2022 Official Chargers Season Discussion

[Fouts2herbert]

I think so too but I guess my point is that no one is proven in the NFL so in the small chance that Kelley and/or Roundtree genuinely beat Spiller out in camp, I wouldn't care if Spiller didn't make the roster.
wts, I don't see a chance of that happening.

I don’t think we draft spiller in the first place if those guys had ‘proven’ that they could play, the only thing they have proven so far is that they aren’t NFL caliber players…

[blueman]

I don’t think we draft spiller in the first place if those guys had ‘proven’ that they could play, the only thing they have proven so far is that they aren’t NFL caliber players…

Well this.

[Tol]

Any mock roster hypothesizing that Reed might make the roster as a RB is automatically filed in the circular archive repository. I think they must add another Edge rusher. Horvath over Rountree. (Jackson also would be over Rountree). Nabors retaining a spot hinges on if Horvath can lead block as a FB or not.

Yo, to be fair, he had 1 target, 0 receptions. But on 5 rushing attempts he gained 29 yards (5.8 avg) and a TD. Out of Ekeler, Kelley, and Rountree, 5.8 is the highest average, granted it's a small sample size. But he also averaged 5 yards per carry in college. I'm just saying, if he's going to continue to average 5+ yards per carry.... I think you can work with that.

Who is Brown? And isn't Egbule a FA? I don't recall them retaining him but not sure.

I'm just going off of the Ourlads depth chart. It shows he's been on and off our practice squad last season.

Eh,. Brown was ok. He is about on Roundtree's level.

Kelley, Rountree, Brown, and Marks Jr. could all very well end up being very close to each other in competition. We've seen Kelley for 2 years... 3.2 avg, 2 TD, and 3 fumbles all lost. Rountree's 1st season showed a 2.4 YPC avg on 36 attempts. No TD's, but no fumbles. Just for reference here's a comparison of their college stats:

Name	School	Conference	Years	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	AVG	TD	40 Time
Joshua Kelley	UCLA	PAC 12	2018-2019	454	2303	5.1	24	38	264	6.9	1	4.50
Larry Rountree III	Mizzou	SEC	2017-2020	746	3720	4.9	40	47	289	6.1	0	4.62
Leddie Brown	West Virginia	BIG 12	2018-2021	620	2888	4.6	27	86	604	7.0	5	4.64
Kevin Marks Jr.	Buffalo	MAC	2018-2021	627	3055	4.8	33	37	129	3.4	0	4.51
Zander Horvath	Purdue	BIG TEN	2018-2021	200	950	4.7	6	55	495	9.0	1	4.57

Leddie Brown might be the best pass catcher on paper out of the group. But there's really not a whole lot that separates them. So who knows.

And on 2nd look, I probably would swap Horvath and Nabers on my prediction. At Fullback only though. Not as a TE and not as a backup workhorse RB.

[cmplxgal]

Here is the Chargers' current roster (including draft picks, although they haven't signed contracts yet):



Active Roster (84)


Offense (41):

Quarterback (4): Justin Herbert, Chase Daniel, Easton Stick, Brandon Peters

Running back (6): Austin Ekeler, Isaiah Spiller [D-4], Joshua Kelley, Larry Rountree, Leddie Brown, Kevin Marks, Jr.

Fullback (2): Gabe Nabers, Zander Horvath [D-7B]

Offensive line (13): T Rashawn Slater, G Matt Feiler, C Corey Linsley, G Zion Johnson [D-1], T Storm Norton, G Brenden Jaimes, T Trey Pipkins, G/T Jamaree Salyer [D-6A], C/G Will Clapp, G Ryan Hunter, T Foster Sarell, T Andrew Trainer, C Isaac Weaver

Wide receiver (10): Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Joshua Palmer, Jalen Guyton, DeAndre Carter, Michael Bandy, Joe Reed, Jason Moore, Maurice Ffrench, Trevor Bradford

Tight end (6): Gerald Everett, Donald Parham, Tre' McKitty, Hunter Kampmoyer, Erik Krommenhoek, Stone Smartt



