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  • sonorajim
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    Tranquill ran a 4.57 according to nflcombineresults.com"
    . Makes more sense, he sure don't look like a 4.4 out there. That's Mike Vick speed.

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    Effin google.https://www.google.com/search?client...nquill+40+time

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    • chargeroo
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      Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

      Tranquill 4.4 40 (converted S)
      Murray 4.52 40
      Mirray is stronger and @ 10 lbs heavier.
      If Tranquill can run a 4:40 we should make him our new Fullback!
      THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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      • Boltjolt
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        Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
        Ha, when you click on that link, the two links under the results show his combine numbers of 4.57.
        That top one if you read it actually is Tranquill talking about Murray being a 4.4 guy but we know he isn't either.

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        • sonorajim
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          LOL! I stand corrected.
          Tranq 4.57
          K9 4.52 https://www.nfl.com/videos/kenneth-m...d-40-yard-dash

          They're pretty close but Murray is officially 0.05 faster in the 40.

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          • sonorajim
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            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            Ha, the two links under that (when you click on it) show his combine numbers of 4.57.
            That top one if you read it actually is Tranquill talking about Murray being a 4.4 guy but we know he isn't either.
            It was a trap!

            bastages.

            ps: I didn't think about it because Tranq is really sudden when he blitzes.

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            • blueman
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              And none of it is current.

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              • dmac_bolt
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                Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                Tranquill 4.4 40 (converted S)
                Murray 4.52 40
                Mirray is stronger and @ 10 lbs heavier.
                NFL.com has him at 4.57. He didn’t play S, he had sort of a hybrid LB role at ND. and he doesn’t look 4.4 to me … he’s fast enough for LB though because he reacts well/fast. i think he’s a baller - losing him Gm1 last year hurt the defense a lot imo. I look forward to seeing him back.

                All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Drue Tranquill
                “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                • Steve
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                  Murray can flip his hips and runs well in man coverage. He doesn't have to read and react, so he is pretty good at it. He also has the speed and quickness to be an asset coming off the edge. But he has been terrible in zone coverage and reading and reacting as a stack LB. He just doesn't react quickly or instinctively. Maybe he can overcome it through film study and better knowledge of the D. He was getting better reading and reacting over the course of his rookie season with Gus, but Staley's D is much more complicated and asks the players to do a lot more reading, where what their assignment is can vary depending on what they see. It is tough on a player like Murray who was not asked to do much of that in college or his rookie year (simple reads in Gus' D).

                  Tranquill was recruited to play S, but his playing time was a sort of a hybrid S/LB at ND. He is a much better zone player because he sees the field, and reacts better to what is going on around him. He doesn't flip his hips and can't run with RB and TE as well as Murray can. But he does time his blitzes well and can be used on a lot of inside pressure packages. But while his speed is listed as being about the same, he doesn't play as fast as Murray does. Of course, he doesn't run himself out or overrun as many plays as Murray either.

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                  • cmplxgal
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                    2022 Chargers training camp, preseason awards: MVPs, positive surprise, and more




                    Gavino Borquez
                    August 28, 2022 9:25 pm PT

                    The Chargers are done with training camp and the preseason, and they will now finalize their 53-man roster by 1 pm PT on Tuesday.

                    With that, it’s a good time to hand out some awards.

                    I cover different bases, from the best offensive and defensive players to the biggest disappointments.

                    The envelopes, please…

                    Offensive MVP: WR Michael Bandy

                    This was a toss-up between Bandy and Josh Palmer. Bandy brought a new storyline of why the Chargers should keep six wide receivers. He was beyond impressive in what he showed under the lights, running silky smooth routes to get open and hauling in everything thrown his direction. Bandy finished the preseason with an eye-popping stat line of 18 receptions on 23 targets for 172 yards and two touchdowns. If Bandy clears waivers, I expect Los Angeles to sign him to the practice squad. But the chances of that happening are slim with the tape he put out.

                    Defensive MVP: EDGE Chris Rumph

                    One of the storylines of the summer was Rumph’s added weight and strength after boasting a lean and lanky frame during his rookie campaign. That translated to the playing field. On top of his athleticism, more power popped in Rumph’s pass rushes and when setting the edge against the run. He showed that he will be a reliable rotational edge rusher behind Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack in 2022.

                    Best comeback: CB Michael Davis

                    Heading into the 2021 season as the team’s top corner, it was presumed that Davis’ versatility in coverage, length, and athleticism would make him an excellent fit for Brandon Staley’s scheme. However, that did not come to fruition. Davis struggled to grasp the complexities of Staley’s coverage systems, and he dealt with a hamstring issue midway through the season that kept him out for a few games. Fast forward, Davis entered this summer as the fourth cornerback on the depth chart following the offseason additions of J.C. Jackson and Bryce Callahan. But as the saying goes, no pressure, no diamonds. That is what Davis lived by, as he responded to all the added competition with an excellent product on the field. He looked sticky in coverage, got his hands on the football, and more efficient as a tackler. If Jackson is out for the first and even the second game of the season, Davis will start on the outside opposite Asante Samuel Jr. However, he earned the billing as CB2 when Jackson returns.

