2022 Official Bolts Draft Superthread

[Topcat]

When you say that he is a starting caliber OT, he has only 1 year as a starter. He has always gotten a fair number of snaps as a swing OT. He was a marginal player over most of his career, who has blossomed in his late 20's and early 30's. I am not that sold with bringing in a 32/33 year old OT. I also think he is going to get someone who is desperate who is going to offer him an obscene amount of money. But he is not a long-term replacement. His athleticism is marginal, he is a technique guy, and when they lose their athletic ability, they go downhill quickly, AND, THESE OLDER DUDES GET HURT MORE OFTEN.

There...fixed it for 'ya!

[beachcomber]

lookin' over the SB weigh in, looking for value....

McCreary round two as peoples don't like his short arms/small hands.... dude has prototypical CB size.... good value round two.

will peoples be scared off by 387 ?? Faalele day two would be a +

is Zion Johnson @6'2" too short for some peoples ?? will that help push him down to us in round two ??

Mathis and Abraham Lucas w/very solid measurables

Max Mitchell @299.... D'Vonte Price @198
@6'3" 234 lbs, does DeAngelo Malone have a position on this defense, or can he gain the 15 or so pounds he needs to play ED ??

[Steve]

Originally posted by Steve View Post

When you say that he is a starting caliber OT, he has only 1 year as a starter. He has always gotten a fair number of snaps as a swing OT. He was a marginal player over most of his career, who has blossomed in his late 20's and early 30's. I am not that sold with bringing in a 32/33 year old OT. I also think he is going to get someone who is desperate who is going to offer him an obscene amount of money. But he is not a long-term replacement. His athleticism is marginal, he is a technique guy, and when they lose their athletic ability, they go downhill quickly, AND, THESE OLDER DUDES GET HURT MORE OFTEN.
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Dennis Kelly is a pretty low Milledge guy. And he has never been hurt, or if he has, I have never seen his play drop off. He has gotten a low level of playing time since he was a backup in Philly and Tenn. The more he has to pass block, and the more he is isolated on pass rushers, the worse he looks. He also has some trouble with stunts and games if he is asked to block big on big. I would not be as thrilled with him in an offense like ours or KC, than in more of balanced O with a running game and a lot of TE and RB in the game (Tenn or GB).

Now, after all these years, he is a solid guy, but he gets a lot of help from the scheme. There is a reason he got traded to Tenn and then to GB. They play mostly zone protection so they can slide to him, or put a TE or RB to help him. You also see that GB and Tenn did a lot of half rolls and waggles away from him to help hide his deficiencies some.

I also think people tend to see him in a running O and the success teams he have had in the running game, and while he is a good run blocker, he is not the kind of guy who you run behind and he gets tough yards. He is a position blocker, who is decent at cutting off backside pursuit. He is OK getting to the 2nd level, but he is not the kind of guy who can pull and lead or pull and trap. And not the ideal guy to do a lot of outside zone running to his side.

I think he is getting a lot of attention because his salary has always been on the lowish side (sub $2mill), but that is forgetting he got a bonus, and the way OTC shows things, that doesn't appear on the his salary unless you go in. Again, given the shortage of OL, he will probably get a gob of money thrown at him by a team like the Jags, so I don't have any confidence he is going to be cheap. This is his last chance for a big paycheck, so I bet he goes for it, especially after one year starting in Tenn, and 5 games for GB this season. He is the right guy in the right offense, but will never be a great player.

[Parcells]

I’m not saying I think he’s a big time free agent. To me he upgrades a weak spot on the O-line and buys a year or two before addressing that position in the draft. I will be happy to draft a strong RT in round 1 (or even round 2). But if he can be had for relatively cheap, it allows us to spend big money elsewhere and draft capital elsewhere. Spending 5+ million a year on him quickly makes him not worth it.

[Xenos]

Yes they will. I'm shocked he is vocal about certain things and I didn't see his response to Roo but yes, he will be missed on the draft front.

And on that note, I miss your takes on the draft as well. Usually very involved and not so much last year. I know you have things going on, .... or did. Hope to see more from you if possible especially since we lost Ninja.

Wait what? I thought his response to Roo’s thread was fine. But I guess I didn’t see if there was more.