Defense (39):

Defensive line (9): Austin Johnson, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Jerry Tillery, Otito Ogbonnia [D-5], Christian Covington, Breiden Fehoko, Joe Gaziano, Forrest Merrill, Andrew Brown

Edge rusher (6): Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, Chris Rumph II, Emeke Egbule, Jamal Davis, Ty Shelby

Linebacker (8): Drue Tranquill, Kenneth Murray, Troy Reeder, Amen Ogbongbemiga, Nick Niemann, Cole Christiansen, Damon Lloyd, Tyreek Maddox-Williams

Cornerback (8): J.C. Jackson, Asante Samuel Jr., Michael Davis, Tevaughn Campbell, Kemon Hall, Ja'Sir Taylor [D-6B], Deane Leonard [D-7A], Brandon Sebastian

Safety (8): Derwin James, Nasir Adderley, Alohi Gilman, JT Woods [D-3], Mark Webb, Ben DeLuca, Raheem Layne, Skyler Thomas




Specialists (4):

K Dustin Hopkins, James McCourt

LS Josh Harris

P JK Scott

[Boltjolt]

Running back (6): Austin Ekeler, Isaiah Spiller [D-4], Joshua Kelley, Larry Rountree, Leddie Brown, Kevin Marks, Jr.

RB -3 looks like a possible shit show. Nothing to get excited about.

Compare ours to the Browns of Chubb, Hunt , D. Johnson and they drafted Ford.

Maybe one of those guys steps up but don't look like a very good group.
Man really wish JJ wasn't such a China doll but he is and doubt he comes back.

Let's give Joe Reed a look at RB.

[Chargerfreak]

Yo, to be fair, he had 1 target, 0 receptions. But on 5 rushing attempts he gained 29 yards (5.8 avg) and a TD. Out of Ekeler, Kelley, and Rountree, 5.8 is the highest average, granted it's a small sample size. But he also averaged 5 yards per carry in college. I'm just saying, if he's going to continue to average 5+ yards per carry.... I think you can work with that.




I'm just going off of the Ourlads depth chart. It shows he's been on and off our practice squad last season.




Kelley, Rountree, Brown, and Marks Jr. could all very well end up being very close to each other in competition. We've seen Kelley for 2 years... 3.2 avg, 2 TD, and 3 fumbles all lost. Rountree's 1st season showed a 2.4 YPC avg on 36 attempts. No TD's, but no fumbles. Just for reference here's a comparison of their college stats:

Name	School	Conference	Years	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	AVG	TD	40 Time
Joshua Kelley	UCLA	PAC 12	2018-2019	454	2303	5.1	24	38	264	6.9	1	4.50
Larry Rountree III	Mizzou	SEC	2017-2020	746	3720	4.9	40	47	289	6.1	0	4.62
Leddie Brown	West Virginia	BIG 12	2018-2021	620	2888	4.6	27	86	604	7.0	5	4.64
Kevin Marks Jr.	Buffalo	MAC	2018-2021	627	3055	4.8	33	37	129	3.4	0	4.51
Zander Horvath	Purdue	BIG TEN	2018-2021	200	950	4.7	6	55	495	9.0	1	4.57

Leddie Brown might be the best pass catcher on paper out of the group. But there's really not a whole lot that separates them. So who knows.

And on 2nd look, I probably would swap Horvath and Nabers on my prediction. At Fullback only though. Not as a TE and not as a backup workhorse RB.

It's about how they transition to the ............86 catches for Brown !!?!?!?!?!?! Holy Hell is it Antonio Brown ???

[wu-dai clan]

Why does TT have a shiteatin' grin on his face about EDGE ?

[TexanBeerlover]

Why does TT have a shiteatin' grin on his face about EDGE ?

Khalil Mack

[Xenos]

https://theathletic.com/3287752/2022/05/02/chargers-nfl-draft-depth-chart/

Chargers post-draft depth chart: Defensive renovation is just about complete



By Daniel Popper
May 2, 2022

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The draft is over. The Chargers have completed a majority of their roster turnover for the 2022 offseason. They look dramatically different, particularly on defense.

