POLL: Who Should Be The Chargers' Next Head Coach?

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  • Steve
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    One of the more important factors in a HC is what assistant's they can get. PFW once did a look at all the SB winning coaches, and EVERY team had at least 1 assistant coach who was highly regarded in addition to the HC. That goes back to the early SB teams like the Packer and Jets, who basically only had 2 or 3 assistants.

    Maybe that is the best indication, ask anyone who is an aspiring HC who they think they can get as assistants.

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    • Topcat
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      Originally posted by Steve View Post
      One of the more important factors in a HC is what assistant's they can get. PFW once did a look at all the SB winning coaches, and EVERY team had at least 1 assistant coach who was highly regarded in addition to the HC. That goes back to the early SB teams like the Packer and Jets, who basically only had 2 or 3 assistants.

      Maybe that is the best indication, ask anyone who is an aspiring HC who they think they can get as assistants.
      So, looking at our assistant coaches, we have:

      OC - Stitch - Never a HC. Never an OC at any level previously. He was only the QB coach for us before his promotion to OC. Doesn't exactly rise to the level of your "highly regarded" level.

      DC - Gus - At least Bradley does have previous DC experience, with the Seahawks' famed "Legion of Boom" defense. Some people might argue that his personnel was superior enough to allow him to be successful. As a HC with the Jags, not to successful, with a record of 14–48 record in 4 seasons, after which, he was fired. Is it possible that with a couple of shutdown cover corners and both Derwin and Trank back, that Gus would do better? Probably. But what is disturbing to me about Bradley is that you have to adapt, improvise and overcome with the personnel you DO have. And, IMHO, Gus has shown he's terribly inept at game-planning and/or making in-game adjustments based on what the opposing O is showing. Players who have played for Bradley in the past, and present say the same thing about him: He just runs the same tired, old defense, week after week. I think he needs to retire. Stick a Thanksgiving fork in him...he's done...

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      • FoutsFan
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        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

        So, looking at our assistant coaches, we have:

        OC - Stitch - Never a HC. Never an OC at any level previously. He was only the QB coach for us before his promotion to OC. Doesn't exactly rise to the level of your "highly regarded" level.

        DC - Gus - At least Bradley does have previous DC experience, with the Seahawks' famed "Legion of Boom" defense. Some people might argue that his personnel was superior enough to allow him to be successful. As a HC with the Jags, not to successful, with a record of 14–48 record in 4 seasons, after which, he was fired. Is it possible that with a couple of shutdown cover corners and both Derwin and Trank back, that Gus would do better? Probably. But what is disturbing to me about Bradley is that you have to adapt, improvise and overcome with the personnel you DO have. And, IMHO, Gus has shown he's terribly inept at game-planning and/or making in-game adjustments based on what the opposing O is showing. Players who have played for Bradley in the past, and present say the same thing about him: He just runs the same tired, old defense, week after week. I think he needs to retire. Stick a Thanksgiving fork in him...he's done...
        Bradly's D is much like Ryan's "46" it is great when you have all pro's everywhere but if you do not have glut of superior talent it does not work well. That also raises the question with that kind of talent would the defense be great no matter the scheme? For the most part any pro defensive coordinator if you give them a dearth of talent they will look great.

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        • beachcomber
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          still think Shaw is the best fit, but wonder how good a HC he is, given that he is 0-2 this year, coming off of 4-8 last year, and his recruiting class this year is ranked twice as poorly as his last class.... are players not sold on his football/coaching chops ??

          Toub is a solid in that there is no doubt that it will not be coaching that is at fault w/however our STs play, and.... if he can bring Kafka over w/him from KC, gotta think he's a pretty good mentor for JH10 ??

          add in Phillips and/or, and.... ?? how do love us now ??
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          • Boltjolt
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            Originally posted by Steve View Post
            One of the more important factors in a HC is what assistant's they can get. PFW once did a look at all the SB winning coaches, and EVERY team had at least 1 assistant coach who was highly regarded in addition to the HC. That goes back to the early SB teams like the Packer and Jets, who basically only had 2 or 3 assistants.

            Maybe that is the best indication, ask anyone who is an aspiring HC who they think they can get as assistants.
            Lol, well Spanos hires those that will keep the assistants he wants us to keep,... Like Steichen, he may want the new HC to keep that continuity which I think is BS and Steichen isn't highly regarded.
            Pep maybe but would he want to stay? Probably why we get the cheaper hires.


            I assume they won't mind losing Gus.

