2021 Official Chargers Season Discusssion

[Boltjolt]

you bring up a good point about size
I remember that OLine of King Dunlap, Franklin, Fluker, forget the Center but maybe Barksdale - all 320+ - and it was terrible - they couldn't move

As long as they have good feet. But Gabe had a awful 3 cone of 8.25.

Orlando Brown Jr had a 5.85 40 which is very slow and a 7.87 3 cone, etter than Gabes but they are a different offense.
They run the ball a lot and Lamar takes off often after dropping back when his OTs kick out a DE and he runs thru that edge.

Herbert won't be doing that much..

[Fleet]

No, I don't - how do you do it. My usual process is to go into the tweet - drop down field (three dots) - and "embed tweet" - I copy the code and this is the result:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Charge rs</a> make Trai Turner cut official. Also announce they have cut LB Malik Jefferson.</p>&mdash; Daniel Popper (@danielrpopper) <a href="https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status/1370464573409566721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Do you know how to do it? On another forum, my process works fine

Twitter changed something a while back. Used to be able to just post the tweet and it would automatically format on this forum. On Proboards...which is likely the forum you are referring too...you just. paste the tweet location and it pops up. Its awesome. I love that feature. This is a Vbulletin forum so things are a little different. It sucks in the way we have to do some basic things.

You have to copy the tweet address in the tab i highlighted. Then post it with our tweet feature.

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[like54ninjas]

Report: Chargers tender Tyree St. Louis

Posted by Charean Williams on March 12, 2021, 6:43 PM EST

Chargers release Malik Jefferson

Posted by Myles Simmons on March 12, 2021, 3:16 PM EST

[cmplxgal]

This is my best assessment of the players currently under contract with the Chargers. It is consistent with Spotrac's list:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange...ers/contracts/

The Chargers appear to have 45 players under contract currently and 28 players who have become free agents, excluding released players. Spotrac lists 50 players under contract because it includes some players who become free agents at the end of the league year on March 17.


UFA = unrestricted free agent (4+ accrued seasons)

RFA = restricted free agent (3 accrued seasons; players must be tendered by March 17 for teams to retain rights)

ERFA = exclusive rights free agent (less than three accrued seasons; must be tendered by March 17?)

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-fr...u-need-to-know


This list includes 10 players signed to reserve/future contracts on Jan. 5: RB Darius Bradwell, G Nate Gilliam, G Ryan Hunter, WR John Hurst, WR Jason Moore, NT Breiden Fehoko, DT TJ Smith, CB Donte Vaughn, CB John Brannon, P Lachlan Edwards

Note that some of the position assignments between ILB and OLB are uncertain to me as the team moves from a 4-3 base defense to a 3-4 base.



Offense (22):


Quarterbacks (2): Justin Herbert, Easton Stick

Free agents: Tyrod Taylor (UFA)



Running backs (4): Austin Ekeler, Justin Jackson, Joshua Kelley, Darius Bradwell

Free agents: Kalen Ballage (RFA)

Cut during season: Troymaine Pope



Fullbacks (1): Gabe Nabers



Offensive line (6): RT Bryan Bulaga, C Scott Quessenberry, T Storm Norton, T Trey Pipkins, G Nate Gilliam, G Ryan Hunter

Free agents: C/G Dan Feeney (UFA), G/T Forrest Lamp (UFA), T Sam Tevi (UFA), G Ryan Groy (UFA), C/G Cole Toner (RFA), T Tyree St. Louis (ERFA--tendered)

Retired: C Mike Pouncey

Released: RG Trai Turner



Wide receivers (8): Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jalen Guyton, Joe Reed, K.J. Hill, Tyron Johnson, John Hurst, Jason Moore



Tight ends (1): Donald Parham

Free agents: Hunter Henry (UFA), Virgil Green (UFA), Stephen Anderson (RFA), Matt Sokol (ERFA)




Defense (20):


Defensive line (6): Linval Joseph, Jerry Tillery, Justin Jones, Cortez Broughton, Breiden Fehoko, T.J. Smith

Free agents: Damion Square (UFA)



Edge/outside LB (3): Joey Bosa, Uchenna Nwosu, Jessie Lemonier

Free agents: Melvin Ingram (UFA), Isaac Rochell (RFA), Joe Gaziano (ERFA)



Inside LB (4): Kenneth Murray, Drue Tranquill, Kyzir White, Emeke Egbule

Free agents: Denzel Perryman (UFA), Nick Vigil (UFA), B.J. Bello (RFA), Cole Christiansen (ERFA)

Released: Malik Jefferson



Cornerbacks (4): Casey Hayward, Chris Harris, John Brannon, Donte Vaughn

Free agents: Michael Davis (UFA), Brandon Facyson (RFA), Tevaughn Campbell (ERFA)



