2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Boltnut]

If you want to run the ball then better get OGs and blocking TE, not a RT. Pipkins has trouble with elite edge rushers. Guess what so do 90 percent of other RTs in the NFL.
That's why you need a TE to help out in those situations. And by the way we had trouble converting on 3rd downs in critical situations where the other team blitzed. We failed
to pick up the blitzing safety. That's a problem with Herbert and coaching, not realizing pre-snap where the pressure is coming from and adjusting. And you know what it came
mostly from the left side, not the right.

Here's a better idea... get a RT that can run/pass block and doesn't need help. No more playing 10 v 11.

[Boltnut]

That was another Staley head scratching, ill fated decision.

Based on what we saw of Pipkens in week #17 when filling in for Slater,
and then them sticking Norton out at RT that final week to be beaten into a fine paste by Max Crosby;
it probably cost the Chargers the playoffs.

IIRC, Pipkins got beaten into a fine paste by Crosby, too.
How about we get OT's that don't get beaten into fine pastes...

[Boltnut]

Sayler moved to LT at Geogia and played plenty of games there, not just two as been mentioned. In fact he played LT for us while Slater was out, and did a good
job. Sayler at OG for us, not so good. Salyer was a top 50 O line guy at Georgia while playing OT, not OG. He was brought in as an OG, but switched to LT and
excelled there.

Only 2 games @RT. Gotta read the fine print. He played @RG zero game in college. Not surprised it was an adjustment.

[DerwinBosa]

Well, that shows the value of the line, both O and D...

In 24 years as the Patriots' head coach, Bill Belichick used six first-round picks on defensive linemen and four on the offensive line. He used two first-round picks on tight ends (Daniel Graham and Benjamin Watson) and one on a wide receiver (N'Keal Harry). From 2001 through 2004 he used first-round picks on Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, and Vince Wilfork, all of them in the top 15. Belichick got left tackle Matt Light in the second round of the same draft he took Seymour.

Invest in both side of the lines with successful high picks, and great things will happen.

[charger1_sj]

Andy Reid has been a head coach for 25 years. His teams have spent two first-round picks on wide receivers (Jeremy Maclin and Freddie Mitchell with the Eagles) and none on tight ends. Reid's teams have spent nine first-round picks on defensive lineman, and traded a first-round pick for pass-rusher Frank Clark. Reid's teams have spent three first-round picks on offensive linemen, including the 2013 first overall pick on offensive tackle Eric Fisher. The Chiefs also traded a first-round pick for offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

Fisher never worked out and the Chiefs don't win this year's SB without Kelce, their TE. So there's that.

[DerwinBosa]

Fisher never worked out and the Chiefs don't win this year's SB without Kelce, their TE. So there's that.

Fisher never worked out? He was their left tackle for eight years, including the Super Bowl victory over the 49ers (first time). He made two Pro Bowls. The Chiefs got BLOWN OUT in the Super Bowl Eric Fisher was injured against the Bucs, leading them to trade a first-round pick for Orlando Brown the following offseason. Travis Kelce played in that 31-9 blowout loss in the Super Bowl against the Bucs, leading the Chiefs in receiving. So there's that, too.

[charger1_sj]

Only 2 games @RT. Gotta read the fine print. He played @RG zero game in college. Not surprised it was an adjustment.

False info. Sayler played 2 games at RT in 2019. He played LT for 9 games in 2020. He also played a few games at center, and OG. Until
he was moved to LT in 2020.

[charger1_sj]

Here's a better idea... get a RT that can run/pass block and doesn't need help. No more playing 10 v 11.

There less than a handful of NFL RTs that don't need help against Crosby. You should watch more Raider games to see how teams handle
Crosby.

On the other hand we need another receiver not named Allen that we can rely on.

Now whether Pipkins, Alt, Sayler or some other guy plays RT, I'll guarantee you our O line plays better from day 1 in 2024. Want to know why?
We finally have a real HC and supporting staff that knows what they are doing.

[charger1_sj]

Fisher never worked out? He was their left tackle for eight years, including the Super Bowl victory over the 49ers (first time). He made two Pro Bowls. The Chiefs got BLOWN OUT in the Super Bowl Eric Fisher was injured against the Bucs, leading them to trade a first-round pick for Orlando Brown the following offseason. Travis Kelce played in that 31-9 blowout loss in the Super Bowl against the Bucs, leading the Chiefs in receiving. So there's that, too.

He did not work out at RT. I should have been more specific. He played LT in college, like Alt he was a grade A 1st rounded. Busted at RT and Ried put him back at LT
where he belonged. The argument being you and others want to draft a LT and move him to RT. Didn't work for the Chiefs. That was the point.

[Boltjolt]

Clapp/Jaimes, Slayer and Zion all still worse than Pipkins.

[Lefty2SLO]

Andy Reid has been a head coach for 25 years. His teams have spent two first-round picks on wide receivers (Jeremy Maclin and Freddie Mitchell with the Eagles) and none on tight ends. Reid's teams have spent nine first-round picks on defensive lineman, and traded a first-round pick for pass-rusher Frank Clark. Reid's teams have spent three first-round picks on offensive linemen, including the 2013 first overall pick on offensive tackle Eric Fisher. The Chiefs also traded a first-round pick for offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

I sense that you're trying to make a point here . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[Leslie Grossman]

I sense that you're trying to make a point here . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The greatest offensive mind in the game is a trencher.
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