Originally posted by Topcat
View Post
Orlando Brown Requests Trade
Collapse
X
-
Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
"Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh
-
👍 1
- Top
- Bottom
-
-
Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
Sort of like JJ watt, Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, etc. etc. etc. are malcontents. I'm sorry, we need to explore every possibility to win the superbowl. It could be that a player does have a legitimate gripe with their current team due to usage and pay level.
Thats Watson, not Watt.
Stafford didnt either. They mutually agreed to part ways. I see no problem with that.
-
👍 2
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
Sort of like JJ watt, Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, etc. etc. etc. are malcontents. I'm sorry, we need to explore every possibility to win the superbowl. It could be that a player does have a legitimate gripe with their current team due to usage and pay level.
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
Sort of like JJ watt, Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, etc. etc. etc. are malcontents. I'm sorry, we need to explore every possibility to win the superbowl. It could be that a player does have a legitimate gripe with their current team due to usage and pay level.
...now, if a player is a FA, I still think he's better off to negotiate privately and not go public...if they work out a deal, fine, announce it AFTER the fact...if not, announce his new deal with another team, also AFTER the fact...NO GM likes to be bad-mouthed during any kind of negotiations...it has a chilling effect and usually ends up hurting the player more than helping...
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
Orlando Brown is just stating he wants to get paid premium dollars and if the Ravens are not going to pay it.. not sure it makes him a malcontent. He is just letting his feelings be known. Granted, if you can get an equal player at 13 and save about $60m in the process over 5 years ... that might not be the worst way to go.
Fluker is a FA and Ben Powers is the other RG who has only started 7 games.
Not offering MW.
Id probably just draft our LT @13 or trade down and draft Little, depending on the board.
-
👍 2
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Thats my guess why he says he is a LT. They get paid more but RTs arent making chicken feed either. I dont know, he isnt elite so im not giving up a top pick for him. Third rounder and Hayward/Turner who ALSO are in the last year of their deals like Brown.
Fluker is a FA and Ben Powers is the other RG who has only started 7 games.
Not offering MW.
Id probably just draft our LT @13 or trade down and draft Little, depending on the board.
The Ravens wouldn't take Turner or Hayward - not much value for each player. The reason MW is mentioned is he has possible value plus you can use his cap space for Brown. But if you keep MW AND pick OT at 13 -you are probably ahead of the game over just having Brown
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Brown worries me considering how he showed up at the combine and now demanding to play LT for the payday. Could be another Turner, I will pass on him especially considering AVT and Little or another good prospect will be there with the top two picks.
All the FA centers seem more trust worthy to me.
-
👍 3
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
The more I think about the cost of Brown , is he truly an elite LT? and the cost to not only in trade value but having to pay him - I think taking OT at 13 makes the most sense too.
The Ravens wouldn't take Turner or Hayward - not much value for each player. The reason MW is mentioned is he has possible value plus you can use his cap space for Brown. But if you keep MW AND pick OT at 13 -you are probably ahead of the game over just having Brown
When he addressed the media i sensed a bit of nervousness when he was saying the OL needs addressing and he has to be better. I would NOT have taken the chance on Bulaga who had a history of being hurt. He just happened to come off one of his rare 16 game seasons.
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Topcat View Post
As soon as you go public, whether on Twitter, through your agent, etc., you open a Pandora's box...it's a double-edged sword, because now you get sports reporters, forum posters, fans, etc. loudly voicing their opinions...if a player is under contract, they should QUIETLY, and PRIVATELY list their concerns...if the team decides not to re-negotiate, too bad--the player knew what he was doing when signing and he should fulfill his end of it...
...now, if a player is a FA, I still think he's better off to negotiate privately and not go public...if they work out a deal, fine, announce it AFTER the fact...if not, announce his new deal with another team, also AFTER the fact...NO GM likes to be bad-mouthed during any kind of negotiations...it has a chilling effect and usually ends up hurting the player more than helping...
:coffee:Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
"Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
And thats fine. Im just putting my foot in the mix. If not interested im moving on. Ive no interest in trading a first rounder nor trading MW for him when im in a good spot to get a LT. Hec even trading down to 20-25, id probably still get Cosmi so im not worried about it if LT is the main target for them. Id hate to pass on other good players but TT i think has his job in a bit of jeapardy and knows he has to make the OL better.
When he addressed the media i sensed a bit of nervousness when he was saying the OL needs addressing and he has to be better. I would NOT have taken the chance on Bulaga who had a history of being hurt. He just happened to come off one of his rare 16 game seasons.
I like the idea of Cosmi , Darrisaw, Eichenberg - if Telesco is worried about value not at 13 - maybe he can do something for the first time, trade back!
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Watt didnt complain. He waited til the offseason and just asked for his release. He didnt demand to be a part of HC and GM hires and then bitch because his guy Bieniemy didnt get a interview and then ask to be traded.
Thats Watson, not Watt.
Stafford didnt either. They mutually agreed to part ways. I see no problem with that.
For example, Watson never demanded to have a say. McNair actually went out of his way to tell Watson that he would have the say, and that Easterby would not be involved in the new GM and HC search. And then McNair obviously backslide badly. It was simply the straw that broke the camel’s back. And is also the reason that Watt is leaving.
-
👍 1
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Xenos View Post
I don’t think you understand the Watson situation. I followed it closely as well as talked to some knowledgeable Texan fans. It’s completely the FO fault especially Cal McNair and Jack Easterby.
For example, Watson never demanded to have a say. McNair actually went out of his way to tell Watson that he would have the say, and that Easterby would not be involved in the new GM and HC search. And then McNair obviously backslide badly. It was simply the straw that broke the camel’s back. And is also the reason that Watt is leaving.
- Top
- Bottom
Comment
-
Comment