2022 Official Bolts Draft Superthread

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  • gzubeck
    Ines Sainz = Jet Bait!
    • Jan 2019
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    If no QB goes in the first 16 picks we should be in business to move down in a big way!

    :hello:
    Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

    "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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    • chargeroo
      Fan since 1961
      • Jan 2019
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      I'd love it if Devin Lloyd fell to us at 17. The guy is a tackling machine and he get's even better when the game is a big game. I think he would be a really big help to our defense.
      THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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      • Fleet 1
        TPB Founder
        • Jun 2013
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        POST-ALL-STAR pre COMBINE Draft Thoughts

        February 22, 2022
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        Hello again football fans. Especially you NFL Draftnik die-hards. I was a bit excited with the Combine within range, but I see some agents and their clients are set to bite the hand that feeds it, before they even get a contract to join the League. Poor babies… tough protocols, with actual penalties (like get out of town) for failing to follow rules. Those same agents would be among the first to also sue the NFL in some way if their client went to the Combine and then contacted Covid-19 (or a variant thereof) for lack of health/safety protocols. It’s an all expenses paid trip to a severely limited Job Fair. Next to politicians, athletes have become the most entitled people in this country. Without talking signing bonuses, and the like, just the standard First Year NFL player salary for 2022 is scheduled to be $705,000. Wonder how many of the 300+ players scheduled to be at the Combine next week have a job at that price level waiting for them if they walk away from football. What have you got lined up for them Mr./Ms. Agent? I will tell you this much, with very few exceptions, the reborn USFL ain’t handing out those kind of contracts.

        The NFL has quickly backed down on several aspects of the Protocol they set in place for the Combine. Whether or not it’s enough to placate the agents is yet to be seen. But for the now the NFL itself may have made enough of an effort to satisfy agents, and their clients, as well as providing themselves with a stringent enough initial protocol to cover their preverbal ass if something backfires and an enraged agent sues the League for negligence in conducting their Combine. As Mr. Brandt has always said, ‘there will be lawyers’.

        One of the fun games Draftniks play every year is to compose a list of Combine Snubs, based on their miscellaneous prospect ranking lists. I only work with rankings of 1-300, broken down in multiples of 100. When I reuse the Combine Invitee list, I look to see what players were in my top 2 groups, top 200 regardless of position. For this year, all of my Top 100 group are on the Combine invited list. But I did discover more players than I expected missing from their list when I looked at my 101-200 group. Missing, in alphabetical order from my list to the published Combine list were:

        REED BLANKENSHIP S Middle Tennessee St

        DERRICK DEESE TE San Jose St

        EMEKA EMEZIE WR NC State

        JAMES HOUSTON ILB Jackson St

        ERIC JOHNSON DL Missouri St

        TAY MARTIN WR Oklahoma St

        JA’QUAN McMILLIAN CB East Carolina

        TYLER VRABEL OT Boston College

        DAMARION WILLIAMS CB Houston

        Once we get beyond the Top 200, the player rankings for all of us are quite divergent. As the Bard of Avon once said, ‘every eye forms its own beauty’!



        Last week, I happened to be scrolling thru Tweets from folks I follow on Twitter. My numbers are limited in follows to under 50, and as you might guess, the vast majority of those are football writers of one ilk or another. I came across one from Dane Brugler, the preeminent NFL Draft expert over at The Athletic. In the tweet I refer to, he listed by position groups the numbers of pro prospects in his own Top 100. Mainly because I rate his NFL Draft knowledge as being top notch, I went thru my Top 100 and compared my numbers to his at each position.

        DANE POS. Pigskin

        17 EDGE 13

        14 WR 14

        11 CB 15

        10 LB 10

        10 OT 9

        9 IOL 7

        7 S 8

        7 DT 7

        6 QB 5

        5 RB 7

        4 TE 5

        The numbers are pretty close at most position groups and may be even closer as I am sure he and I have certain players at different position groups. I should also point out that we do NOT have the same 100 names overall in our Top 100 lists. But I felt that these numbers are pretty close with 7 of the 11 groups being the same or differing by only 1.

        Just for a bit more detail, I should point out that within my 100 groupings, at this point I do not have the players specifically slotted by a number rank, just alphabetical within those 3 groups. In fact, I have only 287 players within my Top 300. I intended to check Combine numbers before I fill all 300 slots on my Boards. To each his own, as they say.

        Within my 287 names, my Star Game (as Colin likes to call them) player breakdowns are as follows:

        SENIOR BOWL 116

        SHRINE BOWL 61

        NFLPA BOWL 19

        Some players are counted twice on the list above, since a handful of players end up participating in more than one game during the January/February time slots for said games. With apologies to a handful of other Star Game contests, the numbers of Top 300 prospects are negligible.