Yeah, I’ll definitely miss him and his football takes.

[Boltjolt]

Wait what? I thought his response to Roo’s thread was fine. But I guess I didn’t see if there was more.

Yeah, I’ll definitely miss him and his football takes.

Apparently there was more but it got deleted and that I never saw.

[wu-dai clan]

Raimann is now over 300#.
There is huge upside from athleticism
and developing football IQ.
He must be in play at #17.
TE to OT ?
See Joe Staley, Lane Johnson.

[Critty]

lookin' over the SB weigh in, looking for value....

McCreary round two as peoples don't like his short arms/small hands.... dude has prototypical CB size.... good value round two.

will peoples be scared off by 387 ?? Faalele day two would be a +

is Zion Johnson @6'2" too short for some peoples ?? will that help push him down to us in round two ??

Mathis and Abraham Lucas w/very solid measurables

Max Mitchell @299.... D'Vonte Price @198
@6'3" 234 lbs, does DeAngelo Malone have a position on this defense, or can he gain the 15 or so pounds he needs to play ED ??

I would draft Faalele.
You can't teach what he is.
First off the bus.
First out the tunnel.
Coin toss caller.
I want him to be the first man the opponent sees.
Followed by Thor.
And If I can, I'm telling the opponent at the snap that we can go right all day and you won't stop it. Then hand it to Ekeler going right and have Faalele shove somebody into next sunday for 5 yards. Set the tone.

[Topcat]

Raimann is now over 300#.
There is huge upside from athleticism
and developing football IQ.
He must be in play at #17.
TE to OT ?
See Joe Staley, Lane Johnson.

More info on Raimann from TDN. Played TE two years before bulking up to 300+# to play OT:

Central Michigan offensive tackle Bernhard Raimann is an impressive developmental prospect who has all of the physical tools needed to become a plus starting offensive tackle in the NFL. Raimann is an international player who is originally from Austria and came to Central Michigan initially as a tight end while also lettering in wrestling and track & field.

Those athletic tools are quite apparent for Raimann, who spent his first two seasons as a TE on the roster and logged 20 receptions for 164 yards between the 2018 and 2019 seasons before stacking on weight and converting to play tackle. When you consider hes got a two-year exposure to offensive tackle, it is easy to see why theres such an enthusiasm about his projection to the pro game as he continues to master his new position. Initially listed as a 230-pound tight end on his 247 Sports recruiting profile, Raimann now carries more than 300 pounds on his frame and does so with only a few subtle clues that he™s added extra weight and hasn™t naturally been this big.

I like his projection best in a system that looks to weaponize his athletic ability on the edge where his movement skills can help hit ambitious landmarks in the run and screen game and his mobility can help to shine and maintain pocket integrity when his offense looks to move the pocket. The three-year projection is undoubtedly higher than the one-year projection and in a perfect world, he may get a little seasoning on the bench before taking the field. But with his position and his likely projected draft status, I would not be surprised if Raimann was handed a starting role early on and charged with learning on the job.

Ideal role: Starting left tackle

Scheme tendencies: Wide zone heavy rushing attack (Shanahan style system)

FILM EVALUATION

Written by Kyle Crabbs

Games watched: Western Michigan (2020), Missouri (2021), LSU (2021), Miami OH (2021)

Best Game Studied: LSU (2021)

Worst Game Studied: Missouri (2021)

Balance: Raimann is a natural mover who offers very good athletic ability in space. Whether it comes in pass protection, in the run game on reach blocks, or working on quick throws and screens to the perimeter, he carries his weight well and adjusts his frame to not overrun or overcommit against defenders when he’s unattached. Shows notable recovery ability in protection after catching hands but does give up too much real estate on account of some pad issues and functional strength.Â

Pass Sets: If you like smooth feet on a tackle, you’re going to love his tape. Raimann is rather efficient with his steps to protect vertically and shows a good feel of when to flip and run past the peak of the arc. Can be susceptible to speed-to-power conversions. however. Missouri tagged him a few times and walked him back into the lap of his quarterback.Â

Competitive Toughness: Raimann offers a notable amount of effort on the line of scrimmage. He’s one of those pesky blockers who will stick and mirror with defenders after two shed attempts because he’s active with his feet and strong with his hands. I’ve watched him run 30 yards downfield looking for second-level flow in the run game and continue working upfield to hunt up bodies. He’s a tight end convert so I wouldn’t classify him as a mauler and his pure core/lower-body power is only sufficient right now but I think there’s still some room to grow.Â

Lateral Mobility: Raimann has very good functional athleticism despite the added weight onto his frame to build himself up for trench warfare. His initial quickness out of the blocks and lateral mobility to react quickly to flashing defenders both upfield in pass rushes and across his face in the run game is notable and allow him to get into the body of defenders with consistency.

