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  • Topcat
    AKA "Pollcat"
    • Jan 2019
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    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
    got seven guys in my first round cluster, and.... not interested in anyone e!se,

    Marvin Harrison
    Joe Alt
    Jer'Zhan Newton
    Kool Aid McKinstry
    Laiatu Latu
    Brock Bowers
    Rome Odunze


    think anyone else is a miss/poor value as compared to any of the aforementioned.... just sayin'
    Hey, if the Jets draft McKinstry, they will have bookend corners: Sauce on one side, and Kool Aid on the other!!!
    22 - TE Mason Taylor
    55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
    86 - DL Josiah Stewart
    125 - G Dylan Fairchild
    158 - C Jake Majors
    181 - WR Donte Thornton

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    • Fleet 1
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      • Jun 2013
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      Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

      so is this the Fleet mock draft atm ?? who needs to be added ??

      1) Keon Coleman, Rome Odunze, Cooper DeJean
      2) JaTavion Sanders
      3) Jaheim Bell, Johnny Wilson, Cooper Beebe, Trey Benson
      4) Adisa Isaac
      Beebe and Sanders may make 1st round. I have them tucked away in that range. Maybe a move back. I could see them climb.

      Odunze, Sanders, Beebe and Isaac in that scenario.

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      • Boltjolt
        Dont let the PBs fool ya
        • Jun 2013
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        Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

        agree, and guessin' Wilson is likely a day two prospect.... have seen him listed as day three/round four prospect a time or coupla few as well,

        (the second half of that mock gave me some problems, as guessing there are gonna be more linemen added than I have listed, but like to do them just to get a real sense of what's really the likelihood w/some of the position groups, as had slotted more than a coupla few of the CBs round/day two, and.... they may go off the board sooner than that ?)

        wonder who that round three value pick @wideout is this year.... Jolt likes Brenden Rice ??
        I do. He has had a good season. He has good size and he has speed. I have him 4th round right now but thinking he can climb to the 3rd from the combine. A lot of time to go still 3-4 for him. Don't think his Daddy is gonna like him being a Charger though. I wouldnt with this ownership.
        Legette also 4th round.

        We need more picks!
        1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
        2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
        3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
        ✓
        4. CJ West DT Indiana
        5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
        6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
        6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
        6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
        6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
        7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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        • DerwinBosa
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          • Feb 2022
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          Ultimately I want the defensive line addressed in the draft. Add another young pass-rusher to Tuli and an impact defensive tackle. I hope we can find those types of players in the first two rounds.

          If we get a real head coach in the offseason (Harbaugh) I think the guys we currently have on the offensive line will play a lot better next year. We could definitely add a center, but I would like to see how the four young starters we currently have develop under Harbaugh. Strengthening the defensive line should be the top priority after we hire a real head coach, as far as I'm concerned.

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          • C'monchargers
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            • Feb 2019
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            Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

            agree, and guessin' Wilson is likely a day two prospect.... have seen him listed as day three/round four prospect a time or coupla few as well,

            (the second half of that mock gave me some problems, as guessing there are gonna be more linemen added than I have listed, but like to do them just to get a real sense of what's really the likelihood w/some of the position groups, as had slotted more than a coupla few of the CBs round/day two, and.... they may go off the board sooner than that ?)

            wonder who that round three value pick @wideout is this year.... Jolt likes Brenden Rice ??
            BTW T'Vondre Sweat on your initial cluster was probably my only go to in NT in this draft, but he is too big and measure too well to be drafted at the right value judging by how the season is going.
            Last edited by C'monchargers; 11-21-2023, 06:13 AM.

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            • Formula 21
              The Future is Now
              • Jun 2013
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              Why should we ever spend a #1 on a CB if we generally play them 8 yards off the receiver?
              Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
              Let’s win one for Mack.

