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  • jamrock
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    • Sep 2017
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    Originally posted by ghost View Post

    If your plan is to cut the 27 year old and keep the 31 year old, whatever game this is we are playing - that I don't understand - I accuse you of acting nonsensical and shitting in the penalty box.



    Clearly, you MISSED these pressure numbers.
    Let’s see 2022 pressure numbers.

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    • Boltnut
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      Originally posted by ghost View Post



      I'm looking at the prior 20 picks trying to see which OT of Broderick Jones or Paris Johnson Jr. fall through the cracks into the Chargers laps at #21. The teams that I feel will take a OT are New England and Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh instead goes CB, that changes the math.

      Washington goes OG in O'Cyrus Torrence. I used Lance Zierlein's mock as a base of reference, as it is the best.

      Nothing helps Justin Herbert more than an effective run game.
      In mocks, sometimes I get Broderick Jones... others, I get Darnell Wright.
      Tennessee 1st in scoring (46.1)
      Georgia 4th in scoring (41.1)

      I like offenses that score. Typically, they're good.

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      • Boltnut
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        Originally posted by jamrock View Post

        Let’s see 2022 pressure numbers.
        I think those all belong to the SB losers... who got zero sacks in the SB...

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        • electricgold
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          Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
          So to recap:
          Bosa #3 in pressures last 5 years
          Keenan #4 in receptions last 5 years
          Mack #5 in pressures last 5 years

          ...and we should can them for rookies that will give us half the production... even though we could afford to keep them...?

          LOL! Carry on, boys.
          I would say probably keep Bosa but if he has another season where he misses half the games, yes peace out. Mack is now going to be 32, unless you draft a edge with the 21 pick keep him, but he is entering the time where he will probably never be playing like he was 5 years ago, but perhaps in stretches, so what he did 5 years ago is irrelevant, in regard to Keenan he is going to be 31 so probably it would be best to cut him, he could have a good season next year but odds are his better days are over. If you are going to replace any of these 3 it would have to be probably be a 1st or 2nd round pick at best maybe a 3rd round WR for Keenan he was drafted in the 3rd round and his rookie season he put up over a 1000 yards and had around 8 TDS so its not unheard of. A free agent like Fox or similar could make us better and also could be an option as opposed to just rookies.

          They way you are posting this you are acting like we just won the superbowl with these players? Again what Mack and Allen did 5 years ago means nothing even 2 years ago. The NFL is a season by season thing anyway and should be regarded season by season.

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          • Boltnut
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            ...and gave up 38 points.

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            • ghost
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              Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
              So to recap:
              Bosa #3 in pressures last 5 years
              Keenan #4 in receptions last 5 years
              Mack #5 in pressures last 5 years

              ...and we should can them for rookies that will give us half the production... even though we could afford to keep them...?

              LOL! Carry on, boys.
              There are people that want to keep Bosa and Mack and cut Keenan. I'm one. I think Mack has one, two seasons left, tops. Bosa, three. But I am not kicking the can down the road on Keenan's contract, one in which his 2022 performance does not warrant his 2023 contract. Raiders had Derek Carr's contract price himself out of the Raider organization and now Keenan has done the same in Los Angeles, I see Raider fans being far more accepting and pragmatic of losing Carr than the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments of Charger fans over Keenan Allen.

              Happened to LT. Happened to Rivers. Now, Allen. Father Time is undefeated.

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              • Boltnut
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                Alright... I'm just gonna leave this here... in case everyone forgot.
                Replace KA, MW, JB, and KM with WR or DE after the 21st pick...
                Get pick by pick results from each round of the 2022 NFL Draft with Draftcast on ESPN

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                • ghost
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                  Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                  Let’s see 2022 pressure numbers.
                  I'm not sure I follow your logic. Bosa tore the muscle loose from the bone in the groin area in Week Three and returned in time for playoffs and Joey said he played the Jacksonville game on one leg, and you'd like to see his pressure stats. Go look them up and come back and share with us what insight you gleaned into that.

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                  • jamrock
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                    Originally posted by ghost View Post

                    I'm not sure I follow your logic. Bosa tore the muscle loose from the bone in the groin area in Week Three and returned in time for playoffs and Joey said he played the Jacksonville game on one leg, and you'd like to see his pressure stats. Go look them up and come back and share with us what insight you gleaned into that.
                    I’ll just say it. The past doesn’t matter. We didn’t get our money worth in 2022.

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                    • ghost
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                      Edge Rusher

                      Total guaranteed money:



                      1. Joey Bosa, $102 million


                      Signed: July 2020 (contract ends in 2025)

                      2. Myles Garrett (CLE), $100 million
                      3. Khalil Mack (LAC), $90 million

                      Edge rusher

                      Highest three-year APY:

                      1. T.J. Watt, $30.5 million


                      Signed: September 2021 (contract ends in 2025)

                      2. Joey Bosa (LAC), $29.2 million


                      3. Myles Garrett (CLE), $26.7 million



                      Safety


                      Highest three-year APY:

                      1. Derwin James Jr., $19.6 million


                      Signed: August 2022 (contract ends in 2027)

                      2. Minkah Fitzpatrick (PIT), $18.6 million
                      3. Jamal Adams (SEA), $17.6 million

                      Total guaranteed money:

                      1. Derwin James Jr., $42 million


                      Signed: August 2022 (contract ends in 2027)

                      T2. Jamal Adams (SEA), $36 million
                      T2. Minkah Fitzpatrick (PIT), $36 million


                      https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...every-position

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                      • Boltnut
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                        Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
                        Alright... I'm just gonna leave this here... in case everyone forgot.
                        Replace KA, MW, JB, and KM with WR or DE after the 21st pick...
                        Get pick by pick results from each round of the 2022 NFL Draft with Draftcast on ESPN
                        And while you guys are replacing Keenan with Skyy Moore... or Khalil Mack with Logan Hall...
                        I'll just stick with my 2 original picks (before the JCJ signing)... Trent McDuffie and Abraham Lucas...

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                        • Boltnut
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                          Keep KA at least 1 more year. Re-structure MW.
                          Keep Mack at least 1 more year. Re-structure Bosa.

                          It makes no sense to sell Pro Bowl players low...
                          Keep them. Build your team. Win a Super Bowl.

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