Length: I have no issues or questions with the extension skills here. He’s not overly proficient at maximizing said reach and can be guilty of catching hands, but anatomically, he’ll meet your thresholds to play outside and I’m confident that he can get better to time his hands. When he does get set, he shows notable strength to sustain the block even when he’s fully extended.Â

Football IQ: The flashes he showcases are super exciting when you take into account that this is a player who only converted to offensive tackle AFTER arriving at Central Michigan. He was originally a tight end. And his understanding of pass sets and his natural instinct to flip hips and run the corner to protect the edge is impressive. There’s fundamental progress that’s needed but if you enter his tape with the understanding of where his baseline is, you can easily get excited about his projection. I thought he did a nice job sorting out multiple rushers when the CMU protection schemes were tested with added pressure, too.Â

Hand Technique: Strike placement irregularities he showcases with his stun punch are something to be mindful of coaching him up on. He's errant a little too often and his low hand carriage will get the best of him at times when he’s looking to shoot and gain control of the play. That said, I’m impressed with his grip strength and ability to sustain blocks at the far reaches of his extension and wingspan; he’s sticky when he gets a grasp on his man.Â

Anchor Ability: Raimann will need to continue to develop his functional strength in order to maximize his potential and be a more universal scheme fit at the NFL level. He appears at times to compensate for below average lower-body power and muscle engagement in his posterior chain when locking horns and trying to maintain a fundamentally sound baseâ€Â"that's plenty expected given his late transition to tackle and the weight he's stacked onto his frame, but it could be a barrier to consistent success in the league against speed-to-power rushers or in the wrong environment.Â

Power at POA: Raimann is urgent and persistent in the run game and can be found five-plus yards downfield and attached to bodies in the run game when he's able to create some initial forward push. But due to some of the rawness of his game, he will allow defenders to get into his frame intermittently. Pad level can be compromised in these instances and things will snowball, putting him back onto his heels and testing his recovery stills.

Versatility: Raimann currently projects best in a Shanahan-style system that can accentuate his athletic ability on the perimeter and allow him to shine, gaining the edge or escorting defenders out of the play in zone concepts. I do think he has some added room to grow; his build appears to suggest he could continue stacking a little more weight onto his frame and improve his raw power to be a more versatile player. However, asking him to do that is likely to cause him to be an even more developmental/long-term proposition. Â

Prospect Comparison: Brian O’Neill (2018 NFL Draft, Minnesota Vikings)

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/bernhard-raimann

[wu-dai clan]

TY. Cat. We want powerful OL who can move for our scheme. Oday + Bernhard. Palestinian-Austrian right side. This will be glorious.

[Boltjolt]

I would draft Faalele.
You can't teach what he is.
First off the bus.
First out the tunnel.
Coin toss caller.
I want him to be the first man the opponent sees.
Followed by Thor.
And If I can, I'm telling the opponent at the snap that we can go right all day and you won't stop it. Then hand it to Ekeler going right and have Faalele shove somebody into next sunday for 5 yards. Set the tone.

This is the NFL. If Faalele could do all that in college he would be the first ranked OT in this draft. But he isn't.

One big concern is when he gets paid, will he always be a problem having to tell him to lose weight ballooning to 400?

[wu-dai clan]

This is the NFL. If Faalele could do all that in college he would be the first ranked OT in this draft. But he isn't.

One big concern is when he gets paid, will he always be a problem having to tell him to lose weight ballooning to 400?

Faalele does not fit our scheme.
We need power, balance, yes, but also mobility over there.
Otherwise, opponents overload on Slater--Feiler.
We must execute 3rd, 4th & short and RZ.