Your First 3 rounds 2021

[Lone Bolt]

My first three rounds as of right now look like this (assuming Sewell and Parsons are not on the board--Parsons is too good to pass on if he is on the board):

1--Christian Darrishaw (not great value, but a big positional need)
2--Creed Humphrey
3A--Tyler Shelvin (much needed new J Wall if we go back to the 3-4)
3B--Daniel Faalele (not 100% sure he is entering the draft, but I like him as a right tackle selection)

It would be great if we could trade back, still get Darrishaw and pick up a 2nd or third round pick in the process.

I like Jordan Smith in round 4/5. I think he would have good value there. I do not see him as a great value in rounds 2-3.

Not a big Darrisaw fan...but if we got him in a trade back scenario, I suppose I could accept the additional pick(s) as a consolation prize..:biggrin:

[Guest]

Not bad.
I don’t hold Darrisaw in the same light as most but trading back to acquire him is a solid strategy.
Love Creed in 2 but doubt he makes it out of 1.
Faalele isn’t coming out. I like him for us in 2022..

I do not love any of the possible first round OLs except Sewell. I see Slater as Forrest Lamp II (tweener that lacks the length for an NFL OT, but may struggle to shift to OG). Cosmi seems like a late 1st/early 2nd player. Leatherwood is probably a second round player. I do not love taking an OG at #13, so that rules out Davis. I agree that we would be fortunate to get Humphrey at 2/47, but he is not worth #13 overall. So far, I like Darrishaw the most, but I am far from locked into any sort of belief that that is the best choice.

That said, I also am not 100% sold on the likely early CBs. I think they are good, but are they really 1/13 type players?

I am not sold on Rousseau as a guy who wins quickly. I see him as a guy who is very good at cleaning up other people's pressures because of his tremendous length. With Bosa and a pocket collapsing NT or DTs, that might actually fit really well, but is a "Robin" to Bosa's Batman (a longer Shaun Phillips) really worth 1/13? I do not see him that way.

I think Pitts is completely worth 1/13, but if we keep Henry, just how many receiving TEs are we really going to have? There is no way that I would want us to move on from Parham. I guess moving on from Anderson would be okay. But what about the OL? This is one of those cases where BPA and PON really seem to conflict.

I love Parsons and he seems to fall a lot in the simulated drafts, but what I notice about those simulated drafts is that if we do not go OL early, then it gets difficult to secure the kind of OL upgrades that most of us are hoping happen. Still, I would not pass on Parsons at #13.

Thoughts?

[like54ninjas]

I do not love any of the possible first round OLs except Sewell. I see Slater as Forrest Lamp II (tweener that lacks the length for an NFL OT, but may struggle to shift to OG). Cosmi seems like a late 1st/early 2nd player. Leatherwood is probably a second round player. I do not love taking an OG at #13, so that rules out Davis. I agree that we would be fortunate to get Humphrey at 2/47, but he is not worth #13 overall. So far, I like Darrishaw the most, but I am far from locked into any sort of belief that that is the best choice.

That said, I also am not 100% sold on the likely early CBs. I think they are good, but are they really 1/13 type players?

I am not sold on Rousseau as a guy who wins quickly. I see him as a guy who is very good at cleaning up other people's pressures because of his tremendous length. With Bosa and a pocket collapsing NT or DTs, that might actually fit really well, but is a "Robin" to Bosa's Batman (a longer Shaun Phillips) really worth 1/13? I do not see him that way.

I think Pitts is completely worth 1/13, but if we keep Henry, just how many receiving TEs are we really going to have? There is no way that I would want us to move on from Parham. I guess moving on from Anderson would be okay. But what about the OL? This is one of those cases where BPA and PON really seem to conflict.

I love Parsons and he seems to fall a lot in the simulated drafts, but what I notice about those simulated drafts is that if we do not go OL early, then it gets difficult to secure the kind of OL upgrades that most of us are hoping happen. Still, I would not pass on Parsons at #13.

Thoughts?

My board doesn’t look like most. I think most is spot on. Where I differ a bit......

Slater is my #1 IOL prospect and worth #13. I compare him as a more explosive/athletic Zack Martin.

Pitts could be a big WR or move TE and replace MikeDub.

We won’t sniff Parson at #13.

[Lone Bolt]

I do not love any of the possible first round OLs except Sewell. I see Slater as Forrest Lamp II (tweener that lacks the length for an NFL OT, but may struggle to shift to OG). Cosmi seems like a late 1st/early 2nd player. Leatherwood is probably a second round player. I do not love taking an OG at #13, so that rules out Davis. I agree that we would be fortunate to get Humphrey at 2/47, but he is not worth #13 overall. So far, I like Darrishaw the most, but I am far from locked into any sort of belief that that is the best choice.

That said, I also am not 100% sold on the likely early CBs. I think they are good, but are they really 1/13 type players?

I am not sold on Rousseau as a guy who wins quickly. I see him as a guy who is very good at cleaning up other people's pressures because of his tremendous length. With Bosa and a pocket collapsing NT or DTs, that might actually fit really well, but is a "Robin" to Bosa's Batman (a longer Shaun Phillips) really worth 1/13? I do not see him that way.

I think Pitts is completely worth 1/13, but if we keep Henry, just how many receiving TEs are we really going to have? There is no way that I would want us to move on from Parham. I guess moving on from Anderson would be okay. But what about the OL? This is one of those cases where BPA and PON really seem to conflict.

