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  • Chargers8491
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    Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post
    So a trade that happened in 2014 could give us an idea what the chargers could get if the Vikes move up to 5.

    In 2014 the Bills traded up from pick 9 to pick 4 to take Sammy Watkins. The Bills got in return, the 9th pick in 2014, a 2015 1st and a 2015 4th. So the Chargers should be able to get 11, 23 and a future pick as well.
    I would be absolutely surprised if the Vikings hadn't talked to team about trading up before they made the trade to add another 1st rnd pick. This leads me to believe they have a handshake deal with either the Chargers or Cards if their player is there. I just can't see the Pats or Coms trading out of #2 or #3 when they need a QB just has bad as the Vikings.
    1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
    2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
    2b- #37 Jenkins DT
    3a- #66 Puni OT
    3b- #69 Sainristill CB
    4a- #105 Rice WR
    4b- #110 Lloyd RB
    5- #140 Green CB
    6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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    • Jack Burton
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      Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

      I would be absolutely surprised if the Vikings hadn't talked to team about trading up before they made the trade to add another 1st rnd pick. This leads me to believe they have a handshake deal with either the Chargers or Cards if their player is there. I just can't see the Pats or Coms trading out of #2 or #3 when they need a QB just has bad as the Vikings.
      I gotta think that is accurate. So much so that 23 or within a pick of 23 above or below was specifically part of the deal and both AZ and LAC wanted it because that pick opens up a whole lot of options for whoever gets it in terms of trading down from that pick.
      There will still be top tier OT’s, C’s, CB’s and WR’s sitting at 23…

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      • Kylars
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        Tidbit from Arjun on X. Estime surprised me.

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        • Bolt4Knob
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          Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

          I gotta think that is accurate. So much so that 23 or within a pick of 23 above or below was specifically part of the deal and both AZ and LAC wanted it because that pick opens up a whole lot of options for whoever gets it in terms of trading down from that pick.
          There will still be top tier OT’s, C’s, CB’s and WR’s sitting at 23…
          Agree with you and 8491
          You do not make this move without having a good idea of being able to move up and the Cardinals, even though they have plenty of draft capital - might want more
          Personally, I hope they want MHJr and the Chargers can trade back

          If Prater makes that FG - Chargers would be 4th
          he probably got a bonus for missing

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          • eaterfan
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            Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

            Agree with you and 8491
            You do not make this move without having a good idea of being able to move up and the Cardinals, even though they have plenty of draft capital - might want more
            Personally, I hope they want MHJr and the Chargers can trade back

            If Prater makes that FG - Chargers would be 4th
            he probably got a bonus for missing
            If the Chargers had the 4th pick, my head would be saying trade back... but it would be so hard to pass on Harrison.

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            • Topcat
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              Originally posted by Kylars View Post
              Tidbit from Arjun on X. Estime surprised me.

              image.png
              Corum and Shipley didn't score too well...

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              • Chargers8491
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                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                Agree with you and 8491
                You do not make this move without having a good idea of being able to move up and the Cardinals, even though they have plenty of draft capital - might want more
                Personally, I hope they want MHJr and the Chargers can trade back

                If Prater makes that FG - Chargers would be 4th
                he probably got a bonus for missing
                Don't sleep on Penix. I know we have been talking about top 4 QBs, but some scouts have him in the top 3 QBs. Don't be surprised on draft day if the top 4 picks are QBs we see a trade between the Chargers and Raiders so they can move up to take Penix.
                1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
                2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
                2b- #37 Jenkins DT
                3a- #66 Puni OT
                3b- #69 Sainristill CB
                4a- #105 Rice WR
                4b- #110 Lloyd RB
                5- #140 Green CB
                6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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                • Jack Burton
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                  Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                  Don't sleep on Penix. I know we have been talking about top 4 QBs, but some scouts have him in the top 3 QBs. Don't be surprised on draft day if the top 4 picks are QBs we see a trade between the Chargers and Raiders so they can move up to take Penix.
                  You think that the chargers would trade with a divisional rival?
                  For a franchise QB? I dunno, man…..

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                  • Chargers8491
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                    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                    You think that the chargers would trade with a divisional rival?
                    For a franchise QB? I dunno, man…..
                    Honestly, I have no faith in the Raiders to develop a QB. Plus, I would ask for a kings ransom from the Raiders.
                    1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
                    2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
                    2b- #37 Jenkins DT
                    3a- #66 Puni OT
                    3b- #69 Sainristill CB
                    4a- #105 Rice WR
                    4b- #110 Lloyd RB
                    5- #140 Green CB
                    6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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                    • Jack Burton
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                      Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                      Honestly, I have no faith in the Raiders to develop a QB. Plus, I would ask for a kings ransom from the Raiders.
                      OK, then that’s fine. As long as you get that Kings ransom. Cause you are not the guy whose going to go down in this deal as the dude who gave them the QB who beats us twice a year. No freaking way.

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                      • dmac_bolt
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                        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                        I am too the point that cannot go wrong

                        If the Vikings pass up the Chargers and head to AZ for the 4th pick - Chargers get Nabors or MHJr

                        If they trade back - they get 11 and 23

                        win win
                        I keep reading more and more negs on Nabers. Add in the majority of his damage was from the slot against team’s #3 CB … idunno anymore. I wish I was smart.

                        I’m leaning to Odunze if I was handcuffed and ordered to take WR and MHJ is off the board. Or go back to my first love - Bowers. Imagine Bowers or Odunze with the new hip drop tackle rule …
                        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post
                          So a trade that happened in 2014 could give us an idea what the chargers could get if the Vikes move up to 5.

                          In 2014 the Bills traded up from pick 9 to pick 4 to take Sammy Watkins. The Bills got in return, the 9th pick in 2014, a 2015 1st and a 2015 4th. So the Chargers should be able to get 11, 23 and a future pick as well.
                          MIN won’t trade up to 5 for a WR and give up that much capital. If their QB is already gone, that trade goes poof.

                          And is a future 1 + future 4 worth a current 1? Beats me, i am thinking no.
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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