)
LINEBACKERS - Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill
DBACKS - Mike Davis, Caleb Farley - (R), Fabian Moreau, Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins

PK - Mike Badgeley
PUNT - Blake Hayes - (R)
LS - Cole Mazza

This is good work. I am not sure of all the moves from the cap - thats pretty aggressive but I think a lot of it is doable

Thanks for putting together

[chargeroo]

Did you miss these?

EDGE/LB - Uchenna Nwosu, Charles Snowden - (R), Emeke Egbule

Derwin and Deablo will take LB snaps in certain sub-packages.

Yes I did. That makes me happy.

[powderblueboy]

[QUOTE=like54ninjas;n1167108]Dropping this here in addition to the roster build thread....



This would include the 2021 draft of.......

1) CALEB FARLEY - CB - VT - RJR - 6’2” / 207#
— #1 CB omb, fast, insane acceleration, elite ball skills, only 3 yrs as CB (former QB)
Why = PON, we need to be able to play M2M
2) WALKER LITTLE - OT - STAN - SR - 6’7” / 320#
— Big, physical, high football IQ, strong, powerful people mover, excellent footwork, hand placement needs consistency
Why = PON. Enough said. 1st round talent that slips because of COVID pandemic/opted out
3A) ALIM MCNEILL - DT - NCST - JR - 6’2” / 320#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, monster strong @ POA, amazing flexibility to get skinny, uproot opponents and collapses pocket
Why = Improve run D, collapses pocket, plays w/aggressive edge, makes us a more physical team
3B) ALARIC JACKSON - OT/OG - IOWA - RSR - 6’6” / 315# - (TC)
— Mauler with good feet, understands/uses great angles, serves pancakes in stacks, excellent length/uses it, nasty/drives opponents into the grass, plays thru whistle, needs time @ OG before sliding out to OT in year 3/4
Why = PON, see him as our ORG, ability to anchor which holds pocket depth, uproots defenders in run game.
4) JORDAN SMITH - DE - UAB - RJR - 6’7” / 255#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, strong @ POA, amazing flexibility and bend, length for days, can be a ST ace
Why = PON, Freak athlete, plays run/pass equally well, produces pressure consistently, steal this late
5A) RHAMONDRE STEVENSON - RB - OKU - SR - 6’ / 246#
— Power, vision, dynamic cutting ability, physical runner with 4.5 speed, ST Ace
Why = Need a bruising bigger RB, helps that he has vision/sweet footwork/dynamic cutting ability, excellent in passpro, good hands, ST help
5B) CHARLES SNOWDEN - EDGE/LB - UVA - SR - 6’7” / 245# - (TC)
— Smart, athletic , hard nosed football player. Shows flashes of brilliance in passrush and coverage, huge upside, year 2/3 before see full potential
Why = Major jumps from Sophomore to Senior campaigns, depth, huge upside as a pass rusher, ST help
6A) DIVINE DEABLO - DS/DLB - VT - RSR - 6’3” / 225# - (TC)
— Big, physical playmaker, added coverage chops for 3rd down, incredible H/W/S package, position flexibility, ST Ace
Why = depth, position versatility, ST help
6B) SADARIUS HUTCHERSON - OG - SC - RSR - 6’4” / 320# - (TC)
— Physical beast, possesses solid punch/hand technique in both run/pass games, experience at both OG spots and OLT
Why = PON. depth, physical bull with decent feet and solid technique
7) MIKE STRACHAN - WR - CHARLESTON (WV) - SR - 6’5” / 225# - (TC)
— NFL bloodline, high football IQ, huge catch radius, SPEED (Olympic caliber sprinter), physical, very raw, ST Ace
Why = Monster upside, speed/size combo, hard worker, ST help



No one really stands out to me at pick #13. I think i prefer Walker Little in the 2nd to any Oline available at #13

Briefly checked out Alim McNeill....Ninja just finds these guys.

I'll probably go through Jackson, Smith and Stevenson later.

[AK47]

okay - if you can get three OL and DL - Pitts works for me!!

As I agree, you cannot reach in the first round when the best players are there. In the 5th its fine to go for need unless somebody really drops but in the first, really just trust your board and if the talent gap is there - take the talent.

B4K, was it you that talked us into grabbing TE Pitts? I said no but now considering everything I think........err I would not be surprised if we got Pitts. I actually would not be mad. Let me preface that logically I think we need to build our trenches to get tougher. That out of the way:

-From BPA perspective, may be a top 10 talent of the draft.
-From Chargers history, we're a premier destination for great TEs destined from greatness.
-SB winning teams pile on their strengths. Just because we have weapons should not stop us from getting even deadlier ones. Arms race!!!
-Okay I was lazy at first but damn...matchup nightmare is an understatement. *I thought I was watching a WR dominating CBs. It was a freaking TE dominating LBs and CBs lol*
-Minimum dual threat of Pitts/Parham or Pitts/Henry is probably the best TE duo in the NFL.
-We can let Henry walk, use that money towards getting o-line talent
-Would be the new age Rivers/Gates combo.
-Have little confidence in TT drafting OT this high. Its like he's cursed with drafting o-line. He's blessed on hitting on Pro-bowl caliber playmakers though.
-Dominated in SEC.
-Not raw, has some seasoned skills that allows him to be NFL ready. Will get better at NFL level.

[Boltnut]

Nice job, Ninja! You obviously put a lot of work into your research. You and I see eye-to-eye on our needs. I prefer to get a pass rusher a little earlier than you... and I see the need to get a good cover LB... but lots of good hits on your list. I like the idea of moving Alaric Jackson to OG.

