And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[Fouts2herbert]

Bowers doesn’t want to play for the Chargers. He wants to be a Titan.

?wha?

[Fouts2herbert]

here's the link to the interview with Brock Bowers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUIfx6FbKRk

[beachcomber]

It's the draft, you still have to project a lot of stuff and even the best drafting teams miss sometimes...

as mentioned before think the likes of Alt, Fashanu, Fuaga, Fautanu, Guyton and Suamataia are safer than not gambits, otherwise would steer well clear of the others round one and prolly thru day two as well.

[Fouts2herbert]

Mike Florio goaded bowers into picking a team...initially he said he would be happy with anyone drafting him and then he said he liked Tennessee because it's close to the UGA and he likes that area...seems like a really cool kid, he's got a lisp on him...

[BigBad]

we could use some speed like this

[dmac_bolt]

I'm not the original poster who says that, but here's why Pipkins is the most concerning to me.

1. He was probably the worst OL on the team. There are degrees of shitty and he's the most of it.
2. He has the longest track record of being shitty. He's had 1.25 good seasons and 3.75. I think there's a bigger chance that he's shitty compared to the others.
2A. Players generally stop improving as rapidly the longer they've been in the league. You can expect rookies, 2nd year players and even 3rd year players to improve, but at some point players are who they are. Pipkins is closer to that than Slater, Salyer, and Johnson.
3. OT is a more important position than OG. A shitty 30th percentile OG is good enough to win with. A 30th percentile OT isn't.
4. He makes the most on the OL and cutting him will produce the most cap savings and the team can sign more in FA or cut fewer guys if they replace Pipkins with a draft pick instead of Salyer or Johnson.
5. Finding a great OT is harder and generally requires a higher pick than Center or OG. If this were a thread about what to do with our 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round picks maybe there would be more focus on the interior. But to fix a problem at OT, it generally requires a 1st rounder to be confident in finding a solution.
6. Trey has been on the team the longest and had a large variety of improvements to the team that could have helped him and for the most part, didn't. He's struggled with different QBs, under different head coaches, different OCs, and a range of OL coaches. It's harder to believe it's an outside factor that's holding him back compared to a Zion Johnson or Salyer.
7. He's been at RT for awhile. Zion and Salyer both moved positions last year. There may be a learning curve and can improve as their bodies and minds get used to it.

So those are some reasons why it makes sense to worry more about Pipkins in this thread than any of the other OL.

There are no Pip cap savings possible this year. Next year yes. Might as well keep him as a swing backup even if you do get a new starting RT

[Fouts2herbert]

we could use some speed like this

Harbaugh wants the guy wearing the #2 jersey, he put that DB on his ass...

[Boltjolt]

Bowers doesn’t want to play for the Chargers. He wants to be a Titan.

Not what he said. He said he likes Tennessee after going there with Georgia so he wouldn't mind going to the Titans.

He also said it would be awesome to play for Harbaugh and play with Herbert.

He is also a Niners fan. Not going to to matter.

There is are a couple different videos..

[Leslie Grossman]

If the Giants fear that the Chargers will trade the #5 pick to a QB hungry, they can probably swap picks with the Bolts in exchange for a 3rd rounder.

Said it a week or 2 ago, Giants might want to move up for Daniels or Nabers. Down one spot to get their 3rd or 4th would be great.

[powderblueboy]

we could use some speed like this

The Texas A&M player who he outraced (#2) is Jacoby Mathews.

He's listed as running a 4.58 40 - 6'2"/215 pounds.

That doesn't tell me he's a 4.3 guy.

[AFboltfan]

You might be right. But we also needed a DT... I liked Star Lotuleilei. I thought Fluker projected as a guard.
In the end, I think it was a bad eval. TT must have seen something that made him think Fluker was a RT.
I saw Fluker get abused by a mid-round DE from Western Kentucky... that made me think... OG-only.
I think TT did the same thing with Tillery. He saw Tillery's game against Stanford... and ignored the rest.
That's what I mean by obsession... he saw something he liked and ignored the rest.

I'm still salty to this day that we didn't take Star.

[Fouts2herbert]

Not what he said. He said he likes Tennessee after going there with Georgia so he wouldn't mind going to the Titans.

He also said it would be awesome to play for Harbaugh and play with Herbert.

He is also a Niners fan. Not going to to matter.

There is are a couple different videos..

I wish people would stop trying to turn this into a story, he's not pulling a Eli Manning, he was just horsing around with Chris Simms and Mike Florio and those buttheads got him to drop his guard, after saying that he would be happy getting drafted anywhere he said he wouldn't mind staying in the area where the went to college which is closer to where the Titans play than where the Falcons play...He's a NorCal kid that fell in love with that part of the country...