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  • TexanBeerlover
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    #349
    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
    Andrew Booth.... would be an upgrade over CHJ and the departed Casey Hayward, and.... wonder how much better he is than Josh Jobe ??

    his NFL compare is Jaire Alexander, and have not heard of much if any in the way of injury concerns, and.... he does play a physical brand of football.

    Booth is willing to come downhill against the run, albeit there is the question as to how well he wraps up as a would be tackler, and as one who had a missed tackle rate of 20 percent.

    his playmaker mentality does cost him @times as he can be overzealous, but he does have anticipation/ball skills as an ex wideout, and is heralded for his football IQ and on field awareness

    some wonder if he might be vulnerable to longballers, and eye suspect he is a tad oversized for a CB, and also question his value @17, as think the better strategy is to see if someone drops to us day two like ASJ did.... Kyler Gordon would be my first choice @48, but Booth def would be a complimentary player for Staley's defensive backfield scheme, if he were to make it to us round two.
    Booth has hardly missed any snap, minor stuff, durability is a box best checked off for Chargers, regardless position. My thing is projecting forward to second contract, is he a keeper, would he be willing to sign for team friendly contract and of course how productive. Booth would be a mainstay of Staley defense, position flexible and ultra competitive. Never trusted Husky’s, well coached system players, Clemson produces more NFL top level talent.

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    • Boltjolt
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      #350
      Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post

      can't have too many corners. someone is always nicked up or injured, ASjr has two concussions first year. what's protocol after 3 or 4? Davis took a step back, very disappointing season. Competition, whoever steps up and availability is best availability or do we want to keep reliving problem areas caused by lack of depth.......
      Well if you think we will sign one of those expensive CBs and then draft another at 17, you might be dreaming.
      Davis is making 10 mil a year.

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      • TexanBeerlover
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        #351
        You have to invest money to make money. Don’t get all cheap on us Telesco :rasta:

        just wanted to add, hate that he let Hunter Henry walk. Enough for me, to make a statement like that and stand behind it. Or maybe it’s ownership? Please enlighten me. To see Rams go all in and win it all makes me wonder, what the hell ……..
        Last edited by TexanBeerlover; 02-17-2022, 12:06 PM.

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        • steelbtexan
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          #352
          Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post

          Booth has hardly missed any snap, minor stuff, durability is a box best checked off for Chargers, regardless position. My thing is projecting forward to second contract, is he a keeper, would he be willing to sign for team friendly contract and of course how productive. Booth would be a mainstay of Staley defense, position flexible and ultra competitive. Never trusted Husky’s, well coached system players, Clemson produces more NFL top level talent.
          If Booth falls to 1-17 I pick him because I've got him as a to 10 player.

          I can find a RT in the 2nd rd.

          My question is if a guy like Salyer who I love was to fall to 2-49 would you pick him despite needing a RT. I think Salyer is a 10 year starter at RG.

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          • steelbtexan
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            #353
            Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post
            You have to invest money to make money. Don’t get all cheap on us Telesco :rasta:

            just wanted to add, hate that he let Hunter Henry walk. Enough for me, to make a statement like that and stand behind it. Or maybe it’s ownership? Please enlighten me. To see Rams go all in and win it all makes me wonder, what the hell ……..
            It takes a combination of drafting well and taking risks in FA to build a championship level team. (Plus luck) Playing in the AFC West these are risks that have to be taken if the Chargers want to become true contenders.

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            • Boltnut
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              #354
              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              Well if you think we will sign one of those expensive CBs and then draft another at 17, you might be dreaming.
              Davis is making 10 mil a year.
              I don't understand signing an expensive FA CB when there are so many good CB's in the draft. Darft the BPA @#17 (likely a CB) and use that FA money bringing back the guys you like (MW, Nwosu, White, and Jones).
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              • TexanBeerlover
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                #355
                Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                I don't understand signing an expensive FA CB when there are so many good CB's in the draft. Darft the BPA @#17 (likely a CB) and use that FA money bringing back the guys you like (MW, Nwosu, White, and Jones).
                Best to be safe vs sorry
                take a known and hope that unknown
                develops

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                • Boltnut
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                  #356
                  Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post