[Boltjolt]

I think everybody is up on our needs while some have a different spin on them than others.
I dont think id have the patience to use the Spotrac Cap calculator but ive never tried to either. Great detailed job. Hec just typing that out using bold and such is a pain lol.

[Critty]

I believe a minimum of 2 QBs will be picked in the top 12.

Who are your top 11 non QB players in order?

BPA of that group of 11 should be the pick#13.

[Boltjolt]

If you are refering to me.....

1. Sewell
2. Parsons
3. Chase
4. Smith
5. Surtain
6. Farley
7. Waddle
8. Davis
9. Slater
10. Pitts
11. Bateman

Or trade down depending how it goes. Paye and Rousseau may go before some of these guys but i dont prefer Paye in the first @ 13 for us and dont like Rousseau in the first. I wouldnt pick Smith or Waddle over Bateman for us as they are too slight of build which i tend to avoid, ....and we dont draft slight of build WRs. Tyron Johnson is our lightest WR at 193 lbs.

So who i have dont really matter for who we will or should draft. I think 3 or 4 QBs will go ahead of us and i hope so. Not a fan of Lance or Wilson that high but i dont care as we dont need a QB now lol.

[chargerkdb]

[QUOTE=powderblueboy;n1167248]

Dropping this here in addition to the roster build thread....



This would include the 2021 draft of.......

1) CALEB FARLEY - CB - VT - RJR - 6’2” / 207#
— #1 CB omb, fast, insane acceleration, elite ball skills, only 3 yrs as CB (former QB)
Why = PON, we need to be able to play M2M
2) WALKER LITTLE - OT - STAN - SR - 6’7” / 320#
— Big, physical, high football IQ, strong, powerful people mover, excellent footwork, hand placement needs consistency
Why = PON. Enough said. 1st round talent that slips because of COVID pandemic/opted out
3A) ALIM MCNEILL - DT - NCST - JR - 6’2” / 320#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, monster strong @ POA, amazing flexibility to get skinny, uproot opponents and collapses pocket
Why = Improve run D, collapses pocket, plays w/aggressive edge, makes us a more physical team
3B) ALARIC JACKSON - OT/OG - IOWA - RSR - 6’6” / 315# - (TC)
— Mauler with good feet, understands/uses great angles, serves pancakes in stacks, excellent length/uses it, nasty/drives opponents into the grass, plays thru whistle, needs time @ OG before sliding out to OT in year 3/4
Why = PON, see him as our ORG, ability to anchor which holds pocket depth, uproots defenders in run game.
4) JORDAN SMITH - DE - UAB - RJR - 6’7” / 255#
— Finisher, plays in opponents backfield, strong @ POA, amazing flexibility and bend, length for days, can be a ST ace
Why = PON, Freak athlete, plays run/pass equally well, produces pressure consistently, steal this late
5A) RHAMONDRE STEVENSON - RB - OKU - SR - 6’ / 246#
— Power, vision, dynamic cutting ability, physical runner with 4.5 speed, ST Ace
Why = Need a bruising bigger RB, helps that he has vision/sweet footwork/dynamic cutting ability, excellent in passpro, good hands, ST help
5B) CHARLES SNOWDEN - EDGE/LB - UVA - SR - 6’7” / 245# - (TC)
— Smart, athletic , hard nosed football player. Shows flashes of brilliance in passrush and coverage, huge upside, year 2/3 before see full potential
Why = Major jumps from Sophomore to Senior campaigns, depth, huge upside as a pass rusher, ST help
6A) DIVINE DEABLO - DS/DLB - VT - RSR - 6’3” / 225# - (TC)
— Big, physical playmaker, added coverage chops for 3rd down, incredible H/W/S package, position flexibility, ST Ace
Why = depth, position versatility, ST help
6B) SADARIUS HUTCHERSON - OG - SC - RSR - 6’4” / 320# - (TC)
— Physical beast, possesses solid punch/hand technique in both run/pass games, experience at both OG spots and OLT
Why = PON. depth, physical bull with decent feet and solid technique
7) MIKE STRACHAN - WR - CHARLESTON (WV) - SR - 6’5” / 225# - (TC)
— NFL bloodline, high football IQ, huge catch radius, SPEED (Olympic caliber sprinter), physical, very raw, ST Ace
Why = Monster upside, speed/size combo, hard worker, ST help



No one really stands out to me at pick #13. I think i prefer Walker Little in the 2nd to any Oline available at #13

Briefly checked out Alim McNeill....Ninja just finds these guys.

I'll probably go through Jackson, Smith and Stevenson later.

Big Hokie fan here. Divine Deablo, hell yes!! not just a cool name but because he’s a gamer with Kam Chancellor (another Hokie) measurables. If I had to choose between Darrisaw and Farley I would take Darrisaw. I think both will do well in NFL. Darrisaw could be our LT for 10 years of course if TT drafts him he will probably start to suck....haha

[21&500]

Darrisaw looks like a real LOT
vs tall guards that play LOT
I’ll be fine with him at 13

[wu-dai clan]

Kiper now projects QB#4 Mac Jones (after Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Zach Wilson) to go mid round 1, say @ #15 to NE.

Hmmm. This has the potential to create an opportunity for us, meaning someone may want to jump NE and trade up with us for Jones. Maybe we can even squeeze a round 2 from NE to move up two spots.