How Will The Offense Change This Season With Tyrod Taylor?

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  • sonorajim
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    #73
    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    How effective the offense is going to be is a lot to do with how well the OL plays. 5 of 11 players on the offense play line, so if 45% of the offense is not very good, the offense is not very good. No amount of game planning or play calling can fix that.

    We have great skill players. We had great skill players last year, but it didn't help that much.

    The Chargers can start to score more points by getting better field position, and back up the other team to help our D. But in the end, the roster needs to get better across the board, year after year. Draft and develop.
    No argument with draft & develop. There is no staying in place, if we aren't moving forward, we're falling behind.

    "5 of 11 ~~not very good" doesn't describe this year's OL. 3 FA Pro Bowl vets, 2 "draft & develop" players. BUT.. the OT depth may be kinda sketchy. We appear to be betting on long shots there. Lamp, Feeney, Tevi, Quis and Pipkins were honest OL draft attempts in 2017-'19 no matter how they work out but more needed. Gotta keep OL in the chain. Too many years went by with no OL draft success.
    I like the OL Coach Campen addition to our draft & Develop effort. Seems like a move up. This could be a year where the OL is respectable.

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    • sonorajim
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      #74
      Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View Post
      I just watched NE/LAR Superbowl.
      13 points was enough to win that game !
      6 points would have been enough.
      NE was the best scoring defense in the NFL in 2018.
      KC wasn't that much better than SF last year but they were the better scoring D in reg season and in the SB.
      "Defense Wins Championships" in the modern NFL.

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      • gzubeck
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        #75
        Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View Post
        I just watched NE/LAR Superbowl.
        13 points was enough to win that game !
        6 points would have been enough.
        That was one of the worst superbowls in the last 10 years. The Rams had nothing on offense. I would not want the chargers to even go to the superbowl if they played like that!
        Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

        "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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        • sonorajim
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          #76
          Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

          That was one of the worst superbowls in the last 10 years. The Rams had nothing on offense. I would not want the chargers to even go to the superbowl if they played like that!
          Did you watch us in '94? We were dominated. I still really enjoyed the season and the wins getting there. Winning a SB is obviously better but no way I'd want to miss the wins up to then regardless of how bad we stunk in the SB.

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          • gzubeck
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            #77
            Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

            Did you watch us in '94? We were dominated. I still really enjoyed the season and the wins getting there. Winning a SB is obviously better but no way I'd want to miss the wins up to then regardless of how bad we stunk in the SB.
            It's a little fuzzy, But the 49ers jumped out on us because they feared we might make a game of it if they let us stick around. Our offense didn't stink it was our secondary where they burned us good in that game.
            Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

            "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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            • chargeroo
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              #78
              Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

              It's a little fuzzy, But the 49ers jumped out on us because they feared we might make a game of it if they let us stick around. Our offense didn't stink it was our secondary where they burned us good in that game.
              Specifically - they burned our Safeties. They did the same thing in our regular season game with them just a few weeks before the SB.
              THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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              • sonorajim
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                #79
                Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                It's a little fuzzy, But the 49ers jumped out on us because they feared we might make a game of it if they let us stick around. Our offense didn't stink it was our secondary where they burned us good in that game.
                SD 26 - SF 49
                Means ran a TD, Martin caught a TD and Coleman had a KO return TD for SD. We kicked a FG, scored 2 2pt conv, threw 3 ints
                Rice caught 3 TDs, Watters 2, Floyd 1 and Watters ran a TD in. 0 ints

                We were not the answer for Steve Young to Jerry Rice. They were special, we were outclassed.

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                • FoutsFan
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                  #80
                  Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                  It's a little fuzzy, But the 49ers jumped out on us because they feared we might make a game of it if they let us stick around. Our offense didn't stink it was our secondary where they burned us good in that game.
                  Most of the team was like you then. From what I have heard quite a few of the players were a little fuzzy and suffering from barley poisoning and hung over.

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                  • FoutsFan
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                    #81
                    Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
                    SD 26 - SF 49
                    Means ran a TD, Martin caught a TD and Coleman had a KO return TD for SD. We kicked a FG, scored 2 2pt conv, threw 3 ints
                    Rice caught 3 TDs, Watters 2, Floyd 1 and Watters ran a TD in. 0 ints

                    We were not the answer for Steve Young to Jerry Rice. They were special, we were outclassed.
                    They were not special. They cheated, one of the biggest scandals and the NFL did all they could to keep it under wraps. The 49ers felt that because they were the 49ers they did not have to obey the salary cap that was recently adopted. They signed all these players to small deals but they would pay them millions off the books/under the table. That is why after this scandal they were in cap hell for the next 10-15 years with no players. The GM was suspended.

                    they just cheated and did it for that year better than anyone else.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      #82
                      Originally posted by Steve View Post
                      How effective the offense is going to be is a lot to do with how well the OL plays. 5 of 11 players on the offense play line, so if 45% of the offense is not very good, the offense is not very good. No amount of game planning or play calling can fix that.

                      We have great skill players. We had great skill players last year, but it didn't help that much.

                      The Chargers can start to score more points by getting better field position, and back up the other team to help our D. But in the end, the roster needs to get better across the board, year after year. Draft and develop.
                      I would argue that the offense will be profoundly different.

                      You repeatedly offer myopic old school thinking. Throw in a dizzying array of coach speak and X's and O's. Your fanboys are impressed. Is it a useful football discussion ? No.

                      Steichen and Campen and Tyrod and Herbert means a wide open playbook which is surely diametrically opposed to what has been going on at LAC.

                      The Oline ? Campen has announced things will be fine tuned differently. That units "performance" will be brand spanking new.

                      Go ahead. Accurately predict Keenan Allen's and Hunter Henry's production. You cannot.

                      The key will be the decision making of the QB, which will be quite different from what it has been, and that will be far removed from what Philip Rivers was doing. No one can predict that now.

                      :mcnugget:




                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        #83
                        Shane Steichen is our OC--not Woody Hayes.

                        James Campen is our Oline coach--not Steve Loney.


                        We do not play modern football.

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                        • blueman
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                          #84
                          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                          I would argue that the offense will be profoundly different.

                          You repeatedly offer myopic old school thinking. Throw in a dizzying array of coach speak and X's and O's. Your fanboys are impressed. Is it a useful football discussion ? No.

                          Steichen and Campen and Tyrod and Herbert means a wide open playbook which is surely diametrically opposed to what has been going on at LAC.

                          The Oline ? Campen has announced things will be fine tuned differently. That units "performance" will be brand spanking new.

                          Go ahead. Accurately predict Keenan Allen's and Hunter Henry's production. You cannot.

                          The key will be the decision making of the QB, which will be quite different from what it has been, and that will be far removed from what Philip Rivers was doing. No one can predict that now.

                          :mcnugget:



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