                    Positive surprise: RB Joshua Kelley

                    Before the start of camp, rookie Isaiah Spiller was being deemed the second running back. However, out of left field, Kelley was the one who raised eyebrows in the position group and ultimately won the job to start the season. After taking on a detailed off-season training and nutrition regimen, Kelley looked like an enhanced player. Kelley was more physical, elusive, and decisive as a runner, breaking through tackles and making defenders miss. In the passing game, he caught the ball well and improved in pass protection, an area Kelley struggled with early on in his career. He finished the preseason with 16 carries for 74 yards (4.6 yards per carry).

                    Most impressive: DT Breiden Fehoko

                    One of the better run defenders from last year’s team, Fehoko made plenty of strides this summer. Building on his strong 2021 campaign, Fehoko racked up tackles for losses, split double teams, and made life for second and third-team offensive lines difficult. However, he looked more technically refined as a pass rusher in one on ones and in preseason action, especially against the Saints. Assuming he makes the initial 53-man roster, Fehoko will provide reliable depth from the jump.

                    Most valuable newcomer: EDGE Khalil Mack

                    Mack was, as advertised, a game-changer on the edge. After suffering a foot injury last season, Mack looked completely healthy – gave fits as a pass rusher, and was stout against the run. While he may not return to his Defensive Player of the Year-caliber of play this season, Mack, opposite Joey Bosa, will still present a player capable of boosting a group that ranked 25th in pressure rate and 28th in run defense in 2021.

                    Biggest disappointment: Mark Webb's injury

                    Webb was making noise early on in camp, working with the first team defense as the “money” (hybrid safety-linebacker), a reserved role for Derwin James, who sat out while the team negotiated his contract extension. Webb also trained at traditional safety and “star” (nickel cornerback). However, that was short-lived as he had a soft-tissue injury to his calf. This all came after he missed time in training camp last summer with a hamstring injury. Webb then only played in seven regular season games before landing on injured reserve after knee surgery. This is unfortunate for someone who was believed to be a reliable depth piece across multiple positions in the secondary early on this season.

                    Biggest rookie surprise: CB Ja'Sir Taylor

                    Entering camp, Taylor was far from guaranteed a roster spot. But by the end of it, he not only earned one, but he was the fifth-best cornerback. Primarily working in the slot, Taylor showed the quick twitch and reactive athleticism to make plays in coverage and high effort in run support. He also played gunner with the punt team really well. The coaching staff had high praise for Taylor.

                    Biggest rookie disappointment: S JT Woods

                    This isn’t saying that Woods is a bad player by any means. However, being a third-round pick and envisioned as the second safety next to Nasir Adderley in dime packages, expectations will be slightly higher. Unfortunately, he struggled to live up to the billing. Even though he flashed solid diagnosis skills and range, Woods’ tackling was a major issue. In three preseason games, Woods missed four tackles. The physical tools are there, but tackling is something he will need to improve to make it in this league.

                    53-man puzzle: EDGE Jamal Davis

                    With Kyle Van Noy set to start at inside linebacker alongside Drue Tranquill, the question that now lingers is whether the Chargers will roster four edge defenders. If so, Davis made a solid case to fill that gap. While unrefined at rushing the passer, Davis showed plenty of juice, power and the use of length to be disruptive, finishing with eight pressure in three games. He was also stout at setting edges and played with a high effort to make plays in the run game.

                    Reason for hope: OT Trey Pipkins

                    I said it before the summer, but I believed that Pipkins had the leg up for the starting right tackle job over Storm Norton. Pipkins played well in his only two starts in 2021 and spent this offseason working with highly touted offensive line developer Duke Manyweather. He carried that over to the summer. Pipkins showed consistency in pass protection, allowing just one pressure in the three preseason games and faring well against Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack. In addition, he looked good as a run blocker, moving to the second level and getting out in space. A position that was a glaring problem last season, we will see if Pipkins can put the bandaid over it.

                    Best quote: Brandon Staley heaps high praise on Derwin James

                    “I don’t look at Derwin as a safety. I look at Derwin as an impact player. I think if you were just looking at him as a safety, that wouldn’t be doing Derwin justice,” Staley said, via The Athletic’s Daniel Popper. “For me, I look at him as a defensive back. When I see him, I’m like, that’s a defensive back, because he can play anywhere. He can play either safety spot. He can play corner. He can play Star or Money. He can rush the quarterback and make an impact as a blitzer. He can make an impact in man-to-man coverage. And then he can make an impact in zone defense, whether he’s playing low or high. And he’s our signal-caller and the heartbeat of our defense.”


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