2021 Official Chargers Season Discusssion

[MagicMamba88]

smart to get something for them
a 3rd for Hudson
even if a 7th for Gabe Jackson - good move

they got a 5th for Gabe

[Bolt4Knob]

they got a 5th for Gabe

yes, I had to edit my post

i mean for dumping contracts - they got decent value

[Xenos]

so wait i thought they released Gabe and Rodney Hudson?

now all of sudden they're trading them

The cut for Gabe Jackson and Hudson were not official. It was probably leaked beforehand.

[21&500]

Been watching Orlando Brown Jr at LT, he holds up well, and doesn't seem to ever need TE blocking/chipping help
footwork looks smooth, not Stanley smooth but decent for a behemoth
We don't have to extend him immediately, we can rent him for a year and offer him a solid contract next year if it's a fit.
This is the last move on the OL for me in FA

[Boltjolt]

smart to get something for them
a 3rd for Hudson
and a 5th for Jackson
decent trades for dumping players

Yes and they are decent players, especially Hudson. No idea wth Mayock and Gruden are doing gutting their OL like that. And then they resign 37 year old Incognito who missed every game but 1 or 2

[Critty]

Who knows. I just knew that our cap situation wasn’t right until AJ took over. And that the cap problem was an ongoing thing with Butler going back to his Buffalo days. Also LT and Brees were 2001, while 2002 was Jammer.

You right about the years. And he did draft Jammer as well.
He certainly nailed his early picks. Two 1st Ballot hall of famers and a multi year pro bowl QB.
If you win then the Cap problem is a good problem to have.

[Sgt Schultz]

Been watching OBJ at LT, he holds up well, and doesn't seem to ever need TE blocking/chipping help
footwork looks smooth, not Stanley smooth but decent for a behemoth
We don't have to extend him immediately, we can rent him for a year and offer him a solid contract next year if it's a fit.
This is the last move on the OL for me in FA

Who is OBJ at LT?

[Xenos]

You right about the years. And he did draft Jammer as well.
He certainly nailed his early picks. Two 1st Ballot hall of famers and a multi year pro bowl QB.
If you win then the Cap problem is a good problem to have.

But we weren’t winning though under Butler. When we finally managed our cap under AJ, that’s when things took off.

[Xenos]

Who is OBJ at LT?

Orlando Brown Jr.

[21&500]

Who is OBJ at LT?

Sorry, Orlando Brown Jr
might be available for trade

[AKFlyFisher]

I'm not sure I could disagree with you more strongly.

I think his plan was to get Linsley (I think a great move) and a mid tier interior offensive lineman in FA, retain Davis, retain Henry (at the right price), wait on FA bargains that help during days 5 through the start of the season that will help the roster (not impact players but solid contributors or depth, guys like what Vigil or to an extent Joseph were last year), and get that offensive tackle in the draft.

That seems like a reasonable plan and he's executed it fairly well so far.

I'm an Angels fan and every year they strike early in FA and sign a big name and then at the end of the offseason the Rays waited to sign a mid level pitcher who didn't get a deal to a small contract and he plays 90% as well as the guy the Angels signed and the guy the Angels signed gets hurt half way through the season and they can't afford the back up depth. TT has filled the biggest needs with good players and is just waiting out the market to get the deals. I'm not worried.

I guess if Telesco's plan was to be stuck with MW at $15.6 million (yes, I know he could sign an extension later, however leverage has been lost at this point), to make Linsley the highest paid center in the league, and to go into the draft with numerous holes, it has been going according to plan. Which reaches the acme of my concerns: if fans are hoping the draft becomes truly the forum for this team to develop and take the next step, Telesco's draft history has provided no assurances he is capable of finding that kind of talent. Telesco has not shown he can create a system where old expensive vets can be replaced by draft picks and through player development. The number of holes on this roster should now be alarming, mostly because it means they will be filled by Telesco draft picks -- picks that have been awful.

Furthermore, Telesco has now created a situation where he will be drafting more for need than BPA; never a winning quality. I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but I would love nothing more than to eat crow because he selects a tackle at 13. But I just see no way he does that with significant needs at linebacker (they need more speed), CB, safety, RB, and WR/TE.

Staley and his staff will need to be true wunderkinds for this to work out and maybe they will be.

Lastly, this tells me this will be a two year process. Maybe I was naive to think they could "right the ship" in one off-season.

[Formula 21]

Is Curtis Samuel $10 mill better than Austin Ekelar? I think not.