Originally posted by SuperCharged
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Welcome Zander Horvath, FB, Purdue (R7, #260)
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“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
He is a LOT faster than Gabe. He looks stronger, runs a lot better, definitely has much better hands, I do not see one thing he won’t be better at. Gabe is no all-world blocker, lets not exaggerate to the point we all start laughing
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Originally posted by blueman View Post
Just gotta hate on a player, don’tcha?
(edit) BTW - I tend to exaggerate the greatness of Charger rookies before reality exposes truth on an actual field. I’m a glass half full guy, I predict positive outcomes when its unknown because life is a happier trip around the sun if we program that future events to be positive. Reality will arrive soon enough, there’s no need to live negative events in advance.
Again - its love. Horvath is not the Galloping Ghost. He’s likely not John Riggins. We’ll just have to see what he’s got. But he is definitely faster. He’ll have to show he can play ST to make the team imo.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by Fleet 1 View Post
When i brought up those 2 players i was thinking goal line carries and sneaky plays in the pass game. Ive seen Kyle have some decent impacts on the passing game with the niners. Horvath had a decent amount of catches for the type of guy he is. I just dont get the feeling that he is a RB at the next level. Who knows. But i think hes more than a blocking FB. I feel like they might like the potemtial to do some of the things Kuhn and Kyle did. From a making plays pov.
Your last 2 sentences are exactly what im thinking.
I don't think Kyle is a great receiver. he is a good receiver, but the 49ers/packers scheme gives them opportunities other teams don't have. I think Horvath could be even better, because he is a bit bigger, and faster than Kyle and Kuhn (not bigger than Kuhn, but close).
I also like the fact that with 2 RB in the backfield, it gives the blockers a lot of extra chances to help out or to do blitz adjustments. IF a D is putting a ton of money or really high draft picks into their DE, and we can use the FB to neutralize them, that is a big win in terms of how we use our capital (assets) to beat their capital.
I do think Nabers still has a chance to be a FB/TE for us. He is NOT going to be a Kyle/Kuhn type of guy, so not a guy who gets a lot of touches. He isn't that good at hitting a moving target on the perimeter (off tackle or outside). But if he can show some ability as a goalline-short-yardage guy, that is still a big thing for a team that is showing the tendency to play a lot of extra situational stuff for those downs. Give him a shot as an H-back guy maybe we ask to add some weight and then be that FB to blast the MLB out of the hole on the iso-lead. So we have a package in short-yardage with Horvath at RB and Nabers at FB. It doesn't prevent us from using Horvath in there at FB sometimes with Ekeler and Spiller, it just gives us more packages and gets in the other team's heads about what we want to do. A lot of teams still think when you play 3 TE and FB, it is a heavy jumbo, but a Parham, McKitty, Everette TE group with a Nabers Horvath backfield still has some pass-catching ability, or it does if we can get Nabers to develop.
Normally it is a little late in his career for a late change of pace thing with Nabers, but he is Herbert's best friend, so I think they can do some extra work on the side. He won't be a great player, but I think he can be a decent 3rd/4th TE and 2nd FB type on a roster that you probably don't want to be getting rid of one of our better ST guys. The odds are low, but there is a chance.
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Originally posted by 21&500 View PostNorv was trying to do this with Jacob Hester
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Horvath is not going to be exactly what we want at RB (probably), but we should probably let him get some work there and as an H-back while he learns to play FB. Keep Nabers, who is passable at FB to hold down the fort for now (and he learns to be an iso-FB and H-back-blocker). And then the team has to not only give them a chance in the regular season. But we have a LOT more of those chances than most teams do. We have something like 50% more 4th downs in short-yardage because of how often we go for it. An extra 50% in goalline situations. We won't use them in all of those extra plays, but we will in some, and if there is any success, it gives Nabers and Horvath a chance to build on and get some confidence. And I think that is half the battle.
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Originally posted by AK47 View Post
Justin Herbert has a 97.8 passer rating on 4th downs. In 4th and short yardage situations it would be nice to have a hammer to compliment Eckler.Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
The Wasted Decade is done.
Build Back Better.
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