                  Best to be safe vs sorry
                  take a known and hope that unknown
                  develops
                  "Known" CB's rarely hit the market. When they do (cap issues etc.) teams tend to over-spend for them... bidding war. That means not bringing back your own "known" FA's.
                  So which of our own FA's would you not bring back...? I get the feeling that MW, Nwosu, White, and Jones are universally liked by both the GM and HC. We won't have the massive amounts of FA money that some people think we will have. I guess we'll have to wait and see who TT brings back.
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                  • TexanBeerlover
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                    #357
                    Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                    "Known" CB's rarely hit the market. When they do (cap issues etc.) teams tend to over-spend for them... bidding war. That means not bringing back your own "known" FA's.
                    So which of our own FA's would you not bring back...? I get the feeling that MW, Nwosu, White, and Jones are universally liked by both the GM and HC. We won't have the massive amounts of FA money that some people think we will have. I guess we'll have to wait and see who TT brings back.
                    Any or all free game with Derwin James one exception.

                    seriously, wouldn’t take all down to get a deal done, 2nd most cap space in entire NFL. It’s not an all or nothing proposition.

                    Do you think Rams are only team that can pull off moves to acquire elite CB1? Or just Telesco doesn’t have the balls

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      #358
                      Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post

                      Any or all free game with Derwin James one exception.

                      seriously, wouldn’t take all down to get a deal done, 2nd most cap space in entire NFL. It’s not an all or nothing proposition.

                      Do you think Rams are only team that can pull off moves to acquire elite CB1? Or just Telesco doesn’t have the balls
                      Telesco isn't that aggressive, never shown he is.

                      We'll see. There are a couple really good 'CBs on FAcy. Think we need DTs more though. This off-season will be the most interesting for us in years imo.

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                      • beachcomber
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                        #359
                        Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                        "Known" CB's rarely hit the market. When they do (cap issues etc.) teams tend to over-spend for them... bidding war. That means not bringing back your own "known" FA's.
                        So which of our own FA's would you not bring back...? I get the feeling that MW, Nwosu, White, and Jones are universally liked by both the GM and HC. We won't have the massive amounts of FA money that some people think we will have. I guess we'll have to wait and see who TT brings back.
                        could see the situation where they all sign elsewhere ??
                        LB CJ Allen, LT Caleb Lomu, OC Parker Brailsford, RB Demond Claiborne, TE Justin Joly, NT Dontay Corleone,​​ OC Bryce Foster, CB Josh Moten, LB Eric Gentry

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                        • Boltnut
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                          #360
                          Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post

                          Any or all free game with Derwin James one exception.

                          seriously, wouldn’t take all down to get a deal done, 2nd most cap space in entire NFL. It’s not an all or nothing proposition.

                          Do you think Rams are only team that can pull off moves to acquire elite CB1? Or just Telesco doesn’t have the balls
                          If you're not bringing back your own FA's, you are creating holes in your roster. You could fill some of those in FA... but who makes it to FA...? JC Jackson is probably the best FA CB. But the Patriots probably re-sign him. If not, he's going to cost you $18 million/year. Carlton Davis...? Probably gets the F-Tag. After that, you start looking at older (Gilmore) or guys that won't be as good as the CB you could get with the #17 pick.

                          I'd use that #17 pick on a CB that has inside/outside capabilities (in case ASJ gets another concussion) and is a very good tackler (Staley's preference). That 1st round pick also gets a 5th-year option. It's long-term thinking in a league that likes to throw the ball.

                          And you know a RT has got to be in the 2nd round plans...

                          With 2 of your biggest needs covered in the first 2 rounds (CB and RT), it sure would be nice if you didn't have a bunch of roster holes to fill (WR, EDGE, LB, DT). The nice thing about MW, Nwosu, White, and Jones... you know they fit. Both the HC and GM are comfortable with those known quantities. Are you sure the FA's you bring in will all fit in your scheme...? Big gamble... when you don't have to gamble. There is enough money to bring all of those young players back. Once you bring them all back (even if you replace via FA)... there's not a whole lot of money left. Maybe enough for some role players. The NT and DT positions would be my FA targets (after bringing my own back). They come a lot cheaper than the premium positions.
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