Day 2 NFL Draft 2021 - Conclusion

[Cdn Bolt]

It’s not spin. It was considered a bigger need than edge by many.

Not Draftek where it was not a starter level need - EDGE was though . It was a lower rated need in Sporting News CBS too.

[Leslie Grossman]

Round 4 pick 15 Who ya got?

Cluster

Nixon DT
Tufele DT
Weaver Edge
Roche Edge
Ogundeji Edge
E Smith Edge
J Smith Edge
Rashed Jr Edge
Sample Edge
Togiai DT
Twyman DT
Bynum CB
Brown G
Smith G

Round 5 Cluster

Rhamondre Stevenson RB, Oklahoma
Michael Carter RB, NC
Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri
Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State
Kenneth Gainwell RB Memphis
Stone Forsythe, OT, Florida
James Hudson OT Cincy
Marvin Wilson, DT, Florida State
Bobby Brown III, DT, Texas A&M
Cary Vincent CB, LSU
Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State
Tre Brown CB, Oklahoma
Thomas Graham Jr CB, Oregon St
Marlon Tuipulotu DT, USC

[Velo]

I was just reviewing ESPN's pre-draft rankings of the 2017 draft. Patrick Mahomes was ranked No. 52 and when the Chiefs traded up to No. 10 draft him many considered it a pretty major reach. I'm just saying that pre-draft rankings always turn out to be way off in predicting who is going to succeed in the NFL. Just for another example, OJ Howard was ranked the No. 6 best player and top TE in the 2017 draft. Howard was drafted No. 19, the first TE off the board, by the Bucs. Meanwhile, George Kittle wasn't even on ESPN's list of the top 100. Kittle was drafted in the 5th round at No. 146, the 7th TE taken. In four seasons, Kittle has doubled OJ Howard's per game production in receptions and yards. Kittle is a two-time Pro Bowler, a second team All Pro in 2018 and first teamer in 2019. Howard has never been a Pro Bowler or an All Pro. Don't put too much stock in rankings, especially when you get outside of the 2nd round. They are not the Gospel my any means.

[DragonIce]

The Sporting News has McKitty ranked as the No. 6 TE, and he was the 5th one drafted, so he may not be as much of a reach as you think. The only TE ranked in the top 100 that didn't get drafted in the first two days is Brevin Jordan, who is a bit small for TE in the NFL at 6-3 245. Once you see McKitty play you change your mind about him being a dubious pick.

Hope so. This was very thin TE class, so the 5th or 6th best one isn't going to offer you much. 40 time I saw (4.7) is underwhelming, and broad jump/high jump were quite mediocre. I've generally seen him mocked much later.

In my view this was a thin crop of draftees. The sweet spot was 2nd round. I'd have preferred we bundled the two threes and moved up. (And I'm usually not a trade-up guy)

[cmplxgal]

With regards to the bolded, where are you getting this idea from?

This has always been my assessment of the draft: That a team should be able to pick a good player in the first and second rounds, that you don't get many starters in the fourth and later rounds, and that the third round is the one in which teams that draft well do well.

[Leslie Grossman]

agreed TE very thin pushed McKitty and Tremble up the board. Look at all the talent left at edge and DT available in round 4

[Boltjolt]

Sure, no objection to McKitty in round 6. There he represents a good potential value pick. Here, in round 3, we just wasted draft capital on a round 6 player.

Well I felt I had him a little low. 5th round is where id ideally have him. But hey, this draft was going to be different and some of us mentioned it often. Perhaps I under projected him.
There are still some good players on the board.
You don't like it, I get it but let's see what they can do.

Just because we drafted Palmer in the 3rd don't mean he is going to be our third WR in his first year. Johnson can play, has NFL experience and the draft is about projected potential.

He wasn't on my radar but that don't mean I think he was a bad pick.
Maybe Joe Reed is indeed going to play a lot of RB this season.

[Xenos]

Not Draftek where it was not a starter level need - EDGE was though . It was a lower rated need in Sporting News CBS too.

We had no starter outside of Cook at TE. With Edge, we had at least Bosa and Nwosu. With Lemonier and Fackrell as backup depth. The priority need for this team was OT, Corner, and then Safety. With TE and OG next. The depth for Edge this year isn’t very good unfortunately.

[Cdn Bolt]

It is just baffling 2nd rnd talent was still available at EDGE and they reached for 2 skill positions ranked in ~ the 5th rnd There are still 3rd rnd level EDGE players available.

[Cdn Bolt]

We had no starter outside of Cook at TE. With Edge, we had at least Bosa and Nwosu. With Lemonier and Fackrell as backup depth. The priority need for this team was OT, Corner, and then Safety. With TE and OG next. The depth for Edge this year isn’t very good unfortunately.

We have a starter (Cook) and 3 backups at TE. So fine McKitty may be a future starter so there is some need but less than at EDGE IMO

At EDGE we really don't even have a starter level player across from Bosa - Nwosu was a backup. Do you think he is a starter? We needed a replacement for Ingram Either way we'll leave it at that

[Xenos]

We have a starter and 3 backups at TE. At EDGE we don't even have a starter level player - Nwosu was a bakcup. We needed a replacement for Ingram Either way we;l lleave it at that

Well apparently the Chargers feel that Nwosu is ready to be an Edge Rusher opposite of Bosa and replace Ingram.

Also here’s what Popper said about McKitty. I guess he’s not even thinking about Anderson.

Rookie impact: McKitty will have a defined role as the top “Y” tight end in the Chargers’ offense. He will play significant snaps as an in-line blocker and fill an important spot in the system as a rookie. Any receiving impact in Year 1 will be icing on the cake. McKitty’s real value will be as a blocker in the run game.

Depth chart impact: The Chargers already had pass-catching options at tight end between Cook and Parham. They are not particularly strong blockers, though. Cook, in fact, was only on the line 15 percent of the time last year with the Saints, according to Pro Football Focus. Lombardi, of course, was the Saints’ quarterbacks coach before joining the Chargers. Parham might lose some snaps with McKitty on the roster, but now the Chargers can use him in a role that makes sense — as a receiving weapon in the slot and outside.

[beachcomber]

Day Three

Hamsah
Daviyon
Trey Smith
Tyler Shelvin
Josh Ball