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            • gzubeck
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              Lol, well Spanos hires those that will keep the assistants he wants us to keep,... Like Steichen, he may want the new HC to keep that continuity which I think is BS and Steichen isn't highly regarded.
              Pep maybe but would he want to stay? Probably why we get the cheaper hires.


              I assume they won't mind losing Gus.
              Especially at an airport in a foreign country that doesn't speak English!

              Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

              "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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              • gzubeck
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                I've been catching up on watching classic Star Trek episodes and just watched this episode which profoundly exemplifies leadership qualities in Officers perfectly...here's the clip about real capability!

                Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                  Haha no, didn’t mean for us.
                  Sorry, wrong thread.
                  just thinking about the Belicheat tree giving me more hope for my guy McDaniels.
                  embarrassed a bit that I didn’t finish the connection

                  Every week I find myself drooling over other coaches
                  Josh McD wouldn't be a bad choice if Dean and the Org feel like "my god we have to have a mentor for Herbert" so lets hire another OC type. I think he has had time since Denver to mature. No doubt he has ran many different types of offenses in NE.

                  He is not on my short list but if they want offense, I sure as hell would call Josh over Kellen Moore, Joe Brady and Arthur Smith. I will put Josh back on my list

                  Jim Caldwell, Dave Toub, David Shaw, Josh McDaniels and Pagano/Allen/Schwartz/Bowles (pick your once fired DC type)

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                  • NoMoreChillies
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                    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                    Josh McD wouldn't be a bad choice if Dean and the Org feel like "my god we have to have a mentor for Herbert" so lets hire another OC type. I think he has had time since Denver to mature. No doubt he has ran many different types of offenses in NE.

                    He is not on my short list but if they want offense, I sure as hell would call Josh over Kellen Moore, Joe Brady and Arthur Smith. I will put Josh back on my list

                    Jim Caldwell, Dave Toub, David Shaw, Josh McDaniels and Pagano/Allen/Schwartz/Bowles (pick your once fired DC type)
                    after what McDaniels did to the Colts, he hasnt matured.

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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
                      still think Shaw is the best fit, but wonder how good a HC he is, given that he is 0-2 this year, coming off of 4-8 last year, and his recruiting class this year is ranked twice as poorly as his last class.... are players not sold on his football/coaching chops ??

                      Toub is a solid in that there is no doubt that it will not be coaching that is at fault w/however our STs play, and.... if he can bring Kafka over w/him from KC, gotta think he's a pretty good mentor for JH10 ??

                      add in Phillips and/or, and.... ?? how do love us now ??
                      I am not down on Shaw - might be a good time to hire him as others might not be an enamored with him. He probably can still coach

                      I doubt Toub would be able to bring Kafka because if Bieniemy gets a HC job - Big Andy probably promotes Kakfa to OC

                      I still am not sure Lynn gets fired. But after the Jets game - he should be.

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                      • 21&500
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                        Originally posted by NoMoreChillies View Post

                        after what McDaniels did to the Colts, he hasnt matured.
                        Be more positive?
                        P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
                        P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
                        P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
                        P4. Obnoxious Communication - Matlock

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                        • powderblueboy
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                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                          So, looking at our assistant coaches, we have:

                          OC - Stitch - Never a HC. Never an OC at any level previously. He was only the QB coach for us before his promotion to OC. Doesn't exactly rise to the level of your "highly regarded" level.

                          DC - Gus - At least Bradley does have previous DC experience, with the Seahawks' famed "Legion of Boom" defense. Some people might argue that his personnel was superior enough to allow him to be successful. As a HC with the Jags, not to successful, with a record of 14–48 record in 4 seasons, after which, he was fired. Is it possible that with a couple of shutdown cover corners and both Derwin and Trank back, that Gus would do better? Probably. But what is disturbing to me about Bradley is that you have to adapt, improvise and overcome with the personnel you DO have. And, IMHO, Gus has shown he's terribly inept at game-planning and/or making in-game adjustments based on what the opposing O is showing. Players who have played for Bradley in the past, and present say the same thing about him: He just runs the same tired, old defense, week after week. I think he needs to retire. Stick a Thanksgiving fork in him...he's done...
                          You forgot to include George Stewart Topcat.


                          He should be fired today. Lynn already set a precedent with the firing of Whiz last year around this time.

                          Whiz was respected among the coaching community. I wonder what the bone of contention was with him?

                          Chargers went to two playoffs in 3 1/2 years with him.

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