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              • beachcomber
                & ramblin' man
                • Jan 2019
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                Originally posted by C'monchargers View Post

                BTW T'Vondre Sweat on your initial cluster was probably my only go to in NT in this draft, but he is too big and measure too well to be drafted at the right value judging by how the season is going.
                think NTs are most always overvalued, and my sense is that most any of 'em worth drafting are mostly gone by early in the second, and so.... if he was there for our second, would give heavy consideration to NT there, albeit the OC is a priority if Van Pran is still on the board, and.... given we could get a second for Bosa ??
                ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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                • beachcomber
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                  • Jan 2019
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                  Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post
                  Ultimately I want the defensive line addressed in the draft. Add another young pass-rusher to Tuli and an impact defensive tackle. I hope we can find those types of players in the first two rounds.
                  is there a pass rusher outside of Laiatu that stands out for you ?? and ditto re: an impact DT besides Jer'Zhan Newton ??

                  seems like those are the two guys, no ??

                  and round two.... got your eye on anyone in particular ?? any interest in the NT T'Vondre Sweat ??
                  ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                  TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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                  • beachcomber
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                    • Jan 2019
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                    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                    I do. He has had a good season. He has good size and he has speed. I have him 4th round right now but thinking he can climb to the 3rd from the combine. A lot of time to go still 3-4 for him. Don't think his Daddy is gonna like him being a Charger though. I wouldnt with this ownership.
                    Legette also 4th round.

                    We need more picks!
                    you think Legette lasts 'til day three/round four ?? and have seen Rice slotted day three/rounds four & five ??

                    any interest in Sturdivant @all ?? do you think Bru McCoy gets drafted ?? would you bring him in as an UDFA ??

                    ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                    TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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                    • beachcomber
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                      • Jan 2019
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                      Originally posted by Fleet 1 View Post

                      Beebe and Sanders may make 1st round. I have them tucked away in that range. Maybe a move back. I could see them climb.

                      Odunze, Sanders, Beebe and Isaac in that scenario.
                      some peoples have Coleman ahead of Odunze.... wonder what Nutty thinks 'bout that ?? (he was touting Odunze quite a bit last go 'round)

                      and are Nabers and/or Egbuka worthy of top half of the first consideration as well ??
                      ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                      TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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                      • beachcomber
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                        • Jan 2019
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                        Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post
                        Is RB Bucky Irving going under the radar? He has some real power for his size. Also a very patient runner and has good hands. Not to mention averaging over 6 YPC over the last 2 years.
                        Mar'Keise Irving

                        not an every down back, not an overly patient runner, and doesn't always run on schedule, some question his pass blocking, not a pile pusher, some question his long speed, not better than Austin, and prolly an Ekeler lite.

                        is fun to watch, is slippery and has short area quicks, is a jumpcutter that can't drive 55, as once he hits 60, he don't slow down for nuthin'.... yards after contact and missed tackle rate are impressive, is a bit of a hybrid receiver w/a Warrick Dunn compare, and prolly falls within the Chargers sweet spot/wheelhouse, somewhere in the third round ??

                        think the temptation is to get someone like him to replace Ek, and.... am ok w/Kelley in that role if we re sign him, and.... RB by committee has its advantages, albeit am more after two backs that can carry the load, as we will still have the Dot going forward as well.

                        guess you could put him in your round three cluster if you fancied him as such, and personally.... would put him in as the caboose of the bunch (behind Trey Sermon).



                        ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                        TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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                        • beachcomber
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                          • Jan 2019
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                          PFF Big Board rankings as of turkey week....

                          1) Bowers, Latu, Joe Alt, Jer'Zhan, Rome, Kool Aid, Verse, Trice, Cooper DeJean, Coleman, Egbuka, Tuimoloau/35
                          2) Ja'Tavion Sanders, Denzel Burke, Jonathan Brooks, Trey Benson/68, T'Vondre Sweat/75
                          3) Kingsley Suamataia, Brenden Rice/97, J Michael Sturdivant/99, Sedrick Van Pran/100, Bucky Irving/103
                          4) OG Donovan Jackson/139, Cedric Gray/147, Cooper Beebe/149
                          5) Joe Milton, Cade Stover, Jaheim Bell, Bru McCoy
                          6) Raheim Sanders/183, Miyan Williams, QB Sam Hartman, LB Ty'Ron Hopper
                          7) Zion Tupuola Fetui, TE Brevyn Spann Ford, CB Fentrell Cypress II, LB Eric Gentry

                          position wise, wouldn't be an all bad draft.... ED, NT, OC, LB, TE, RB, LB

                          edit >> unless you're lookin' for CB/RT,
                          ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                          TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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