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I see it more like a sign from God... like The Bears Super Bowl Shuffle...
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Originally posted by Budsman View Post
Can we have both?Last edited by Velo; 05-16-2022, 12:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Xenos View PostI let it go previously when you thought anime and cartoons were the same thing. But now deliberately misspelling anime is just disrespectful.Anime and cartoons are the same thing, and here's why:No matter how you look at it, an anime is a cartoon. The main difference is that an anime is considered a Japanese style of cartoons in the West. Many English-language dictionaries define anime as "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation" or as "a style of animation developed in Japan."
That’s it, Japanese cartoons/animations are called Animes.
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Originally posted by Velo View Post
Again, you couldn't be more wrong. Here is a story from February in the Las Vegas newspaper that will help you understand why the Raiders, who played in LA until '94, remain popular in Los Angeles. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...-town-2528596/
Mark Davis understands why the Raiders still have a fan base in LA, and that is why he was rooting for the Bengals to win.
In the '80s, the Raiders has a gangsta persona, under Al Davis, it's one reason why Marty Schottenheimer didn't like the Raiders or Al Davis, which fueled his motivation to beat them - Raiders week. The Raiders' gangsta persona cemented itself with a certain type of fan in L.A. that has carried over from previous generations.
This is what I'm talking about. No silly amine marketing gimmick is going impress a single football fan in LA.
Again, everything hinges on just one thing:
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I'd like to see more discussion about the video itself, to bring this discussion back on topic.
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Originally posted by Scott Green View Post
Their Super Bowl win was 38 years ago. No one under 45 years old saw it. Probably no one under 50 remembers it. Kids don't buy Raider gear for some ancient history.They buy it because its marketed as cool and rebellious and because their favorite pop rap acts wear it. Its marketing because 50 year olds are not the market gear is aimed at. If winning was the only effective marketing there would be no Raider gear because the have not won anything in over four decades and don't even play in LA and have not for 30 years.
You can’t just wipe away 1982-94, the Super Bowl victory and the cultural connection born from those years when the Raiders made the Los Angeles Coliseum home. The history is too profound.“We are the first and still right now the only team from Los Angeles to win a Super Bowl,” said Raiders owner Mark Davis.The story has never wavered, how the Raiders moving to Los Angeles in the early ’80s crossed into a hip hop and gangsta rap generation which took hold of everything about the team. Its colors. Its logo. Its bad boy persona.My generation — those in their 40s and 50s — will always stick with the Raiders.” Soto said. “I do think the Rams are beginning to draw some of the millennials. Everything goes through stages.Nobody talks much about the Chargers here. A mere bug on the proverbial windshield.Winning is the best tonic for any sort of apathy.
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Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
This is just ignorant and wrong. Your not a child how can you have such a simplistic world view?
winning actually doesn’t matter as much as you think, winning would not have kept the team in San Diego for instance, it was the reality of the Public over all attitude toward contributing public money to subsidize the NFL in the region. It was the opinion of non fans that got the team to move. Non fans don’t care if the team wins.
the marketing got plenty of non fans interested in football and the chargers and you looked you would see many many posts on the videos thread of people declarining it turned them in to Chargers fans.
you can win the Super Bowl and have to fold as a franchise the next season.
winning is all that matters to you in your very narrow idea of fandom. But getting upset at non football team employees doing a good job is dumb and not understanding the team needs to market themselves is ridiculous for anyone over 8 years old.
There are only two things that will make LA fans even notice the Chargers exist: 1. Winning. 2. Justin Herbert - and only if he is winning.
You should read this story, because it is reality. And the only thing that is going to change this reality is winning. Not marketing. Not social media. Not amine. Winning.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/08/los-angeles-chargers-popularity-san-diego-nfl-footballDean Spanos made a mistake uprooting his team from San Diego, where he had a chance to make the Bolts a truly international franchise
If there’s anything LA respects, it’s a winner. So it figures that now that the Rams are playing in their second Super Bowl in three years, and on their home field to boot, the Chargers barely register. In a recent survey designed to weed out the “saddest” NFL fans, or those “most emotionally upset” by wins and losses, the Chargers ranked dead last – which provides some sense of the depth of apathy here. Attendance is another quality indicator, and before the move to SoFi – again, the Rams’ house – the Chargers came in dead last through the turnstiles, too.
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Oooh, I l know the answer to this one:
"No it isn't!"
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Originally posted by Velo View PostYou couldn’t be more wrong mate. The Raiders won the only Super Bowl for Los Angeles (until a few months ago.) That is why they have remained popular in L.A. Marketing int the NFL is mostly bullshit. Winning is the only effective marketing ploy in the NFL.
Their Super Bowl win was 38 years ago. No one under 45 years old saw it. Probably no one under 50 remembers it. Kids don't buy Raider gear for some ancient history.They buy it because its marketed as cool and rebellious and because their favorite pop rap acts wear it. Its marketing because 50 year olds are not the market gear is aimed at. If winning was the only effective marketing there would be no Raider gear because the have not won anything in over four decades and don't even play in LA and have not for 30 years.
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