2021 Official Chargers Season Discusssion

[like54ninjas]

100% agreed.

Specifically OT, imo, is the hardest position to develop after qb because they are soooo behind in college and the pro position is evolving into one of the most difficult (after cb). Having to match the speed and power of these beasts on the DL, wave after wave.
a realistic first round OT is still developing. You can start them, but you have to be patient and you have to get comfortable “over drafting” them, regardless of what scheme you run.

I concur.

[wu-dai clan]

Like Fluker ?

[Boltjolt]

Definitely. I would think by now even TT understands he needs a different approach and/or a different pair of eyes to collaborate with.
no way of knowing but I’d be shocked if he isn’t doing something different

something related. Maybe it’s just me, being a fan, and following the team (too) closely, but it feels like the word is out leaguewide that UFAs can play Telesco for a fool, sign for fatcat money and ride pine until they’re cut.

FA busts happen everywhere, but I’m curious to see if we have a significantly higher rate

we need an alpha on the OL we can trust to be the leader and to call the bs out if/when it’s happening
Someone who is okay with confrontation, watchinf Feeney, Tevi, Lamp and Bulaga, they all seem casual and the avoiding personality type, we need a dog who can hold teammates accountable

just wondering who that can be

It's not higher than the Raiders for one lol. They just cut guys they signed two years ago in Tyrell, Trent Brown, Joyner, Incognito, and trying to trade Mariota. Had to get rid of Antonio Brown before he played a down.

I can't imagine we are higher than the ordinary.

[21&500]

Like Fluker ?

:smh:

[Lone Bolt]

Like Fluker ?

:lol:Woody in the trees...sniping trenchers....:lol:


Meet us in the field with v3...

Or did I miss that one...?

[Bolt4Knob]

Definitely. I would think by now even TT understands he needs a different approach and/or a different pair of eyes to collaborate with.
no way of knowing but I’d be shocked if he isn’t doing something different

something related. Maybe it’s just me, being a fan, and following the team (too) closely, but it feels like the word is out leaguewide that UFAs can play Telesco for a fool, sign for fatcat money and ride pine until they’re cut.

FA busts happen everywhere, but I’m curious to see if we have a significantly higher rate

we need an alpha on the OL we can trust to be the leader and to call the bs out if/when it’s happening
Someone who is okay with confrontation, watchinf Feeney, Tevi, Lamp and Bulaga, they all seem casual and the avoiding personality type, we need a dog who can hold teammates accountable

just wondering who that can be

First off - my hope is that Staley (and this coaching staff) is better at player evaluation than the combos of Telesco/McCoy/JohnBoy and Telesco/Lynn/JohnBoy. Not only evaluation but understanding the TYPE of player they want. Meaning not just signing a guy to sign a guy but signing the RIGHT guy

Second - Telesco's best free agent was Casey Hayward; Woodhead was also solid. HIs biggest busts were Orlando Franklin (when the Cardinals got Iupati who was a darn good player for them) and Derek Cox.

So with that - there is going to be one helluva market for Linsley and Thuney. So do your damn job as a coaching staff and personnel team and see if there are players that might not be as known but will be upgrades over the previous OLines. Granted, if they sign Linsley, will be happy - but if its Austin Ritter or Karras - that works for me. OG should be pretty damn easy - there is more supply than demand. And if need be, sign two OGs in free agency - though OC is a priority - just get better

Lastly - for Edge - again, the supply is out there, I am liking Okwara or Roy-Robertson Harris as targets for Edge. I know the higher profile names like Floyd or Yannick or Lawson but again, Telesco does better if he goes more second tier.

[Boltjolt]

First off - my hope is that Staley (and this coaching staff) is better at player evaluation than the combos of Telesco/McCoy/JohnBoy and Telesco/Lynn/JohnBoy. Not only evaluation but understanding the TYPE of player they want. Meaning not just signing a guy to sign a guy but signing the RIGHT guy

Second - Telesco's best free agent was Casey Hayward; Woodhead was also solid. HIs biggest busts were Orlando Franklin (when the Cardinals got Iupati who was a darn good player for them) and Derek Cox.

So with that - there is going to be one helluva market for Linsley and Thuney. So do your damn job as a coaching staff and personnel team and see if there are players that might not be as known but will be upgrades over the previous OLines. Granted, if they sign Linsley, will be happy - but if its Austin Ritter or Karras - that works for me. OG should be pretty damn easy - there is more supply than demand. And if need be, sign two OGs in free agency - though OC is a priority - just get better

Lastly - for Edge - again, the supply is out there, I am liking Okwara or Roy-Robertson Harris as targets for Edge. I know the higher profile names like Floyd or Yannick or Lawson but again, Telesco does better if he goes more second tier.

Roy-Robinson Harris is a backup type, why spent any sort of money on him? I wouldnt call him even a second teir. That one baffles me actually. He isnt an Edge rusher at 298 lbs...not the type of Edge we need anyways.

[Bolt4Knob]

Roy-Robinson Harris is a backup type, why spent any sort of money on him? I wouldnt call him even a second teir. That one baffles me actually. He isnt an Edge rusher at 298 lbs...not the type of Edge we need anyways.

thanks for that - who the hell was I thinking of ! dangit - I know one dude was Onkwara from the Lions

(let me get back to you on that one! - maybe its the guy from seattle - Mayowa - lighter in the 260 range)

[Bolt Dude]

Thought this was interesting...

NFL insider John Clayton thinks that Matt Feiler is the #2 FA guard on the market (behind Thuney I’d assume). Says his value is somewhere around 7M/year.

Compared to what Trai Turner gave us last year, that would be an upgrade and a bargain.

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/03/clayton-sees-matt-feiler-as-2nd-best-guard-in-fa-could-make-7m-apy/

[MagicMamba88]

[Formula 21]

As much as we’d hate it, the Bolts need to resign Tevi. FAs just cost too much.

[Bolt4Knob]

Thought this was interesting...

NFL insider John Clayton thinks that Matt Feiler is the #2 FA guard on the market (behind Thuney I’d assume). Says his value is somewhere around 7M/year.

Compared to what Trai Turner gave us last year, that would be an upgrade and a bargain.

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/03/cl...d-make-7m-apy/

Feiler - after Linsley is pretty high on my board too. He can play RT as well, Sarratt also would have good intelligence. I would take Feiler and either Warford or Ritter right now and call it good for the IOL. If his value though is truly around 7m -- these IOL/OGs are not going to get anything - except maybe Thuney and Linsley. Zeitler, Easton, Martin, Ritter, Blythe - its going to be a tough market.