        Another note on something that grabbed my attention after Star Games were over and I went thru roster sheets one more time, or three. We all knew that DANIEL FAALELE/OT/Minnesota would be the largest human participating in these games this year, perhaps ever. And he is/was! But when I was checking over weigh-in numbers overall, another young man caught my eye. Check out these numbers:

        NAME School HGT/WGHT HAND ARM WINGSPAN

        Daniel Faalele Minnesota 6’8 1/4″/387 11″ 35 3/8″ 86 1/4″

        Caleb Jones Indiana 6’8 7/8″/369 9 1/2″ 36 3/4″ 87 3/8″

        Let’s just say that those numbers are closer than I might have expected, with JONES leading the way in height, arm & wingspan. Whoa, Nellie!, as Mr. Jackson used to say.

        Now quickly to the world of GPS tracking, instead of the old stop-watch for 40 times. Here are the fastest recorded 40-times at the Senior Bowl and Shrine Bowls;

        DANNY GRAY WR SMU SR BOWL 22.01 mph Left venue – injured B4 game.

        DaMARCUS FIELDS CB Texas Tech SHRINE 21/77 mph

        VELUS JONES WR/RS Tennessee SR BOWL 21.75 mph

        SAM WEBB CB MO Western SHRINE 21.51 mph

        SAMORI TOURE WR Nebraska SHRINE 21.48 mph

        KALON BARNES CB Baylor SHRINE 21.47 mph

        ROMEO DOUBS WR Nevada SR BOWL 21.25 mph

        Just reporting what was listed during TV broadcasts for the two Bowl Games. I still want to see and hear CHARLIE CASSERLY with his live calls of the 40’s from Indy… hopefully.

        Cheers for now, football friends.

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        • blueman
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          • Jun 2013
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          No to Olave in the first.

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          • Boltjolt
            Dont let the PBs fool ya
            • Jun 2013
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            Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

            Not one QB in Round 1? You know this draft will be off because someone in round two will move up to take a QB in the bottom of round one at the very least. I just don't see us taking a receiver with pick #17...and I like Olave too! Better to move down in a big way if were contemplating taking a receiver at all in round one.

            :coffee:
            There were 2 QBs in that link in the first round. The first going #18.

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            • Leslie Grossman
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              • Nov 2020
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              Great stuff Fleet
              Brugler is enjoying trolling us with Tyler Smith and Mafe in the 1st

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              • Topcat
                AKA "Pollcat"
                • Jan 2019
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                Originally posted by Fleet 1 View Post
                Another note on something that grabbed my attention after Star Games were over and I went thru roster sheets one more time, or three. We all knew that DANIEL FAALELE/OT/Minnesota would be the largest human participating in these games this year, perhaps ever. And he is/was! But when I was checking over weigh-in numbers overall, another young man caught my eye. Check out these numbers:

                NAME School HGT/WGHT HAND ARM WINGSPAN

                Daniel Faalele Minnesota 6'8 1/4″/387 11″ 35 3/8″ 86 1/4″

                Caleb Jones Indiana 6'8 7/8″/369 9 1/2″ 36 3/4″ 87 3/8″

                Let's just say that those numbers are closer than I might have expected, with JONES leading the way in height, arm & wingspan. Whoa, Nellie!, as Mr. Jackson used to say.
                Jones looks like a bit of a project...big dude, though...wonder how he'd do if someone kicked him inside to G...

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                • Stinky Wizzleteats+
                  Grammar Police
                  • Jun 2013
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                  Not saying they can't but a 4/3 tackle is not always able to play the NT in a 3/4. So back to what I said originally IF we are transitioning to the 3/4 then we want a 3/4 nose and two 3/4 DE like Jones and Tillary to eat blocks and occupy online men so our OLBs can rush.
                  Go Rivers!

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                  • equivocation
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                    • Apr 2021
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                    Originally posted by Stinky Wizzleteats+ View Post
                    Not saying they can't but a 4/3 tackle is not always able to play the NT in a 3/4. So back to what I said originally IF we are transitioning to the 3/4 then we want a 3/4 nose and two 3/4 DE like Jones and Tillary to eat blocks and occupy online men so our OLBs can rush.
                    Ok?

                    The LAC most common position group was 4-2. 2nd most common was 5-2. I don't see a propspect that couldn't play in both those alignments. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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                    • Boltjolt
                      Dont let the PBs fool ya
                      • Jun 2013
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                      Originally posted by equivocation View Post

                      Ok?

                      The LAC most common position group was 4-2. 2nd most common was 5-2. I don't see a propspect that couldn't play in both those alignments. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
                      We did play 3-4 as well but it isn't the same ol school 3-4 we played before. I believe that's what he is thinking we are doing.

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                      • Xenos
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                        • Feb 2019
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                        Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
                        Jeremiah's latest draft.

                        What a disaster, anyone we've ever thought about picking goes before 17.

                        https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jere...ing-wr-for-jos

                        The WRs and
                        QBs have been completely downgraded.
                        Cross at RT?

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                        • AK47
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                          • May 2019
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                          Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
                          If no QB goes in the first 16 picks we should be in business to move down in a big way!

                          :hello:
                          QB class that thin this year? If so and coupled with a couple big name QBs in FA then TT better get his shiznit together.

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