2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

[Fouts2herbert]

They have to do something about the run D. It was lousy in 2021 so maybe new scheme not fitting players. So in 2022 they brought in new players and it was still lousy though some got hurt.

So either the players or the scheme or both are still lousy. This year we haven't done a thing to fix it. If they use the #1 pick on a DL it may not get any better right away either.

So looks like we are heading into 2023 doing the same thing again and expecting a different result.

I’ll throw a third element into the mix here, yes Staley’s scheme is definitely part the issue, yes some of our guys like K9, tillery, and some secondary guys have been slow to either understand or accept their roles against the run…but my third element is that I’ve come to question Staley’s personnel decisions with weekly roster management as well, going into games with only 5 IDL, then only dressing 4-5 even when he had 6 on the roster, his IDL rotation decisions have been questionable in my book…runs a bend don’t break scheme then shorthands the guys in the interior forcing them to play excessive amounts of snaps, while having extra DBs dress that don’t get used much…

IMO, one of the areas Staley has shown his inexperience the most is how he puts the roster together week to week, AND he’s not shown a willingness to grow and learn in this area…almost like in denial that certain players are no longer on the board and failing to anticipate how the remaining will be affected (tired out) by being stretched so thin, which also exposes them to more injuries…

[Fouts2herbert]

Tranquill ended up being better than I anticipated. Having said that, he was not very good vs the run. That's why we brought in Eric Kendricks. His read/react skills are better than Tranquill's. IMO, LB is still on the draft radar. With the K9 contract up at the end of the season, we should be looking for an off-ball LB that can cover RB's and TE's well. If we find a guy that can blitz on occasion... we will have addressed our needs.

DeMarvion Overshown (3rd round)
Owen Pappoe (4th round)
Dee Winters (5th round)

IMO, neither white nor tranquil were good run defenders, this team really missed perriman against the run but he wasn’t good in coveage, LOL yes, LB has been a weakspot on this defense, but I don’t think this draft offers much in the way of a solution unless they uncover some kind of hidden gem…I wouldn’t draft any LBs early in this draft….a lot of these converted safety types are going to struggle against the run…teams are only paying guys that excel in BOTH areas…

[Fouts2herbert]

Philly has Nakobe Dean ready to take Kyzirs spot so they could afford to let him walk.

Also the former DC in phily took kyzir to arizona with him now that he’s the HC there…

[Fouts2herbert]

Yeah, K9's 5th-year option would be vastly over-paying for his production... in a year (2024) where they will be shedding contracts to help pay for Herbie's extension. It baffles me that so-called experts know so little about the Chargers' actual issues. I don't have have a Twitter account... largely because I can get better informed takes here @TBP.

I think I read somewhere that they’re not going to pick up K9’s option…

[Fouts2herbert]

True, dont think id take Tylers word for it. Ive read different from better sources and he IMO is a nobody.

He’s been fed some unbelievable bullshit in the past, I can’t recall now but he had to backtrack on something huge last year…I think he claimed to have inside info on a signing that never materialized or something like that…can’t recall now…

[Fouts2herbert]

JK Scott is a completely average P, other noted many pages ago his great YAK was because he punted short and high. Net yards was middle of league. Thats safe, it’s not game changing but a huge improvement over the 20921 disaster that was (notfor)Long(inthisleague).

I’d like to see them bring in P competition to TC and would be surprised if they don’t. Just because he’s not the complete clusterfuck that Long was doesnt mean they need to stand pat without trying to further improve on #17 or #18 or whatever they were.

Where is PuntGod - he was cleared (criminally) … I’ve never seen the evidence but it sounded to me that perhaps the alleged victim didnt have a compelling case against him. Allegedly the DA’s office was able to see a tape that destroyed her claim against him but that could be his PR machine, i don’t know. He changed so many games at SDSU he was MVP one year. He’s a great emergency PK too, he did all the PK at SDSU, not a great average but 1000x better than anyone else on the roster if Dicker got hurt.

Scott got 4mil over 2 years, I’m thinking they aren’t even looking at anyone else with the money they’re paying him…also the STs coach that fixed STs for us loves the guy…

[Fouts2herbert]

Works for me. Been a Chargers fan far too long to expect no OL injuries or breakdowns, or expect the top WRs to play together all season long. So, a big back, really helps.

Charbonet is a beast, he’s a punishing runner that gets stronger and stronger as the game progresses…he can also catch the shit outta the ball…

[Fouts2herbert]

Cooper Rush went back to the Cowboys unfortunately for 2 years, 5 mil.

I have to believe we are going to draft a QB later in this draft but Stick as the backup is a white flag flapping in the breeze if Herbert gets injured and cant play.

There really arent any vet QBs remaining id care for , unless you like Bridgewater or Rudolph, or Gabbert.

Dont want Wentz as he will cost a bit and NO to Matt Ryan....who also may cost a bit. If they didnt want to pay Rush, they wont pay Ryan or Wentz.

Who would you go for day three? I don’t know if they’ll make it to late day three but I think haener and bennett have back up QB potential…

[Topcat]

I think I read somewhere that they’re not going to pick up K9’s option…

And rightfully so...K9 is the Tillery of LB's...so much promise, so little ROI...

[Topcat]

Who would you go for day three? I don’t know if they’ll make it to late day three but I think haener and bennett have back up QB potential…

Haener would be an upgrade over Stick...and since Jake played at Fresno State, he'd probably like to stay in Cali...

[Bolt4Knob]

And rightfully so...K9 is the Tillery of LB's...so much promise, so little ROI...

I am still hoping the Texans want to take a flier on the hometown kid for a future 7th round pick

[Boltnut]

IMO, neither white nor tranquil were good run defenders, this team really missed perriman against the run but he wasn’t good in coveage, LOL yes, LB has been a weakspot on this defense, but I don’t think this draft offers much in the way of a solution unless they uncover some kind of hidden gem…I wouldn’t draft any LBs early in this draft….a lot of these converted safety types are going to struggle against the run…teams are only paying guys that excel in BOTH areas…

I don't think so either. The one true run stopper is Campbell... and 2nd round is too much capital for me. I think Telesco sees it this way too. That's why he got Kendricks in FA... he's better vs the run and is pretty good in coverage.

The draft is loaded with off-ball LB's. IMO, 3rd-5th rounds are the sweet spot.
With college offenses constructed such as they are (more spread) the college defenses are constructed to stop them.
You'll find lots of LB's in college that started their careers as safeties.

Daiyan Henly and DeMarvion Overshown are 2 of my favorite LB's in the draft... both played safety before settling at LB. Henley actually played a little of everything.
Both read and react very well. I think this was what Tranquill lacked.
Are they going to shed OG's...? No. But in Staley's scheme, the DL are supposed to engage OG's long enough for LB's to beat them to a spot (assignments/gaps). The LB's weren't reading/reacting and playing assignments quickly enough... that's why Tranquill is gone... that's why the LB coach is gone. If you don't fit/play Staley's scheme well... you're gone.
Staley was handed a bunch of Gusly defenders. Last off-season, we saw personnel changes. This off-season, we'll see some more.
It's almost there.