I love Parsons and he seems to fall a lot in the simulated drafts, but what I notice about those simulated drafts is that if we do not go OL early, then it gets difficult to secure the kind of OL upgrades that most of us are hoping happen. Still, I would not pass on Parsons at #13.

Thoughts?

For me, there are several players that have to be gone, before I would select Pitts...but I have no problem with him and Henry on the same roster. I really don't view him as a true TE, though he may line up inside from time to time...I think he will spend the majority of his snaps flexed outside.

Again...I am hopeful there will be an olineman or blue chip defender worthy of the 13th pick...if not, and Pitts is there, however, would have no problem picking him...I bet Herbie will find him plenty useful, wherever he lines up.

[Boltjolt]

I wouldnt draft Pitts at 13, if he is the best left at 13, it's trade down time. Not drafting Darrisaw there either.

In fact I'm not drafting him in the first round. Cosmi I'd maybe pick at #13 but would rather trade down to do it but I'd pick him over Darrisaw.

[wu-dai clan]

Pitts is still a unicorn prospect, people.

I say we are better off with Pitts + Green + Parham + cap space,
than with Henry + MWilliams.

Convince me I am wrong.

[like54ninjas]

Pitts is still a unicorn prospect, people.

I say we are better off with Pitts + Green + Parham + cap space,
than with Henry + MWilliams.

Convince me I am wrong.

Pitts has yet to play a down in the NFL. Talent unquestionably. Toughness questionable. Limited body of work. Projection not proven.
Green is old, very limited receiving threat, declining physically, needs limited snaps.
Parham is very raw but is an ascending player. Limited snaps/production and unproven physicality.

[Lone Bolt]

Pitts is still a unicorn prospect, people.

I say we are better off with Pitts + Green + Parham + cap space,
than with Henry + MWilliams.

Convince me I am wrong.

There is no true combo TE on your roster...Pitts isn't a blocker, Green isn't a receiving threat, and may be done altogether, Parham still proving what he can do...

Williams, take him or leave him. I like him, but he is no world beater.

So...half wrong? Or half convinced?

What about Steven A.?

I don't think Henry/Williams will be financially unreasonable to sign...not in this cap reduced market...who will drive up the price? People say NE for Henry, but they have space because they don't go cannon balling in the FA pool to begin with...

We know our own...rather keep them than create more needs pre-draft.

[wu-dai clan]

There is no true combo TE on your roster...Pitts isn't a blocker, Green isn't a receiving threat, and may be done altogether, Parham still proving what he can do...

Williams, take him or leave him. I like him, but he is no world beater.

So...half wrong? Or half convinced?

What about Steven A.?

I don't think Henry/Williams will be financially unreasonable to sign...not in this cap reduced market...who will drive up the price? People say NE for Henry, but they have space because they don't go cannon balling in the FA pool to begin with...

We know our own...rather keep them than create more needs pre-draft.

I did not mention Steven A because he's no "Combo TE" as you say. :biggrin:

Green is our In Line TE.

I am not discarding HH or MDavis,
only recognizing market forces.

I want to invest in an OL anchor and they are expensive.

Pitts brings a lot to the table, especially in combination with Allen and Ekeler.

I expect Tyreek, Kelce and Clyde to have TB's great D for lunch on Sunday.

There's our template.

[Lone Bolt]

I did not mention Steven A because he's no "Combo TE" as you say. :biggrin:

Green is our In Line TE.

I am not discarding HH or MDavis,
only recognizing market forces.

I want to invest in an OL anchor and they are expensive.

Pitts brings a lot to the table, especially in combination with Allen and Ekeler.

I expect Tyreek, Kelce and Clyde to have TB's great D for lunch on Sunday.

There's our template.

Lol....can't fool me, Wood...you always get romanced by those sparkling skill players in the first...no boring ol' Beef for you...

So you shine up those second tier prospects, throw a blanket over their question marks, and trot them out on day 2, saying "See? Problem solved!!"

For shame, for shame, for shame....

[wu-dai clan]

Maybe.
February 1 is the beginning
of Liar's Months too yanno.

[Boltjolt]

There is no true combo TE on your roster...Pitts isn't a blocker, Green isn't a receiving threat, and may be done altogether, Parham still proving what he can do...

Williams, take him or leave him. I like him, but he is no world beater.

So...half wrong? Or half convinced?

What about Steven A.?

I don't think Henry/Williams will be financially unreasonable to sign...not in this cap reduced market...who will drive up the price? People say NE for Henry, but they have space because they don't go cannon balling in the FA pool to begin with...

We know our own...rather keep them than create more needs pre-draft.

Agree. Lets be honest. The only reason we would want Pitts over MW is he would be cheaper. He isnt the TE Henry is and i dont think he is going to be faster than MW. He has a place, but i dont think it is here.
Sign HH which to me is a big deal for our team. Sign MW to a 3 or 4 year deal. Of the two i think Henry should be signed but i believe TT will find a way to keep both. I see people on teh Webs saying Henry isnt worth even 7 million (idiots) because he hasnt had big stats like Kelce but again when Keenan is your #1 getting 150 targets, spreading the others out between MW, Henry and the RBs and other WRs isnt going to net them big stats.

Kelce is Mahomes most targeted reciever and why he gets the big stats. The last three seasons with Mahomes Kelce has had 150, 136 and 145 targets having Keenan Allen type seasons.