Safeties (3): Derwin James, Nasir Adderley, Alohi Gilman

Free agents: Rayshawn Jenkins (UFA), Jahleel Addae (UFA), Jaylen Watkins (UFA)





Specialists (3):

Kicker: Tristan Vizcaino

Free agents: Michael Badgley (RFA)


Punter: Lachlan Edwards

Free agents: Ty Long (ERFA)


Long Snapper: Cole Mazza

[Xenos]

Hope this means a team friendly extension that helps our cap this year. Just spitballing right now:

[CivilBolt]

Hope this means a team friendly extension that helps our cap this year. Just spitballing right now:

That would be nice :beer:

[wu-dai clan]

Hope this means a team friendly extension that helps our cap this year. Just spitballing right now:

Exactly. I believe LAC made a tough business decision re HH vs MW a while ago. MW has been shouting out to Keenan lately too.

[Lone Bolt]

If it actually was MW vs HH, I am disappointed...because MW shouldn't get the nod just cuz TT blew a #7 pick on him...and good combo TE's like Henry are far more rare than impact WR's these days...just look at this years draft...and don't even bring up the aging downgrades that are hitting the market this year...

I would rather think that it wasn't choosing between the two, but rather the Bolts having the rights to keep Williams, and Henry just insisting on exercising his right at having a look around....but we will see.

[Bolt4Knob]

If it actually was MW vs HH, I am disappointed...because MW shouldn't get the nod just cuz TT blew a #7 pick on him...and good combo TE's like Henry are far more rare than impact WR's these days...just look at this years draft...and don't even bring up the aging downgrades that are hitting the market this year...

I would rather think that it wasn't choosing between the two, but rather the Bolts having the rights to keep Williams, and Henry just insisting on exercising his right at having a look around....but we will see.

I think its the latter as well. Because I have seen numbers floated for HH as 50/4 or thereabouts. When I tweeted with Jason from OTC and asked a deal for Mike Williams I suggested 4/46 and he said "in the ballpark, maybe a little low." So basically, the same numbers. For the same numbers, I am picking Hunter Henry

I am on record as saying I am only keeping Mike Williams if they extend him - just do not see the value at 15.7. And who knows, maybe both are back. I don't begrudge HH wanting to test the market. Who knows, maybe the Jags throw out 64/5 or something and he moves on. I would wish him well.

But with respect to the post by MW81 - if that does mean a long term deal - good for both parties.

[gzubeck]

I think its the latter as well. Because I have seen numbers floated for HH as 50/4 or thereabouts. When I tweeted with Jason from OTC and asked a deal for Mike Williams I suggested 4/46 and he said "in the ballpark, maybe a little low." So basically, the same numbers. For the same numbers, I am picking Hunter Henry

I am on record as saying I am only keeping Mike Williams if they extend him - just do not see the value at 15.7. And who knows, maybe both are back. I don't begrudge HH wanting to test the market. Who knows, maybe the Jags throw out 64/5 or something and he moves on. I would wish him well.

But with respect to the post by MW81 - if that does mean a long term deal - good for both parties.

It might be the Guaranteed money part of his contract that's the stumbling block. Hunter has been oft injured of late and I would not want to guarantee 3 years vs. say 2 years. So $25 mil vs. $38 mil in guarantees. If Hunter wants $15 mil per year I'll help him pack his bags....

opcorn:

[wu-dai clan]

If it actually was MW vs HH, I am disappointed...because MW shouldn't get the nod just cuz TT blew a #7 pick on him...and good combo TE's like Henry are far more rare than impact WR's these days...just look at this years draft...and don't even bring up the aging downgrades that are hitting the market this year...

I would rather think that it wasn't choosing between the two, but rather the Bolts having the rights to keep Williams, and Henry just insisting on exercising his right at having a look around....but we will see.

Apples to oranges says Popper.
Different contract circumstances.
Different traits as receivers.
More contract flexibility with MW.
With our interest in Todd Gurley and Zach Ertz, it sure looks like we want to score more.

[Bolt4Knob]

It might be the Guaranteed money part of his contract that's the stumbling block. Hunter has been oft injured of late and I would not want to guarantee 3 years vs. say 2 years. So $25 mil vs. $38 mil in guarantees. If Hunter wants $15 mil per year I'll help him pack his bags....

opcorn:

Thats another good point too. The guarantees in the future would go up if he plays a certain number of games - meaning for Henry. As if he plays, the production will be there

And yes, if he gets closer to Kelce or Kittle money - wish him well but I don't think the Chargers should go that high. Happy that some of these questions will be answered next week