Get Mike Williams Signed To a New Contract Now

[BlazingBolt]

I traded for him in my Dynasty fantasy league in the offseason. Feeling really good about the returns im getting.

[cmplxgal]

The decision to waive Tyron Johnson...he also could be that third weapon.

I agree. The Chargers surprisingly don't have a dependable third WR right now. Guyton has been a disappointment, Palmer looked great in the preseason but hasn't had many opportunities in the real season, and they let go of Tyron. I think Popper was wrong in saying that Guyton is a better player than Tyron.

[Velo]

That's always going to be an issue. No way around that.

It is less likely when you pay your own players, as opposed to brining in players from the outside and giving them big money. Paying your own players is significantly less risky then signing free agents, but both can and do backfire.

The theory is that if you have your own players, and keep them in the same environment and habits in which they develop in, they will keep doing what they did before. New FA from other teams have to re-establish themselves with a new franchise, develop new habits and it rarely works out.

But much of that is because once you give a player a bunch of money, they get the mental message that they have "arrived" and suddenly they lose the motivation that got them there. And that is a problem no matter who/where they get their money. Once they get paid, you get a different player. Sometimes for the better, but mostly not.

The point is, one way or another, even if Palmer and/or Guyton develop, we need 3 offensive weapons for Herbert. So, it is not a matter of just replacing Williams. The offense is not where we need it to be. It's not awful, but it is not in KC class either. On top of that, we are still building the OL, so we have other holes to continue filling, not to mention D and ST.

Re the final graph, two things come to mind:

1. Jared Cook is not playing to the level I expected from him, which may or many not help explain why the offense is not there yet. He *should* be that third weapons you speak of. But it is early and I still expect him to become a factor in the offense.

2. The decision to waive Tyron Johnson...he also could be that third weapon. I like Guyton, but he is not the player Johnson was paired with Herbert. Johnson had better hands, for one. I just think he was the gritter of the two players. Josh Palmer is going to take some time develop. In TJ, we had a WR who was ready to compete in the NFL and had shown he was able to.

[Steve]

I was in the dump MW boat, myself. A little premature, in retrospect. My biggest concern is he suddenly underperforms after getting a new, long-term, juicy contract. Have too many bad memories regarding players doing this. I'm hoping he gets a long-term deal and rewards us for years to come. He is looking like the beast TT was hoping for when they drafted him.

That's always going to be an issue. No way around that.

It is less likely when you pay your own players, as opposed to brining in players from the outside and giving them big money. Paying your own players is significantly less risky then signing free agents, but both can and do backfire.

The theory is that if you have your own players, and keep them in the same environment and habits in which they develop in, they will keep doing what they did before. New FA from other teams have to re-establish themselves with a new franchise, develop new habits and it rarely works out.

But much of that is because once you give a player a bunch of money, they get the mental message that they have "arrived" and suddenly they lose the motivation that got them there. And that is a problem no matter who/where they get their money. Once they get paid, you get a different player. Sometimes for the better, but mostly not.

The point is, one way or another, even if Palmer and/or Guyton develop, we need 3 offensive weapons for Herbert. So, it is not a matter of just replacing Williams. The offense is not where we need it to be. It's not awful, but it is not in KC class either. On top of that, we are still building the OL, so we have other holes to continue filling, not to mention D and ST.

[Velo]

I was in the dump MW boat, myself. A little premature, in retrospect. My biggest concern is he suddenly underperforms after getting a new, long-term, juicy contract. Have too many bad memories regarding players doing this. I'm hoping he gets a long-term deal and rewards us for years to come. He is looking like the beast TT was hoping for when they drafted him.

I really don't see that from Mike Will, I think he really enjoys the game. I think he's got a great attitude (you always see him smiling) and even though he has underperformed for whatever reason, I think the effort has always been there. I don't think a new contract will change that. I think the Chargers are a winning football team now, and he is a big reason why, and he is going to want to be a part of that.

[richpjr]

Yep...it's like Lynn and Stitch looked at Mike Will's height and kept sending him into routes that would be heavily covered and MW was FORCED to go up the ladder for all those jump balls...unfortunately, he'd also come crashing down or get speared by a safety, hence his many injury woes...in contrast, Staley and Lombo seem to be sending Mike will into routes where he actually gets separation...(and less contact/injuries)--wow, what a novel concept...

I absolutely agree that his style in previous years led to lots of those nagging injuries. The coaching staff is using him differently. Some is on MW as he is a much better route runner than before. I'm just enjoying watching him blossom with this coaching staff.

[Bolt-O]

MikeWill is a very late bloomer, and was drafted ahead of McCaffrey and Mahomes, who have been better players but may not have been on the need list. His first year was definitely like a red shirt year, and he has underplayed his potential until this season. I still want to see him last for most of the season because if he's on the field he's shown he can be a #1 WR. They don't need to re-sign him right away.

[Topcat]

I was in the dump MW boat, myself. A little premature, in retrospect. My biggest concern is he suddenly underperforms after getting a new, long-term, juicy contract. Have too many bad memories regarding players doing this. I'm hoping he gets a long-term deal and rewards us for years to come. He is looking like the beast TT was hoping for when they drafted him.

Before throwing bank bucks at Mike Will, I'd kind of like to franchise him after this season, and see if he stays mostly healthy this year and next...

[Topcat]

MW is going to be a top 3 WR in the league this year if he maintains his current pace. Staley called him the best player on the field today. Lynn wasted him. Now we see who he is. I’d extend him right now

Yep...it's like Lynn and Stitch looked at Mike Will's height and kept sending him into routes that would be heavily covered and MW was FORCED to go up the ladder for all those jump balls...unfortunately, he'd also come crashing down or get speared by a safety, hence his many injury woes...in contrast, Staley and Lombo seem to be sending Mike will into routes where he actually gets separation...(and less contact/injuries)--wow, what a novel concept...

[Berserker76]

This thread cracks me up.
The vast majority of this board was calling for MikeDub to be traded prior to the draft.
Posters badmouthing MW for the past 4 years for every reason they could think of valid or not.
Now the board is on the Dub bandwagon. Funny what 3 weeks/games can do.

I was in the dump MW boat, myself. A little premature, in retrospect. My biggest concern is he suddenly underperforms after getting a new, long-term, juicy contract. Have too many bad memories regarding players doing this. I'm hoping he gets a long-term deal and rewards us for years to come. He is looking like the beast TT was hoping for when they drafted him.

[like54ninjas]

I don't know why that is funny. MW has underperformed, relative to his draft position, for most of his career. I don't think it's being on the bandwagon to be excited to watch MW perform to the abilities he was supposed to bring when he was drafted No. 7 overall. It's more like "OK, finally!"

The emotional peaks and valleys of posters is very funny to me.
To go from questioning his talent level to now immediately sign him to a long term deal.
The ability to turn one’s opinion on a dime is comical here.
It would worry me in many other aspects of life/reality but here just funny.

[Velo]

This thread cracks me up.
The vast majority of this board was calling for MikeDub to be traded prior to the draft.
Posters badmouthing MW for the past 4 years for every reason they could think of valid or not.
Now the board is on the Dub bandwagon. Funny what 3 weeks/games can do.

I don't know why that is funny. MW has underperformed, relative to his draft position, for most of his career. I don't think it's being on the bandwagon to be excited to watch MW perform to the abilities he was supposed to bring when he was drafted No. 7 overall. It's more like "OK, finally!"