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Originally posted by BoltUp InLA View PostThanks for sharing! I finally got around to some of his highlights.. impressive athlete! I especially like the way he strips at the ball. The only negative I have found on him is that he is slow transitioning in man coverage. I do not even know if this is fixable with improved technique or if it’s a physical thing.
With that said, he certainly brings energy and high level athleticism to that position otherwise it seems.
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
OR the.........
..... only 5 PD in 27 games played for Trill
.....14 turnovers produced by Cisco in 24 games. Those happened.
I like Trill just think he is @ day 3 guy
There are other factors to consider as well which make me like Trill. Cisco is trying to make a lot of big plays and he does but also gets beat.
Cisco
Allowed 57% completion
Allowed 9TDs Missed 20% of his tackles.
And rarely line up in the box.
Occasionally line up at slot.
13 Int and 2 forced fumbles.
He scored 1 TD.
Trill
Allowed 51% completion
Allowed 2 TDs
Missed 13% of his tackles.
Line up in the slot about 60%
Played man coverage 44% of his snaps.
4 interceptions and 3 forced fumbles.
Scored 2TDs
And a punt return TD.
So I consider Trill a more consistent net positive defender. I want to know what I'm getting game to game and play to play.
Cisco is a playmaker but give up a lot of big plays too. And since he didn't do a lot of box work. Misses 20% of tackles and gives up TDs spying and being too aggressive. It's like he cancels out a lot of his big plays with his bad football. So he seems like he will be a player where you go yes nice and then no damn it.
Who has it better than us?
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Originally posted by Critty View Post
I hear you.
There are other factors to consider as well which make me like Trill. Cisco is trying to make a lot of big plays and he does but also gets beat.
Cisco
Allowed 57% completion
Allowed 9TDs Missed 20% of his tackles.
And rarely line up in the box.
Occasionally line up at slot.
13 Int and 2 forced fumbles.
He scored 1 TD.
Trill
Allowed 51% completion
Allowed 2 TDs
Missed 13% of his tackles.
Line up in the slot about 60%
Played man coverage 44% of his snaps.
4 interceptions and 3 forced fumbles.
Scored 2TDs
And a punt return TD.
So I consider Trill a more consistent net positive defender. I want to know what I'm getting game to game and play to play.
Cisco is a playmaker but give up a lot of big plays too. And since he didn't do a lot of box work. Misses 20% of tackles and gives up TDs spying and being too aggressive. It's like he cancels out a lot of his big plays with his bad football. So he seems like he will be a player where you go yes nice and then no damn it.
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As for what your getting, that's college. We hope we are getting a lot of potential and growth in both....with every player you draft.
Now there are some good safeties and CBs in this draft,... More so CBs and I like those guys but there are others I like better. However if we ended up with either, that would be cool too.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Interesting stats. Where did you find them?
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As for what your getting, that's college. We hope we are getting a lot of potential and growth in both....with every player you draft.
Now there are some good safeties and CBs in this draft,... More so CBs and I like those guys but there are others I like better. However if we ended up with either, that would be cool too.
Think it's a deep draft for corners.
The stats are from sports solutions.
As you know the game film is always best place to look.
Who has it better than us?
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
On the other hand, if Pitts is that good, maybe some other team picks him ahead of us...with all the QB's and wideouts also probably going in top 12, that pushes some nice O-line and D-line talent down to us...
:horsepiss:
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Originally posted by Grinners View Post
I read somewhere that several teams were considering Trill Williams at Safety. He can play several positions as a DB.
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Originally posted by BoltUp InLA View Post
The more I think, the more I like that thought of him being a versatile DB piece that Staley can use. His open field tackling and stripping might be a great fit at Safety in this new scheme! He is such a high energy / effort guy, it is hard to imagine an athlete of his caliber not finding a role in this defense.
Ekeler was a udfa. But in hindsight should have been drafted in Rd 3. He played special teams then move up RB depth chart. Prove he can catch it too. The more a player can do the better chance he can get on the field somewhere and help the team win games.
Who has it better than us?
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I just noticed Rueter's 4 round mock...so if already posted and discussed, sorry. Really like the sum of the parts here...very nice draft, with a mixture of some of my favorite players, and box checking for needs with the last 2 picks...
1. Rashawn Slater OT
2. Pat Freiermuth TE
3a. Josh Meyers OC
3b. Kelvin Joseph CB
4. Hamilcar Rashed Edge
Edit: Looking closer, if the draft went the way Reuter says, we coulda had this...
1. Rashawn Slater OT/OG/OC
2. Pat Freiermuth TE
3a. Eric Stokes CB
3b. Walker Little OT
4. Hamilcar Rashed DE
I think a lot of fans on here would be happy with that...alas, it's a fantasy. No way it goes like that, lol...that looks like a draft machine result...
Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB
Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT
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Originally posted by Lone Bolt View PostI just noticed Rueter's 4 round mock...so if already posted and discussed, sorry. Really like the sum of the parts here...very nice draft, with a mixture of some of my favorite players, and box checking for needs with the last 2 picks...
1. Rashawn Slater OT
2. Pat Freiermuth TE
3a. Josh Meyers OC
3b. Kelvin Joseph CB
4. Hamilcar Rashed Edge
Edit: Looking closer, if the draft went the way Reuter says, we coulda had this...
1. Rashawn Slater OT/OG/OC
2. Pat Freiermuth TE
3a. Eric Stokes CB
3b. Walker Little OT
4. Hamilcar Rashed DE
I think a lot of fans on here would be happy with that...alas, it's a fantasy. No way it goes like that, lol...that looks like a draft machine result...
I saw his mock but didnt look at it that close to see what better options are there instead of him but im sure there were.
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Here's the first 14 picks of Reuter's 4.0 mock:
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reuter 3.JPG
https://www.nfl.com/news/four-round-...-qb-in-round-1Attached Files
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