And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[Icebolt]

It's a nice class for sure, but it lacks a true alpha, no Sewell's in this year's crop...

Which is why you trade back. We need multiple ( 4-5 ) starters out of this draft to fix multiple spots. We may not get the best at those positions but we don't need it at this point. Sure glad we have #5 to trade down with!!

[Fouts2herbert]

Which is why you trade back. We need multiple ( 4-5 ) starters out of this draft to fix multiple spots. We may not get the best at those positions but we don't need it at this point. Sure glad we have #5 to trade down with!!

One of the charger podcast guys said that Hortiz hasn't had a top 5 pick in Baltimore in the last two decades, he's accustomed to getting great players in the 20-28 range every year, so yeah, it makes sense to let him work the draft to get the most 'value' out of that #5 pick, I'd rather have a guy like Hortiz have 2-3 at bats than just the one with the #5, that's TT type shit, this guy will get more out of that pick, I know he will...

[eaterfan]

I understand the talk from the organization that they want to compete this year, but it's a two year rebuild. They hopefully won't be garbage this year, but they need upgrades at C, RB, TE, RT, LB, FS for this year (assuming neither OG spot is a dumpster fire). Edge, IDL, and WR will need some help in coming years depending on cuts.

That's just too much for 1 year with not much cap money.

I hope they are planning on building better this year and really competing the year after. That way they don't have to feel pressure to fill every hole with a long term answer and find some cheaper stop gap options in FA.

[BigBad]

Here we go

https://youtu.be/fAn_FFNL8pk?si=XB0b6Cy1xdm3Yy_F

[richpjr]

I saw an interesting (and likely very unrealistic, but what the hell) trade proposal: if one of the QBs the Falcons really want is on the board when our pick comes up, would you swap our pick for their pick plus Bijan?

[Topcat]

Here we go

https://youtu.be/fAn_FFNL8pk?si=XB0b6Cy1xdm3Yy_F

That burst by Nabors at 11:40 where he just leaves the CB in the dust...just...wow...

[Boltjolt]

so these trade downs are all for 2025 draft compensation? because you have to add the cost of signing additional picks received in 2024 draft in trade for the #5 into the mix...getting an extra second or a couple of thirds or whatever, it all adds up too, besides 32 mil is misleading, the way the #5 money would be going into the books it won't hit the 2024 cap at 32mil, it'll be a much smaller cap hit (5-7mil?) I'm not sure how much but it won't be the reason they trade down, in the days before the fixed rookie contracts, yes, in those days teams did trade out of those picks for cap reasons...

Its the overall value of the 5 slot(32m) The cap hit is like 6 his rookie year. By trading down 3 spots the entire contract value is 10 m less and the cap hit is lower by 2.2 m. Thats a big gap. Top 5 picks are expensive but teams needing a QB wont mind as much as they consider those figures cheap for them.

Draft picks in round 2 and below are cheap players so that wont effect us being able to add 2 second or a couple of thirds as we would be losing the higher value in the first round. Our 2nd round pick cap hit for example will be under 2 mil(1.9), 3rd rounder just above 1 m(1.1) which is kinda like a vet minimum deal or slightly lower than a vet deal.

Those are OTC figures.

[21&500]

Maybe we should listen to Steve Smith this time?

[sonorajim]

One of the charger podcast guys said that Hortiz hasn't had a top 5 pick in Baltimore in the last two decades, he's accustomed to getting great players in the 20-28 range every year, so yeah, it makes sense to let him work the draft to get the most 'value' out of that #5 pick, I'd rather have a guy like Hortiz have 2-3 at bats than just the one with the #5, that's TT type shit, this guy will get more out of that pick, I know he will...

Hortiz is Einstein Batman in charge during the draft. He'll do what he thinks best for the 2024 Chargers and beyond.

We may be surprised, maybe not. I totally support his choices whatever they may be. Now.

If he passes on a player that's all world as a rookie for someone else and Harbaugh doesn't even make the playoffs, he's a POS.

All the changes aren't about someday being better. The time is NOW and the clock's ticking. Get your ducks in a row Joe.

[Boltjolt]

I saw an interesting (and likely very unrealistic, but what the hell) trade proposal: if one of the QBs the Falcons really want is on the board when our pick comes up, would you swap our pick for their pick plus Bijan?

And their #8? Hell yeah. But just for Bijan, no. Maybe another pick as well. This cant be cheap

[CanadianBoltFan]

I saw an interesting (and likely very unrealistic, but what the hell) trade proposal: if one of the QBs the Falcons really want is on the board when our pick comes up, would you swap our pick for their pick plus Bijan?

Uh yes

[gzubeck]

And their #8? Hell yeah. But just for Bijan, no. Maybe another pick as well. This cant be cheap

I was thinking you would have to get them our #2 pick at #37 to get that deal. Hell, yes that would be stealing from them without giving them our second rounder. Maybe give them our third rounder would be somewhat fair. It would solve some of our RB problems.