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  • jox g
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    • Oct 2020
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    Nevermind that Herbert is why Harbaugh wanted to come here in the first place.
    Played the "facade" card? Built up JJMcarthy as being the #1 QB prospect who should be drafted card for a reason?

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    • Lone Bolt
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      • Feb 2019
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      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

      If Minnesota trades 11 and 23 for our 5...that would be very good. They dont have a 3rd but looks like 11 and 23 nets us a fair deal for a QB.
      I said before...Vikings arent going to make moves to acquire that bounty, unless they have a handshake deal to move up to a spot that gets them their guy...and moving to 5 is no lock to get one of the top 4...somebody could trade with Arizona and trump them...

      They acquired 23, to go with their 5, because someone quoted a price, so they went out and started getting the resources to pay that price. Could be 4th pick, and they are targeting JJ...but my gut tells me higher...
      Lone Bolt's Final Mock

      Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

      Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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      • dmac_bolt
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        Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

        I said before...Vikings arent going to make moves to acquire that bounty, unless they have a handshake deal to move up to a spot that gets them their guy...and moving to 5 is no lock to get one of the top 4...somebody could trade with Arizona and trump them...

        They acquired 23, to go with their 5 11, because someone quoted a price, so they went out and started getting the resources to pay that price. Could be 4th pick, and they are targeting JJ...but my gut tells me higher...
        they won't make a #5 swap trade until #5 is on the clock, agree. We won't know if we trade down with anyone until we're on the clock - the only time I've ever seen the swap trade announced early is when its for the #1 pick and its guaranteed the target will be there. its quite possible there's a verbal agreement from a team or teams? in which they say: "if our guy is there, this is what we'll give you for your #5". Smart to work that out ahead of time as the clock keeps ticking.

        (typo - we got what you meant)
        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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        • Boltjolt
          Dont let the PBs fool ya
          • Jun 2013
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          Originally posted by jox g View Post

          Played the "facade" card? Built up JJMcarthy as being the #1 QB prospect who should be drafted card for a reason?
          Or maybe it was for someone trading up to 5 for him.If we get Minnesotas 11 and 23 for 5 then i guess it worked. Who wants to be known as the HC and GM that traded Herbert at 25 and not even in his prime yet?

          Geezus man we get enough negative publicity.

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          • Boltjolt
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            Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

            I said before...Vikings arent going to make moves to acquire that bounty, unless they have a handshake deal to move up to a spot that gets them their guy...and moving to 5 is no lock to get one of the top 4...somebody could trade with Arizona and trump them...

            They acquired 23, to go with their 5, because someone quoted a price, so they went out and started getting the resources to pay that price. Could be 4th pick, and they are targeting JJ...but my gut tells me higher...
            They could but AZ WRs are shit. They have MHJ in their pocket right now after upgrading a OT spot. Anything is possible but AZ already has the most picks with 13.

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            • dmac_bolt
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              They could but AZ WRs are shit. They have MHJ in their pocket right now after upgrading a OT spot. Anything is possible but AZ already has the most picks with 13.
              at some point, more picks is a waste as you won't find that many roster spots. there's always gonna be room for a player drafted at 11 and 23 but I hope their FO is on the hot seat to make Murray work, and their WR incentive is irresistable.

              IF NE skips their chance for a franchise QB to trade back, they are doomed for another 5-10 years. you cannot skip on a franchise QB if you don't have one imo.
              “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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              • beachcomber
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                • Jan 2019
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                11 + 23 = Az not LAC.... sorry,
                ED Matayo Uiagalelei, CB Domani Jackson,​​ OG Earnest Greene III,​ DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                ED Malcom Koonce, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, QB Gardner Minshew, TE Jelani Woods,​ P Matt Araiza

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                • HB Chargers
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                  Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                  at some point, more picks is a waste as you won't find that many roster spots. there's always gonna be room for a player drafted at 11 and 23 but I hope their FO is on the hot seat to make Murray work, and their WR incentive is irresistable.

                  IF NE skips their chance for a franchise QB to trade back, they are doomed for another 5-10 years. you cannot skip on a franchise QB if you don't have one imo.
                  The other side of that coin is that getting a "franchise" QB when you have nothing around him may only ruin the guy (see Mac Jones after year 1, Bryce Young, Justin Fields, David Carr, etc.). The Pats may want to build their roster first and then go get the QB.

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                  • SAY OW 55
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                    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                    Maye likely gone but JJ and Daniel could be the pick. Would be nice trade for us for 11 & 23
                    No that’s the point. We aren’t trading back. They likely will trade up to 4 to try to get Maye. We get Harrison Jr. at 5

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                    • SAY OW 55
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                      I told y’all I saw Drake Maye I saw Patrick Mahomes in Drake Maye.

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                      • HB Chargers
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                        Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post

                        No that’s the point. We aren’t trading back. They likely will trade up to 4 to try to get Maye. We get Harrison Jr. at 5
                        Is this assuming McCarthy goes at 3 (if Maye is still there at 4)? I have a hard time believing AZ is going to trade their pick for anything less than an absolute ransom with MHJ waiting for them. Minny is either going to trade up with the Pats for #3 or come up to 5 or 6 to get McCarthy (which would be dumb, IMO). Or just pick Nix or Penix at 23.

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                        • SAY OW 55
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                          The last time a team traded up like this to get a guy was Patrick Mahomes. Wasn’t the top guy but the guy that people were raving.

                          Im throwing out all the Trey Lance Stuff and Bryce Young.

                          But I see the scenario. The Vikings were cool with telling their Franchise Quarterback to kick rocks.

                          Drake Maye can be a Franchise Quarterback.

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