Let’s reset the depth chart.


Quarterback

Starter: Justin Herbert

Depth: Chase Daniel, Easton Stick, Brandon Peters (R)

The Chargers re-signed Daniel in March to be Herbert’s backup for a second season. Stick is on the final year of his rookie deal, and we will see if the Chargers decide to keep three quarterbacks on the 53-man roster again. Peters was one of 14 undrafted free agents the Chargers agreed to terms with Saturday night. He has some size and athleticism and threw for 4,136 yards, 32 touchdowns and 15 interceptions over five college seasons — the first two at Michigan and the last three at Illinois.


Running back

Starter: Austin Ekeler

Depth: Isaiah Spiller (R), Joshua Kelley, Larry Rountree III, Leddie Brown (R), Kevin Marks Jr. (R)

Finding a reliable backup behind Ekeler was a priority for general manager Tom Telesco and coach Brandon Staley this offseason, and they think they found that player in Spiller, who they drafted in the fourth round Saturday. Spiller is big, physical and elusive as a runner and also has solid hands, catching 74 passes over three seasons at Texas A&M. He will be the front-runner for the RB2 job heading into camp but will have to earn that role in a competition with Kelley and Rountree. Brown (West Virginia) and Marks (Buffalo) are undrafted free agents.


Receiver

Starters: Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Joshua Palmer

Depth: Jalen Guyton, DeAndre Carter, Jason Moore Jr., Maurice Ffrench, Michael Bandy, Joe Reed, Trevon Bradford (R)

The Chargers opted not to draft a speed receiver, and the lack of speed — outside of Guyton — is really my only knock on this group. They signed Carter as their return man, and he does bring some speed to the room if the Chargers want to incorporate him into the offense. He ran a 4.48 40 when he was going through the pre-draft process in 2015. The Chargers could look to sign a speed option in the post-draft wave of a free agency, though Staley seems pretty content with his group. “I think that we have one of the top receiving corps in the NFL,” Staley said Saturday. “Going into the draft, we stacked that position heavily. We definitely did all of the work on it, but we were definitely going to take the best player approach this draft and it just didn’t work out that way.” Bradford is an undrafted free agent out of Oregon State. He is under 5-foot-10 and ran a 4.52 40, so he probably projects best in the slot.

Keenan Allen is part of a receiving corps Brandon Staley considers among the best in the game. (Mitchell Leff / Getty Images)


Tight end

Starter: Gerald Everett

Depth: Donald Parham Jr., Tre’ McKitty, Hunter Kampmoyer, Eric Krommenhoek (R), Stone Smartt (R)

Everett replaces Jared Cook, and the Chargers like the upside of the former Ram and Seahawk. They think Everett can be a real factor as a yards-after-catch option, particularly when lining up in the slot. McKitty was mostly used as an in-line blocker last season, and that will be his primary role in the offense. But he flashed some hands and athleticism in the passing game late in the season, so I would expect him to be more involved in that part of the offense in 2022. Krommenhoek (USC) and Smartt (Old Dominion) are undrafted free agents.


Fullback

Starter: Gabe Nabers

Depth: Zander Horvath (R)

I have Nabers as the starter right now. But this will be a full-on position battle in camp. The Chargers want stout backfield blocking and core-four special teams flexibility from this position. Horvath was more of a rusher in college at Purdue. Telesco compared him to Mike Alstott, who also played at Purdue. Horvath is built like a linebacker, though, at over 6-foot-2, 228 pounds with elite athletic traits and measurables. He initially accepted a preferred walk-on spot at Indiana to play linebacker before switching his commitment to Purdue. Horvath projects as a quality special teams coverage player. They have been looking for a replacement for Derek Watt since he left in free agency in 2020, and that is the role Horvath will be trying to earn.


Left tackle

Starter: Rashawn Slater

Depth: Trey Pipkins III, Foster Sarell

Slater is already one of the best left tackles in football. Pipkins will have the opportunity to compete for the starting right tackle job in camp, but for now, he is the swing tackle on the roster. He has the most in-game left tackle experience of any Charger besides Slater. And he played well there when he had to fill in last season when Slater was out with COVID-19. Sarell signed a futures contract in January.


