2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

[dmac_bolt]

Danario Alexander could have torn an ACL sneezing.

Keenan Allen tore an ACL making a cut on a route, no contact.

The non-contact tear is generally cleaner, and has less associated collateral damage, so the healing process is less complicated.

When a player gets hit in a way that rips various surrounding knee structures? *That* is when healing is most complicated and least predictable.

Hi there Quack and Jolt. Fun anecdotes but that doesn’t answer any clinical scientific question. Listing a half-dozen names doesn’t get us anywhere. So I went and looked myself for an actual meaningful answer, interesting to learn my hunch was incorrect:

The ACL can tear with both contact and noncontact maneuvers. Approximately 70 percent of injuries are noncontact and occur when the athlete is trying to change directions, slow down or land from a jump

[dmac_bolt]

It's PFF and I don't like them but many here think they are king so here ya go. They have Derwin #1.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-safety-...023-nfl-season

Lol - wasn’t PFF one of the early “ranking” sources to kick start the anti-Derwin crowd?

James is the league’s most dynamic playmaker at safety. There isn’t a better combination of run defense (75.3 grade), coverage (74.5) and pass rush (90.9). His 77.6 overall grade ranked 13th among all qualified safeties in 2022. He racked up two interceptions, two forced fumbles and four sacks. On any given day, the soon-to-be 27-year-old has the ability to be the best safety in football. If he has another performance similar to his rookie year (87.8 overall grade), he’ll be in the Defensive Player of the Year conversation.

[Boltjolt]

Hi there Quack and Jolt. Fun anecdotes but that doesn’t answer any clinical scientific question. Listing a half-dozen names doesn’t get us anywhere. So I went and looked myself for an actual meaningful answer, interesting to learn my hunch was incorrect:

I knew it was higher, I just went off the top of my head and didn't research it. Seen many non contact knee injuries. Most on turf.

[richpjr]

Lol - wasn’t PFF one of the early “ranking” sources to kick start the anti-Derwin crowd?

I gotta admit I chuckled when reading the rankings as PFF was put up as some kind of gold standard for judging players, yet somehow James is ranked ahead of Fitzpatrick.

[dmac_bolt]

I knew it was higher, I just went off the top of my head and didn't research it. Seen many non contact knee injuries. Most on turf.

you were right all along, good one BJ!

[Velo]

The thing about Dalvin Cook, if he were to become a Bolt, is that he could have his carries cut in half. He would be more effective and it would extend his career probably. He was the Vikes' bread and butter in the run game during his career there, in addition to catching 30-40 passes per season. But that would mean accepting a salary commensurate with being a part-time player and I don't know if this is what he's looking for.

[Maniaque 6]

It's PFF and I don't like them but many here think they are king so here ya go. They have Derwin #1.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-safety-...023-nfl-season

Is it really 2023 ?
Athlon sports had a similar list in 2022.

[dmac_bolt]

Is it really 2023 ?
Athlon sports had a similar list in 2022.

Derwin has always been the #1 Safety. you can disregard all erroneous publications to the contrary

[chargeroo]

I saw Derwin has a high opinion of JT Woods. He thinks Woods is gonna surprise people! Hope he's right and not just blowing smoke.

[Boltjolt]

I saw Derwin has a high opinion of JT Woods. He thinks Woods is gonna surprise people! Hope he's right and not just blowing smoke.

That would explain no movement there at FS. All Woods has to do is improve his tackling from awful to average.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

I saw Derwin has a high opinion of JT Woods. He thinks Woods is gonna surprise people! Hope he's right and not just blowing smoke.

When I read words like those that Derwin had for J.T. Woods, I always find myself saying the same thing: "What else is he going to say?"

He's surely *not* going to say "My man needs to increase his focus and work harder, or else he's going to squander a golden opportunity, and regret it for the rest of his life!", even if that's exactly how he sees the situation.

Derwin was likely asked by a journalist how he sees Woods coming along, and again-- what is Derwin really free to say?

On the other hand, if Derwin interrupted a line of questioning from his interviewer and said, "Enough about me. You know who's going to surprise you, big-time, this year? J.T. Woods", that would be different because Derwin initiated the comment, vs. having it inquired of him.

Journalists ask waaaaaaaaay too many vapid questions that fail to generate thoughtful, insightful responses from the players they're interviewing. As a consequence, we get far too much in the way of meaningless sports reporting, or 'blather', as I refer to it.

[sonorajim]

That would explain no movement there at FS. All Woods has to do is improve his tackling from awful to average.

Davis, Woods, Ja, and Leonard all have 4.3 speed. Davis is a starter. Woods & JaSir have a good shot. It's nice to have.