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Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post
Well, stupid posts from you certainly are not changing.
Johnson was a key factor in the loss to the Raiders just as I said. He was the player that forced Roberts to fumble, which was an important play in the game. Feel free to disagree. I am comfortable with where I am on that issue.
Further, while the stupid decision to cut Johnson is old news from which our team will have to recover, your analytical approach is just wrong. It is completely irrelevant what Johnson did or does as a WR for other teams. It always was.
What matters is his ability to play well for us when playing with Herbert, something he more than demonstrated in 2020. Our very deep (explosive) passing game did take a step back this year as I said it would without Johnson. What Johnson was for us in 2020 was 20 receptions for 398 yards (19.9 yards per reception) and 3 TDs on just 26 targets.
For those failing to grasp the significance of that level of statistical production, the QB rating when we targeted Johnson in 2020 was 156.7, which was the single highest rating for any QB throwing to any receiver regardless of position (WR, TE, RB) in the entire NFL in that season. I would say that pretty damn well proves how good Johnson could be when working with Herbert.
If you wish to claim that there was no meaningful functional rhythm developed between Herbert and Johnson in the face of that combination being the most efficient together in the entire NFL, you go right ahead. Again, I am very comfortable with my very well supported position on this issue.
I think the act of you referring to me by the username of an apparent former poster and taking weak and unsupportable positions just to act as a troll says a lot more about you than it does me, so, by all means, you carry on....
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Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post
Enough with the personal attacks. That includes anyone.Go Rivers!
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Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post
this draft will fall to the chargers just as good as it has the last two years in terms of value. maybe I misunderstood your post but are you implying no one worth the 17th at position of need will be available at 17th slot? I think there are going to be 5-7 players worth tha spot when the chargers draft and they might have choice of one or two types of positions. At this point we don’t even know enough in terms of who has a bad combine, who whatever, how can we assume there won’t be any worthwhile at 17? The QBs as usual will rise late pushing talented players further down which is a huge boon for teams like the Chargers. In addition to that the chargers have needs at positions that are traditionally easier fill with quality players because the most challenging positions are set (QB/LT), we are good at Edge, the big needs are CB, DT, and then RT and the reason why I rank RT third is because I believe we already have our RT on the roster in Matt Feiler. Resign Oday to play RG, bring back Scho as reserve, and sign a solid veteran LG, then RT becomes a mid to late round depth developmental deal. For depth we have an improved pipkins for another year and 4rth tackle can be drafted in rounds 3-5 or if a good one is available in round 2. Corner is the biggest draft need with DT being easier to fill in FA, then add depth as needed.
Still, I really do not think the leading candidates are as well defined this year as they have been in other years. The CBs are not as good as Horn and Surtain were last year. No OT like Slater is going to be there at #17. The highest rated DL players do not seem like they carry value at #17 overall. IMO, those are the leading positions of need.
It would be fair to say that I "like" some players, but so far I really do not "love" anyone as a great player for us that should be there at #17.
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Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post
I agree that much of the story is still to be told with the combine and free agency yet to take place. I also agree that QBs being pushed up the board helps us.
Still, I really do not think the leading candidates are as well defined this year as they have been in other years. The CBs are not as good as Horn and Surtain were last year. No OT like Slater is going to be there at #17. The highest rated DL players do not seem like they carry value at #17 overall. IMO, those are the leading positions of need.
It would be fair to say that I "like" some players, but so far I really do not "love" anyone as a great player for us that should be there at #17.
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Originally posted by Leslie Grossman View Post
Agreed, would love to trade down and draft 3 starters in the top 55 assuming someone we love does not fall to 17.
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Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post
IMO, Shane Day would be a solid candidate.
but it would be a rushed promotion imo and he would be learning on the job with an even steeper learning curve than Lombardi.
my point is that however unsatisfied we may be with Lombardi, it would likely be worse if we (had to) replace him at this point in Herbert's development.
I hope we get the most out of Lombardi and give Day a chance to truly immerse himself in the offense before he is promoted
In 2024Chargers vs. Everyone
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Quick 6-Rounder. IMO, this is not the year to be hunting QBs or RBs, this from a guy on his couch in L.A., who watches tape.
Pierre Strong Jr. :44. Kid has hands for executing a RPO post-concept at a very high-level. He's also got a goal-line jump-pass that is stellar.
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