Left guard

Starter: Matt Feiler

Depth: Brenden Jaimes, Jamaree Salyer (R), Will Clapp, Ryan Hunter

Feiler has played right tackle before in his career, but the plan for now is to keep him at left guard, where he played at a high level last season. The Chargers want to keep the left-side trio of Slater, Feiler and center Corey Linsley intact. Salyer was primarily a tackle in college, but he played all five positions on the line, and the Chargers are projecting him as a guard. He will be competing with Jaimes for the swing guard spot.


Center

Starter: Corey Linsley

Depth: Clapp, Salyer, Hunter, Jaimes, Isaac Weaver (R)

Scott Quessenberry left in free agency, and the Chargers signed Clapp — who was a reserve in New Orleans for four seasons under new OL coach Brendan Nugent — as their new backup center. Salyer played some center in college, both in games and practices, and worked there at the Senior Bowl. Hunter and Jaimes also took practice snaps at center last season. Weaver is an undrafted free agent out of Old Dominion.


Right guard

Starter: Zion Johnson (R)

Depth: Jaimes, Salyer, Clapp, Hunter

Johnson, the Chargers’ first-round pick, is the immediate starter at right guard. Jaimes spent most of his time at right guard last season in training camp and practice. He will be trying to carve out a backup role in that competition with Salyer, whom the Chargers took in the sixth round.


Right tackle

Starter: Storm Norton

Depth: Pipkins, Sarell, Salyer, Jaimes, Andrew Trainer (R)

Norton was the starter at right tackle last season, and he will retain the job for the moment until the competition with Pipkins begins in earnest in training camp. Pipkins started one game at left tackle and one game at right tackle last season and performed really well in that limited playing time, both as a run blocker and pass protector. If he continues to develop, he could very well push Norton for that starting right tackle job. Salyer and Jaimes are guards with college tackle experience who would only play out there in an emergency. Trainer is a 6-foot-7, 320-pound undrafted free agent out of William & Mary.

Storm Norton will have to beat out Trey Pipkins to hold on to his starting right tackle job. (Eric Hartline / USA Today)Interior defensive line


Starters: Sebastian Joseph-Day, Austin Johnson, Jerry Tillery

Depth: Christian Covington, Otito Ogbonnia(R), Breiden Fehoko, Joe Gaziano, Andrew Brown, Forrest Merrill

The Chargers have transformed the interior of their defensive line in one offseason. Heading into the draft, I still felt like they were one piece away from filling out their depth sufficiently. The Ogbonnia pick completed that in my mind. Tillery is the starter for now. But I think Ogbonnia — a run-stuffing specialist — will end up being the third defensive lineman in five-man fronts on early downs. The depth the Chargers have at this position now will allow Tillery to take on a pass-rushing role in known passing situations that is more geared toward his skill set and strengths.
Edge rusher


Starters: Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack

Depth: Chris Rumph II, Jamal Davis II, Emeke Egbule, Ty Shelby (R)

The Chargers did not take an edge rusher in the draft, and the depth is a pretty big concern. The top of the depth chart with Bosa and Mack is as good as any tandem in the league. But the Chargers do not have a viable contingency plan if Bosa or Mack misses time. I am expecting a Year 2 jump from Rumph. The Chargers signed Davis from the CFL. Egbule signed a futures contract in January, and Shelby is a UDFA out of Louisiana-Monroe. I think the Chargers will sign a veteran edge rusher at some point in the next month. One name to watch: Morgan Fox, who had six sacks playing for Staley with the Ramsin 2020.
Linebacker


Starters: Drue Tranquill, Kenneth Murray Jr.

