2020 NFL Draft Discussion

[Charge!]

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Interesting..... just re-watched his highlight films...... he runs with power and gets caught from behind, but appears to run faster than that 4.65 time so maybe that new time is closer to reality.... unless PAC 12 competition is not very good or fast......

[Charge!]

thanx Fleet,

one guy that has flown below the draft radar is their new metrics guy.... wonder if Hayre has any plans to interview him ??

still like Telesco, still think he's got some cat herder to him.... my question is can we stop repeating the same mistakes come draft time ??

we cannot go into next season w/the same holes/questions we had going into last season, i.e. the health of Okung/Pouncey.

we need a hedge against Bulaga's health, Pipkins inexperience, Lamp's uncertainty, Trai's contract demands, Qberry's middling.

if he stays "loyal" to his guys.... Feeney, Lamp, Tevi, Pouncey, and.... ?? he's got to turn the page.

we need Jason Peters or a solid LT, we need Tristan Wirfs (or the like) to supplant Lamp or whoever needs reinforcements.

we cannot leave the ? that is Mike Pouncey unaddressed prior to the regular season.... we have to plug/answer all ?s/holes on the Oline…. paramount, and way more important than getting sexier in the defensive backfield or getting a maybe QB for Tinseltown…. not good GMing.

team TommyJohn also needs to shuffle the deck that is their scouting department.... there are obviously guys that are not carrying their weight.

still think/suspect the answer is John Dorsey or the like to further mentor young John, and not sure Tom wouldn't benefit from a(nother) young up 'n comer as Asst GM ??

All true, except that QB is and always has been, by far and away the most important player on a football team...... and it is even more true today. The rules have made it almost impossible to play defense and a great passing QB with great quick decision making, great consistent accuracy and a lightning release basically neutralizes any ouside pass rushers....the passes are gone too quickly.

With today's rules, the most important positions on a football team are great aggressive HC, great QB, great CB's(because you need to be able to cover receivers long enough for pass rush to have a chance), and Inside pass rushers(because they are only ones who have a shot at getting to QB before 2 seconds and ball are gone)..... Bellycheat has built his teams with top QB, and a quick play offense...... and great CB's and safeties while generating inside pass rush by design, not by spending huge money on outside pass rushers.....

In my opinion as well as many experts, there are 2 generational QB's in this draft(Tua and Burrow), if we fail to acquire one of those QB's, then we will be forced to take BPA on defense or the OL, since none of the other QB's in this draft are anywhere close to a sure thing...... If we dont have a great difference making QB, I would rather have none and suck well enough to have a shot at a QB, rather than acquire a vet who can get us to 7-9 where we will have zero chance to ever get a great QB......

Getting a great QB has to be priority number one because the type of QB you have changes the way you build the team. The right side of OL is more important than the left side for a left handed QB...... they type of QB changes the type of offense, the type of WR's, TE's and RB's that you will draft..... if you have a QB with a deep arm you need way more speed than we currently have.....

[like54ninjas]

Fleet, that was awesome. Fired me up! BOLT UP TPB!

[wu-dai clan]

Don't use logic.
Assess talent level.
THAT is tricky business.
But it is time to make the call.
Who is better ?

[Steve]

Interesting..... just re-watched his highlight films...... he runs with power and gets caught from behind, but appears to run faster than that 4.65 time so maybe that new time is closer to reality.... unless PAC 12 competition is not very good or fast......

If he gets caught from behind, does it matter how fast his 40 time is?

FWIW, and I have only watched him a little bit, but in his highlights the only time I saw him get caught from behind it took the guy the whole field to catch him. Everyone's scouting reports say he lacks long speed, but people aren't catching him and he is very efficient in the north south sense, so he gets a lot of yards if there is any room there.

I also like that on his highlight tapes, when he catches passes and turns them into big plays, they aren't all perfect passes. Frequently, he is adjusting to a pass that isn't thrown that well, and then he makes it look easy.

[Topcat]

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I like Moss. Either him or AJ Dillon for a big, bruising back to bust through for a lot of first downs and TD's...

[gzubeck]

Interesting..... just re-watched his highlight films...... he runs with power and gets caught from behind, but appears to run faster than that 4.65 time so maybe that new time is closer to reality.... unless PAC 12 competition is not very good or fast......

I like this guy. Where is he expected to go in the draft? He screams a tough NFL running back who gets you tough yardage. He could be more productive than Gordon with better blocking.

[like54ninjas]

I like this guy. Where is he expected to go in the draft? He screams a tough NFL running back who gets you tough yardage. He could be more productive than Gordon with better blocking.

He’ll go rounds 3-5.

[gzubeck]

He’ll go rounds 3-5.

He wont make it out of round three because chargers need a good tough runner badly!

[like54ninjas]

He wont make it out of round three because chargers need a good tough runner badly!

He is the only one? Mid round 3 is his ceiling. Rounds 4/5 are his sweet spot.

[gzubeck]

He is the only one? Mid round 3 is his ceiling. Rounds 4/5 are his sweet spot.

Yes, but now your competing with 4 other teams in round 4. Roll the dice baby or secure a 15-20 snap player that we need as a workhorse yesterday. Either him or Cam akers in the third...flip a coin man.

[beachcomber]

All true, except that QB is and always has been, by far and away the most important player on a football team...... and it is even more true today. The rules have made it almost impossible to play defense and a great passing QB with great quick decision making, great consistent accuracy and a lightning release basically neutralizes any ouside pass rushers....the passes are gone too quickly.

With today's rules, the most important positions on a football team are great aggressive HC, great QB, great CB's(because you need to be able to cover receivers long enough for pass rush to have a chance), and Inside pass rushers(because they are only ones who have a shot at getting to QB before 2 seconds and ball are gone)..... Bellycheat has built his teams with top QB, and a quick play offense...... and great CB's and safeties while generating inside pass rush by design, not by spending huge money on outside pass rushers.....

In my opinion as well as many experts, there are 2 generational QB's in this draft(Tua and Burrow), if we fail to acquire one of those QB's, then we will be forced to take BPA on defense or the OL, since none of the other QB's in this draft are anywhere close to a sure thing...... If we dont have a great difference making QB, I would rather have none and suck well enough to have a shot at a QB, rather than acquire a vet who can get us to 7-9 where we will have zero chance to ever get a great QB......

Getting a great QB has to be priority number one because the type of QB you have changes the way you build the team. The right side of OL is more important than the left side for a left handed QB...... they type of QB changes the type of offense, the type of WR's, TE's and RB's that you will draft..... if you have a QB with a deep arm you need way more speed than we currently have.....

are you inferring/implying that Tua is a "sure" thing ??

and Tua as a "generational" QB is just plain and simple not a shared opinion.

and didn't we have a QB that was a quick decision maker, consistently accurate, had a quick release, and could read a defense as well as most any QB in the NFL, and.... exactly when did that neutralize our fledgling Olinemen who left the door open on our Oline more than a coupla few times a game, half, quarter, series, and/or.... ??

eye think it's been pretty well established that you can make it to, if not win, a SB w/a less than generational QB.... Stan Humphries & friends say hello.