Depth: Troy Reeder, Nick Niemann, Amen Ogbongbemiga, Damon Lloyd, Cole Christiansen, Tyreek Maddox-Williams (R)

The Reeder signing in mid-April solidified the Chargers’ linebacker depth to an extent. He is also an experienced special teams player and will be a factor in that phase. So not a huge surprise the Chargers did not take a linebacker in the draft, though they were considering it. Maddox-Williams is a UDFA out of Rutgers. Also, as I wrote last month in my mailbag, I think the Chargers will be playing more five-man fronts in nickel packages this season, meaning they will only need one linebacker on the field.

The Chargers might use only one linebacker often this season, with Drue Tranquill atop the depth chart. (Katie Stratman / USA Today)Safety


Starters: Derwin James Jr., Nasir Adderley

Depth: JT Woods (R), Mark Webb Jr., Alohi Gilman, Ben DeLuca, Raheem Layne (R), Skyler Thomas (R)

The Chargers are really deep at safety after drafting Woods, who gives them another rangy player to patrol the deep part of the field when James moves closer to the line of scrimmage in nickel and dime packages. James, Adderley, Woods and Webb all have the ability to defend the slot, as well, and that will impact how the Chargers end up using their corners. Layne (Indiana) and Thomas (Liberty) are undrafted free agents.
Cornerback


Starters: J.C. Jackson, Asante Samuel Jr.

Depth: Michael Davis, Tevaughn Campbell, Kemon Hall, Ja’Sir Taylor (R), Deane Leonard(R), Brandon Sebastian (R)

As I alluded to above, the Chargers have some options in how exactly they use their corners. Jackson, the Chargers’ marquee free-agent signing, will play on the outside, unless he is shadowing a No. 1 receiver who flexes in the slot. Samuel can play outside and inside. In certain nickel packages, it will be Jackson and Samuel on the outside with one of the safeties defending the slot. In others, it will be Davis and Jackson on the outside with Samuel in the slot. Taylor (sixth-round pick) and Leonard (seventh) will be competing with Campbell and Hall for the fourth corner spot. I think the Chargers are still lacking in depth at this position. They could sign a free agent like Kyle Fuller, who is familiar with the scheme after playing for Vic Fangio in Chicago and Denver.
Kicker


Starter: Dustin Hopkins

Depth: James McCourt (R)

Hopkins re-signed on a three-year deal this offseason and is the guy. He kicked well last season after joining the Chargers midseason, making 18 of 20 field goals and 30 of 32 extra points. McCourt is an undrafted free agent out of Illinois.
Punter


Starter: J.K. Scott

Depth: N/A

Scott is the only punter on the roster. Telesco said at his pre-draft news conference that the Chargers would likely bring in a second punter for training camp. They did not find that player in the undrafted free-agent market. So we will see if that comes to fruition.
Long snapper


Starter: Josh Harris

Depth: N/A

Harris was an under-the-radar free-agent signing. He replaces Matt Overton and gives the Chargers an upgrade in punt coverage. Harris was a Pro Bowler and second-team All-Pro last season after leading all long snappers in special teams tackles.
Returner


Starter: DeAndre Carter

Depth: Adderley, Taylor, Rountree, Guyton, Reed, Bandy

Carter will be the kick and punt returner. He had a 101-yard kickoff return touchdown for Washington last season. Taylor, a high school sprinter who ran a 4.46 40 at his pro day, has some return juice.

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[ChargersPowderBlue]

RB -3 looks like a possible shit show. Nothing to get excited about.

Compare ours to the Browns of Chubb, Hunt , D. Johnson and they drafted Ford.

Maybe one of those guys steps up but don't look like a very good group.
Man really wish JJ wasn't such a China doll but he is and doubt he comes back.

Let's give Joe Reed a look at RB.

Larry Rountree isn't that bad. I thought he was good early on. But then that was the same with Joshua Kelley. It is a what have you done for me lately business. People are fickle.

[Boltjolt]

Larry Rountree isn't that bad. I thought he was good early on. But then that was the same with Joshua Kelley. It is a what have you done for me lately business. People are fickle.

I wasn't a fan of Roundtree in college. I think he averages 2.4 YPC last season. I always give guys time and he has 2 More to show but just saying our RB depth isn't looking that good.